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I’m getting tired of these types of stories… seriously.
Unfortunately, this one was emailed to me, and I know some of the people involved and many that commented on it, so I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to respond without causing a huge issue.
I’m a new Catholic (kind of- I was Baptized as a baby, but only just had my first Communion, Confirmation is May 23rd), so I don’t want to get into a debate with these folks and say the wrong things.
Anyway, here’s another one of those types of stories…
Unfortunately, this one was emailed to me, and I know some of the people involved and many that commented on it, so I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to respond without causing a huge issue.
I’m a new Catholic (kind of- I was Baptized as a baby, but only just had my first Communion, Confirmation is May 23rd), so I don’t want to get into a debate with these folks and say the wrong things.
Anyway, here’s another one of those types of stories…
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unafraid
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How could you possibly respond to such a rambling, disjointed rant. Haven’t you heard? It is a “fools parade” of disgruntled Catholics, ecstatic atheists, spiritual anarchists, nihilists, and their ilk, who now have been given a platform to scream out in shrill, vulgar tones all of their pent-up venomous hatred. It is a new form of psychotherapy for the counter-spiritual class; a more real and potent form of “primal scream”. And what empathy is given to the poor victims of abuse by this hypervitriolic band of miscreants? They have reduced them to mere objects upon whom they step in order to reach the hierarchy of the Church. Rage has found its ultimate target, and it has chosen its time.
The only response to these things is an essentially Catholic (Christian) one: We must pray for the victims and, yes, pray for our enemies. That is what makes us different from them. Sure, it takes Grace to be able to do so, but is our belief in such a thing that marks us as unique, and explains our staying power.
The only response to these things is an essentially Catholic (Christian) one: We must pray for the victims and, yes, pray for our enemies. That is what makes us different from them. Sure, it takes Grace to be able to do so, but is our belief in such a thing that marks us as unique, and explains our staying power.
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I only read part of it, but what I saw was just another hate-filled rant against the Church. It makes me sad, but Jesus said this would happen.
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- Acknowledge how the priest abuse scandal has everyone’s heart and mind spinning and befuddled…but the bottom line is a forgone conclusion…the Church will be purified and recover and become more holy and give greater glory to God…yea, yea…I know its the same old story…but it is the same old True story…and it has been the same old story for 2000 years…and it will be the same old true story for another 2000 years…if God wills that time still rolls on for that long…before the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus.
- Also…lets remember who’s Catholic Church we are talking about…its not the Pope’s or the bishops or the priest’s or the laity…sure we are all privileged to be part of the Body of Christ…the Pope in a very special way and also the bishops and the priests in the liturgy/sacraments…but it is His Church…He is the Head and the One in-charge…you know…the same Guy who picked Judas as one of the Twelve…the Guy who let the devil think that he had “won” one…by letting him kill Him…nail Him to a tree…the same Guy who knocked Saul off his horse on the road to Damascus and asked him why he was persecuting Him (not the Church but Him) – yea…that Guy…Jesus, The Christ…"…Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me…" (cf Acts 9:4). The Guy who said…"…All authority in heaven and** on earth** has been given to me." (cf Matt 28:16-20). ** So what part of Jesus’ All Authority…on earth…does Mr. Hicks not get?**
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P.S…when dealing with Mr. Hicks…let us never put a “period” where God is almost invariably putting a “comma”…especially I hope for this “comma” in my poor soul’s raggedy and rocky journey to God!
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See, the issue I have is that the author of the book mentioned and most of those commenting know me, and none of them know I’m Catholic. Mainly because for the last year I’ve only spoken with them here and there and the subject of my joining the Church never came up.
