The Dictator Pope - by Marcantonio Colonna. Politics & Social Sciences Kindle eBooks

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DustThouArt said:
Ad hominem attacks are really not necessary. You are entitled to your opinion on the books validity. And you have every right to voice that opinion within forum rules.
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That is what I did. My opinion, within forum rules. It is hardly an ad hominem against an unknown, which is what we have. In weighing the validity of slanderous statements, whether the person has any knowledge, or can even have any knowledge is absolutely essential. This book is seriously sinful, based on the quotes given, and how they fly in the face of Catholic teaching.
Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:
  • of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
  • of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another’s faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
  • of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor’s thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.
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EWTN and all its employs should be supportive of what the Church teaches. Or can anyone that supports this book and its endorsements explain how it is not in contradiction to this teaching?
 
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My rule of thumb when it comes to books is if I have any questios about whether it is worth reading or not I don’t read it. There are way more books in the world than my limited time to read
 
Tis_Bearself said:
For only $9.95!
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No way dudes and dudettes. Anything costing over 8 dollars has to be at least 400 pages! This is only 141. Ten dollars… I don’t think so.

On a serious note, I don’t know when this crazy carnival ride over the Pope is going to end, but I will be glad when it does.
 
I do nOT suggest that it be read by anyone who even MIGHT be scandalized by it. Such would only increase the confusion generated by this debate.

Pray very much
 
2towers said:
On a serious note, I don’t know when this crazy carnival ride over the Pope is going to end, but I will be glad when it does.
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There will be another Pope and the ride will continue, like it has for quite a while.
 
Speaking of, anyone hear about those who say that sketchy stuff happened with Francis’ election, and that it is in fact our Pope Emeritus Benedict who is the true pope?
 
So now we are into EWTN bashing. Mother Angelica is a close friend of Raymond.

If EWTN supports Church teachings, they would let people who express concern about things in the Church talk. And that is what they are doing, good for them.
 
Ah yes, there’s also a (anti) Pope David you can look up on YouTube if you want.

The idea that Benedict is actually pope sounds somewhat more plausible.
 
fin said:
So now we are into EWTN bashing.
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That is a rather loose use of the word, especially considering the introduction to this book. I would never think a Catholic would consider it bashing to thing that a Catholic network should follow Catholic teaching. Or can anyone that supports this book and its endorsements explain how it is not in contradiction to the Church’s teaching on truth?

I worded the statement the way I did because do not know if EWTN did in fact mention this book, much less give it a good review. I would be very surprised if they did.
Kei said:
The idea that Benedict is actually pope sounds somewhat more plausible.
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Having been around during the good pope’s resignation and the conclave that follows, I see all these scenarios as rather equally implausible.
 
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Do you simply mean you watched it on TV and such, or were you there? If you were there, how was Rome?

Oh, I remember how when it was announced lightning struck multiple times at the same spot.
 
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I watched him read the letter live. He is no longer the Pope. I do trust the evidence of my own eyes. Likewise, I followed the coverage of the conclave. I did see the smoke come out, again, live. There is no sort of revisionist history that can make Pope Francis not the Pope. Radical traditionalist can try to revise history of seventy years ago before I was born, but the stuff I lived through is not easily revised.
 
Oh no, I am not proposing there to be some case.

I merely find it so much oddity to be worthy of such light banter on the topic.
 
Such as what? I believe the lightning struck st Peters Basilica, if I recall.
 
Kei said:
Speaking of, anyone hear about those who say that sketchy stuff happened with Francis’ election, and that it is in fact our Pope Emeritus Benedict who is the true pope?
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You said it, not me
 
Ah, some say Pope Francis was chosen beforehand by a mafia, and then Pope Emeritus Benedict was coerced into resigning or such.
 
The strike, which happens a lot was hours after Pope Benedict resigned. Evoking it as a sign could just as easily mean that God does not like the Rosary, as that was the Feast of the day.

Or it was weather.
Kei said:
Ah, some say Pope Francis was chosen beforehand by a mafia, and then Pope Emeritus Benedict was coerced into resigning or such.
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One word. Conclave.

There is a reason the doors are closed and locked. I was kidding earlier with the Jack Chick comparison, but this one definitely has a Jack Chick feel. The mafia? Really? If you read some of the conclusions reached, some of the same techniques are used. You have the “insider” who revealed all the secret Jesuit connections. You have the Hislop method of drawing correlations and coincidences and drawing a narrative around it. You even have the evil looking photo that graces the front of the book.

I think your points are good, but as I said earlier, there is nothing new under the sun. Even The Godfather III evoked a mafia-esque conspiracy in the death of Pope John Paul I.
 
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sources? I’m not saying you are claiming this, but id like to see these articles/sources
 
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