The Dance of the Eucharist

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I am curious about your reasoning. I agree God is not a mere ‘object’. But then a king carried around is not a mere object either.

Is it that you think there is no possiblity of sacred dance in Western culture, even if it is outside of a liturgy?

When we come to a point of taking God in our hands and dancing Him around in such manner—He becomes an object—that we have control over. He is complete in the Host–which is now in our hands—and can be danced back and forth at Our mercy.

An earthy king–can tell his subjects–when and if he wants to be carried–danced with—he has control.

Our Lord in the Host—is at the mercy of what we want to do with Him. It is no longer about giving Him our highest form of worship–but about taking Him in our hands—look I can make Him dance with me.
 
This is a mere symptom, not the disease. A generation ago, no Catholic priest would have participated that amazing travesty, and had one tried, the Catholic audience would have physically stopped him, and his bishop would have disciplined him; whether in Sao Paulo or St. Louis MO.

I think we need to recognize that this isn’t about the silliness of “liturgical dance”, it’s about the attitudes of our hierarchy and clergy who, since VCII, have given themselves license to freely experiment with, to change, and to abuse the liturgy, which for 99.9% of Catholics is their only contact with their Church and religious community. Control that interface and you control the Church. Change it, and you change the Church.

This is an agenda to change the Church, not by papal direction or theological debate in Vatican chambers, but by gradually shifting the sense and framework of Catholicism among the faithful to align with the secular humanist world view that overwhelmed higher education in the West in the 50’s and 60’s. It’s been cultivated through the institutions of religious training since then, and is now promoted through episcopal authority by those who rose through the system with it.

The age of that Brazilian"priest" (he appears to be over 50) and the open public venue shows how firmly these ideas are now rooted in our Church. Regardless of tired rumors that a rescueing cavalry will arrive from Rome any day, the incidence and acceptance of these profoundly abusive practices are growing.

So its not really about its dancing or music or ad-libbing the Consecration or turning glorious churches built by the sweat and devotion of our immigrant parents into sterile warehouses. It’s about how two generations of ideological training of priests and nuns is radically changing the practice of Catholicism, and by doing so, the way Catholics understand their faith and relationship with Christ. While Rome rearranges the furniture, the bishops are moving the house.
 
I don’t know what the exact circumstances were but at least it wasn’t a Mass. Maybe they picked up on Cardinal Mahoney escapades and claim it is inculturazation .
 
I also had to stop the video out of disgust. Brazil is a nation with a rich heritage of cultural dance, albeit never at Mass until very recently. Brazil is also known for widespread dissent propagated by many members of the local clergy and radical outside groups, so the fact that this was filmed there does not surprise me much. As was pointed out earlier, this is not a traditional Brazilian dance form like any I’ve ever seen, but resembles a combination of Middle Eastern styles combined with contemporary cinematic music played on the ancient and traditional Brazilian digital piano.
 
I couldn’t get all the way through this video. It made me sick. It is of the Priest along with what appear to be teenage youth, doing some kind of dance around the monstrance. What can be done to stop such things?
This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. It would take a fool to come up with such an idea, and it would take another fool to approve of it. You have got to be clueless about Who that is in the monstrance in order to perpetrate something like this.
 
Solemn Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament is a liturgy. What happened in the video did not appear to be a liturgy.
Nope - it was a full blown filmed staged production, apparently put on for folks’ entertainment.
…But my dislike doesn’t mean that someone else’s private dance is necessarily irreverant. I have no idea whether the point of the dancing was to honor or to mock the Blessed Sacrament.
Private dance doesn’t involve a camera crew. This was neither spontaneous nor private. It was planned and produced.

Here are two other segments. Scroll all the way down until you see “A happy priest dances…” -
rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2006_11_01_rorate-caeli_archive.html

I think that the music in the second clip is using the soundtrack from Rosemary’s Baby. Really.

Couldn’t believe my eyes.

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:amen:
This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. It would take a fool to come up with such an idea, and it would take another fool to approve of it. You have got to be clueless about Who that is in the monstrance in order to perpetrate something like this.
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So, it’s fine for the Solemn Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament to have the monstrance waved around like a stick and irreverant dancing?
I somehow get the idea that Cardinal Arinze would not approve of Jesus being abused like that. 😦
 
Just thrown out for consideration. The dance appeared very similar to various Jewish dances. There are among a certain segment of the Christian population, those who identify themselves as “Spiritual Jews”. This group has made inroads into the Catholic Church, especially in Latin America. They feel that in order to be a true Christian you have to be spiritually Jewish in nature, thus the name. They incorporate Jewish dietary laws, among other things and adhere more to a Judaic model of worship then a Christian one. They accept that Christ was indeed the Messiah but change other doctrines… They also incorporate a lot of charismatic activity into their worship because, you guessed it, it happened in the primitive church. I suppose that given what they believe they have indeed returned to a more primitive model of the Church. Very primitive in fact, probably prior to the Council of Jerusalem. .They are an extreme group along the lines of those who advocate a return to the pureness of the Primitive Church , that so many today seem to be enamored with.

Could it be possible that this video is from such a group and not from a mainstream group or Catholic Church at all?
 
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