I believe that this article was emailed to me because they thought I would applaud it for some reason (which I wouldn’t have even if I hadn’t joined the Church). Here’s what I see may happen shortly-
They ask what I thought of the article, I state that I’m Catholic and either a) that it was misleading and offensive, b) hate filled, or c) no comment other than “I’m Catholic”. Either way, the fact that I’ll be telling them that I’m Catholic will cause a likely debate with me for the following reason:
I’m involved in my own investigation into corruption which also ties into human trafficking and other areas. Some of the perps involved in my own investigation have ties to some of the perps from the Omaha stuff. So I can see them saying “After all you know how could you be Catholic?!?” or something like that. The fact is, in my investigation I did not find that the Church itself did anything wrong, but that certain individuals did. The coverup I found wasn’t within the Church, but more with law enforcement and rouge intel types. So without getting into the entire thing, if I felt the Church were responsible I probably wouldn’t be Catholic right now. This will likely spark a debate and even though I DO pray for our enemies and others. I guess I am looking for an appropriate way to respond when I’m questioned that doesn’t lead to debate (I hate to debate, especially when I’m new and don’t have all the answers).
I believe that this article was emailed to me because they thought I would applaud it for some reason (which I wouldn’t have even if I hadn’t joined the Church). Here’s what I see may happen shortly-
They ask what I thought of the article, I state that I’m Catholic and either a) that it was misleading and offensive, b) hate filled, or c) no comment other than “I’m Catholic”. Either way, the fact that I’ll be telling them that I’m Catholic will cause a likely debate with me for the following reason:
I’m involved in my own investigation into corruption which also ties into human trafficking and other areas. Some of the perps involved in my own investigation have ties to some of the perps from the Omaha stuff. So I can see them saying “After all you know how could you be Catholic?!?” or something like that. The fact is, in my investigation I did not find that the Church itself did anything wrong, but that certain individuals did. The coverup I found wasn’t within the Church, but more with law enforcement and rouge intel types. So without getting into the entire thing, if I felt the Church were responsible I probably wouldn’t be Catholic right now. This will likely spark a debate and even though I DO pray for our enemies and others. I guess I am looking for an appropriate way to respond when I’m questioned that doesn’t lead to debate (I hate to debate, especially when I’m new and don’t have all the answers).
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This link was posted in another thread. I’m stunned. I don’t know what to say. He must be.
Money paved way for Maciel’s influence in the Vatican
ncronline.org/news/accountabi…luence-vatican
In his time, the late Fr. Marcial Maciel Degollado was the greatest fundraiser of the modern Roman Catholic church. He was also a magnetic figure in recruiting young men to religious life in an era when vocations were plummeting. Behind that exalted façade, however, Maciel was a notorious pedophile, and a man who fathered several children by different women. His life was arguably the darkest chapter in the clergy abuse crisis that continues to plague the church.
Money paved way for Maciel’s influence in the Vatican
ncronline.org/news/accountabi…luence-vatican
In his time, the late Fr. Marcial Maciel Degollado was the greatest fundraiser of the modern Roman Catholic church. He was also a magnetic figure in recruiting young men to religious life in an era when vocations were plummeting. Behind that exalted façade, however, Maciel was a notorious pedophile, and a man who fathered several children by different women. His life was arguably the darkest chapter in the clergy abuse crisis that continues to plague the church.
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Only God knows the time, yet I do not personally feel that it will another 2,000 years. I think there is a reason that Jesus told Saint Faustina to prepare the world for His Second Coming. I doubt Jesus was doing so for an event 2,000 years in the future.
The last time a person was told to prepare the way of the Lord was 2,000 years ago, and we all know what happened then.
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Jesus also ranted about the corrupt priests of His day, did he not? It is because he loved the Temple that he raised such holy hell with priests who defiled it. He would not overlook their sins ‘for the good of the universal church’ the way then-Cardinal Ratzinger did with the priest in California. (See related thread.)
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I wouldnt bother. we are living at a time that the more we talk, the more we get in trouble. we just need to hold still and let our God deal with this situation.
the progressives are having a time of their lives. they think they are very holy even more than God. they are trying to tell the Church what to do. but this is what got where we are in the first place. the Church stopped listen to God to listen to and do as the people wanted. so now we have it. it is time for our Leaders(bishops, Cardinals, priests) to hear God instead of following the people.
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