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Is the Divine Mercy a private revelation and are we required to believe in it?
…it would not be quite accurate to say that the Diary is now one of the Church’s “official sacred documents.” It is not a proclamation of the Church’s infallible teaching authority, but a fallible record of the private and prophetic revelations given to a saint, and her musings about those revelations. As such, we are encouraged by the Church to accept it and respect it with the virtue of “prudence,” i.e., as on the whole trustworthy, rather than with the virtue of “divine faith,” i.e., as infallibly revealed by God, and therefore necessary to be believed by all the faithful. Thus, a faithful Catholic could largely disbelieve it and not be guilty of “heresy,” but one who did so would still be guilty of rashness and imprudence. It is overwhelmingly unlikely that a Diary which has been fully examined by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (the Church’s highest doctrinal tribunal under the Pope) and by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, and has been praised and quoted repeatedly by popes, and whose author has been canonized as a “saint” (that is, as someone “full-to-overflowing” with the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth) would contain serious and unqualified errors and illusions. The Holy Spirit does not abandon the Church when she is making such important acts of discernment (see Jn. 16:13; Acts 15:28). If He did we would be lost indeed!
My problem with it is, doesn’t it say something about the end of the world?, which unsettles me, and Jesus said “ no one knows but the father.”Divine Mercy Sunday is a universal solemnity officially established by the Pope, so churches are required to celebrate it.
Regarding the Divine Mercy revelations to St. Faustina as expressed in her diary, I will just quote from thedivinemercy.org :
…it would not be quite accurate to say that the Diary is now one of the Church’s “official sacred documents.” It is not a proclamation of the Church’s infallible teaching authority, but a fallible record of the private and prophetic revelations given to a saint, and her musings about those revelations. As such, we are encouraged by the Church to accept it and respect it with the virtue of “prudence,” i.e., as on the whole trustworthy, rather than with the virtue of “divine faith,” i.e., as infallibly revealed by God, and therefore necessary to be believed by all the faithful. Thus, a faithful Catholic could largely disbelieve it and not be guilty of “heresy,” but one who did so would still be guilty of rashness and imprudence. It is overwhelmingly unlikely that a Diary which has been fully examined by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (the Church’s highest doctrinal tribunal under the Pope) and by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, and has been praised and quoted repeatedly by popes, and whose author has been canonized as a “saint” (that is, as someone “full-to-overflowing” with the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth) would contain serious and unqualified errors and illusions. The Holy Spirit does not abandon the Church when she is making such important acts of discernment (see Jn. 16:13; Acts 15:28). If He did we would be lost indeed!
St. Faustina’s Divine Mercy prayer addressed to “Greatly Merciful God, Infinite Goodness” very clearly says that the date of the final judgment is “known to you (God) alone”. She does not predict the date of the end of the world.My problem with it is, doesn’t it say something about the end of the world?, which unsettles me, and Jesus said “ no one knows but the father.”
Are you sure? And the time wasn’t revealed to her?St. Faustina’s Divine Mercy prayer addressed to “Greatly Merciful God, Infinite Goodness” very clearly says that the date of the final judgment is “known to you (God) alone”. She does not predict the date of the end of the world.
That’s beautiful. Thanks!Here is the prayer.
It’s from her Diary.
I usually say it multiple times a day.
Read for yourself
Divine Mercy Prayer
???And the time wasn’t revealed to her?
Thanks. Anyone else?Not that I know of.
Furthermore, even if she had received such a revelation (which we would not be obligated to believe), God would be quite capable of changing his mind about the time.
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The bolder parts are what I think got me in a tizzy. Especially the part about Jesus’ return to earth, but also the part where “He is alive, too”. Does either of those mean that He will return really soon OR that He will return sometime but no one but the Father knows when?
I don’t see how they would say that.Does either of those mean that He will return really soon
I guess nothing. It was mentioned in that whole article along withUm, of course Jesus “is alive”. He rose from the dead (which we just celebrated last Sunday), the readings all week have been about his disciples going to look for him in the tomb and discovering he was alive, and we all know that he went on to ascend into heaven and sit at the right hand of God the Father. Surely you didn’t think He was deceased?
What does “He is alive” possibly have to do with the timing of God’s return for the final judgment?
Ok, so to be clear nobody but God knows when the end of the world will be and it could even be a really long time from now, right?The Lord’s return to earth has been predicted since Jesus ascended to Heaven (see for example 2 Peter 3).
The actual day of the return is known only to God.
As the poster above said, we should all be preparing for the return at all times because we have no idea when it might happen.
2 Peter 3 talks a lot about being prepared for the final judgment too, and that was written 2000 years ago.
2 Peter 3:8 also notes that a thousand years is like a day to God.
There is no way to quantify “really soon”. God doesn’t follow earthly time, and “really soon” could mean thousands of years from now or it could mean tomorrow morning.
We’re supposed to be prepared for it to happen literally any time.
Yes, that’s correctOk, so to be clear nobody but God knows when the end of the world will be and it could even be a really long time from now, right?