The Collapse of a Christian Pillar

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Once on the same side of fence there is no need to throw oranges back and forth.
 
Once on the same side of fence there is no need to throw oranges back and forth.
Are you calling for comprimise or what? Who do you think should comprimise? The one that uses reason or the one who believes the mother of Jesus came back to life from the grave to leave her footprint in a rock … and what for? Please tell me.
 
This kind of discussion may make us forget that all people are on the same side of fence, all of us want eternal life back and back on Garden of Eden. We need to speak with God to ask God , what should we do so that Creation will come back to a state without sin?
**Speak for yourself AdrianP. We don’t want what is against natural laws. There can’t be eternal life for those who have been born. Eternal life exists only in God. **
 
Ben Masada,

I can’t see what you are saying because I have never followed such thought, was never taught that in parochial school. St. Peter instituted the Church. He was an administrator and teacher. St. Paul was an evangelist who went out to the Gentile world.

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**You know how to read English and I am sure you have a Bible. So, you don’t need anything from parochial schools. Peter was a Nazarene Jew and not a Christian. Therefore, he never instituted the Church. You are being misled if you believe it so. The Church was instituted by Paul in Antioch about 30 years after Jesus had been gone. (Acts 11:26)

And regarding Paul as an evangelist who went out to the Gentile world, can you prove it? I would like to hear that. Why? Because from his first station in the synagogues of Damascus until his last station in Rome, he never left the Jews in peace. What Gentiles did he expect to evangelize in the synagogues of the Jews? It sounds a joke already.**
 
Ben Masada,

Following the foot prints of others, I must now end. You are not following the truth. Perhaps you are another Saul that some day…
 
**Speak for yourself AdrianP. We don’t want what is against natural laws. There can’t be eternal life for those who have been born. Eternal life exists only in God. **
This is what Ben said:
Eternal life exists only in God.

This is what GOD said:
" 54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

** 57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.** "

So God told us a way to live by him eternal life.b
 
I believe that by speaking with God we can receive a better fate .
That is what He gave the Jewish their Laws for. That is how one learns from the “mouth” of God and ultimately works toward a better life. He gave you life … the rest is up to you. 👍
 
The devil cannot take care of his own priests: “Once, St. Makarios was walking and saw a skull lying upon the ground. He asked, “Who are you?” The skull answered, “I was a chief priest of the pagans. When you, Abba, pray for those in hell, we receive some mitigation.” The monk asked, “What are these torments?” “We are sitting in a great fire,” replied the skull, “and we do not see one another. When you pray, we begin to see each other somewhat, and this affords us some comfort.””

So we need to find the path of God.

It is very important we speak with God so we find the right path and avoid traps . What happens is that traps does not carry a sign saying: I AM A TRAP. BE AWARE, A TRAP IS HERE. ON CONTRARY.

If we trust ONLY logic, the SICK angels can outsmart everybody.
 
If we trust ONLY logic, the SICK angels can outsmart everybody.
I for one am curious. What do you mean here? what else should we trust? our feelings? giggles I can admit to being in big trouble if I were to rely on my feelings; and not only me but perhaps those around me. But what are “sick angels?” I have not heard that before; from anyone until you.
 
If we don’t manage to speak with God and come back to the road God considers best, prophecies are not good so that even Word of God would have to come second time and fight people believing they can do everything.
Only God can do everything.
Sick angels = demons =angels of light that felt down.
 
**Speak for yourself AdrianP. We don’t want what is against natural laws. There can’t be eternal life for those who have been born. Eternal life exists only in God. **
And by being born a Jew you don’t get a spark of God’s life? Would someone not have to be in God to be rightfully called a son of God, which you say Israel (any son of Israel, that is) is? If you’re not of God’s family, why should you learn His ways and customs so as to adopt them as… your own?
 
I for one am curious. What do you mean here? what else should we trust? our feelings? giggles I can admit to being in big trouble if I were to rely on my feelings; and not only me but perhaps those around me. But what are “sick angels?” I have not heard that before; from anyone until you.
I think he meant that, as much as only feelings is not enough, only reason is not enough either…
 
This is what Ben said:
Eternal life exists only in God.

This is what GOD said:
" 54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

** 57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.** "

So God told us a way to live by him eternal life.b
Adrian, God does not have flesh or blood. God is Incorporeal. Pure Spirit. Do you understand what I mean? No wonder Jesus said that Gentiles do not understand what they worship, while we Jews worship what we understand. (John 4:23,24)
 
Well Ben, lets understand our limitations and understand that we understand what God reveals to us + our errors.I would say Orthodox Christianity has more knowledge because there are people in Orthodox Christianity speaking with God.

However in meantime I would advise you to write the story here forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=5822699#post5822699 This is a Gift from Word of God to people seeking salvation in honor of James the Carpenter.

Actually the story is like this. I did pray to God seeking an easier salvation path and I had a tought saying: By eating a fruit people has fallen and by eating another fruit, the fruit of the womb of Virgin Mary, people receive back salvation and Eternal life.

I continued praying for an easier salvation path and I did get this book. Under point 26 it was saying that everybody wanting his or her book of sins to be erased need to write this story. So, I would like to continue debating in Heaven. Take this message as a gift for you. Time will come when doing this will be more valuable than a Mountain of Gold on Earth because in Other World things on Earth would probably be untouchable.

If anyone wants to write this story and get saved please do so.
 
Adrian, God does not have flesh or blood. God is Incorporeal. Pure Spirit. Do you understand what I mean? No wonder Jesus said that Gentiles do not understand what they worship, while we Jews worship what we understand. (John 4:23,24)
Ben Masada, what about the human soul? Isn’t the human soul also spirit even though linked to the human material body? Or does Judaism not believe that God created man as a unique being who is a part of both the spiritual reality and the material reality?
 
Adrian, God does not have flesh or blood. God is Incorporeal. Pure Spirit. Do you understand what I mean? No wonder Jesus said that Gentiles do not understand what they worship, while we Jews worship what we understand. (John 4:23,24)
I thought it was “whom”, not “what”… also…are you sure you really do “know” the God you worship?
 
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