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What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
I refer them to the writings of the ECF’s.What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
Well if thats all they say then you don’t say anything back… they can’t just make a wild claim and expect people to believe it…What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
you challenge them since they undoubtedly call themselves bible Christians, to actually crack open the book and read it, every word of the NT, particularly the Gospels and Acts, for the numerous references to Jesus Christ–who did found the Church–his apostles, and His Church.What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
I guess I would ask him what he means by that. What does he mean by started? The Church has constantly been evolving over the years, though the faith has remained unchanging.What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
Tell them they don’t know their history. Tell them the Truth. Say, "St Ignatius of Antioch, born in 50 A.D., taught by the Apostles St. Peter and St. John, Bishop of Antioch and the Martyr to be fed to the wild beasts in the Collesium, said ‘Whereever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church’ ".What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
hmmm! interesting… can you provide any information on this asseertion. writings, scripture, etc.The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
I tend to agree with this. But if you really want a response, you can refer them to Ignatius’ words someone else quoted here. I also like to expound on the development of the papacy. You can read St. Irenaeus’ *Against Heresies *(ca 170 AD) in which he expounded on apostolic succession, with “pre-eminent authority” at Rome. In other words, he pointed out that only the Catholic Church had valid apostolic succession. You could also point out the issues in which the Pope’s final word won the day with regard to Pope Victor’s call for Sunday worship (ca 190 AD) or Pope Stephen (ca. 256 AD), regarding so-called heretical baptism. Or you can look at the Church’s unanimous acceptance of infant baptism or the Real Presence in the Eucharist. So many ways can this be approached. It’s almost too easy.Well if thats all they say then you don’t say anything back… they can’t just make a wild claim and expect people to believe it…
The church was nothing but Essenic Jews?The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
I am confused. I do not udnerstand this comment. John the Baptist died before Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross (He died before the ministry of Christ, too). Therfore, John could not have preached a gospel since it had not occurred.The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
I think maybe he wrote this line to distract us from the real topic of this thread.I am confused. I do not udnerstand this comment. John the Baptist died before Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross (He died before the ministry of Christ, too). Therfore, John could not have preached a gospel since it had not occurred.
allischalmers - may you please explain what you wrote?
Thank you.
One says: “Prove it.”What does one say to protestants who keep insisting that the Catholic Church began at the time of Constatine?
Allischalmers is wrong.The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
John the Baptist never established a Church nor led one. He had been killed before Jesus established the Church on Peter.The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
If anyone believed that one, they would also believe that the Baptists became Presbyterian because of all the presbyters!The church before Constatine was Baptist lead by John the Baptist
I have not yet seen al chalmers carry on any real converstations. All I’ve seen is posting false one line preposterous claims with no basis whatsoever. Never answers questions about these false claims and is utterly unable to defend them.I guess Allischalmers is unable to defend his/her statement as he seems to have gone quiet!
I guess allischalmer was just fooling around, Oh what gullible people you are !I guess Allischalmers is unable to defend his/her statement as he/she seems to have gone quiet!