The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation

[SuperLuigi]

4 sisters molested isn’t serial molestation? If my 14 year old son committed a crime, he would have to pay for his crimes. I wouldn’t hide it. I would probably beat the hell out of him if I ever found out that he molested 4 of his little sisters. We would both be going to jail.

And what would that accomplish? “Beat the hell” out a kid in some places, you could lose them all to the “good” graces of the state.

Furthermore, a 14 year old would not likely end up in jail, but in JV detention at the worst.

 

[SuperLuigi]

SuperLuigi;12991126:

You aren’t the same afterwards. No matter what The Church teaches on virginity. You aren’t the same.

Then in such a case one needs to get help or file a police report. In any case, we are called to take up the cross. :yup: That’s the ultimate, humble thing to do.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

I have never been sexually abused, but I have been through my parents’ divorce. Is one worse than the other? It is hard to say, but I can say with certainty that I the experience of divorce as a child is amazingly painful and damaging. So giving divorcees a pass while throwing buckets of stones at a decent man who has sought spiritual and mental treatment for his childhood sins is a little, oh, you know, weird.

Frankly, I’d rather condemn neither, and let them each seek forgiveness and try to use God’s grace and forgiveness to help them serve our Lord and other people.

No, you can’t say if one is worse than the other, since you have never been abused. I’d rather my parents divorce everyday than to be sexually abused again.

 

[SuperLuigi]

“Public confidence?” That’s a bit rich, don’t you think? I am frankly unconcerned about the “confidence” of a public that so easily demonizes an apparently decent man while celebrating a whole host of other damaging, despicable behaviors, lifestyles, and actions.

I vote no confidence in the American public regarding sexual morality.

 

[Sophie_Lawrence]

You aren’t the same afterwards. No matter what The Church teaches on virginity. You aren’t the same.

I know. :hug1:

I was molested by a stranger at 14. I told no one except for a pen-pal in a different country, and later my husband, after years of marriage. 31 or so years later I still get flash backs.

And here, but no one knows me personally.

I am concerned about the age of the victims, and also by the age of the boy who did it.

It is possible that he was acting out in a way he was treated.

Awful story.

 

[SuperLuigi]

No, you can’t say if one is worse than the other, since you have never been abused. I’d rather my parents divorce everyday than to be sexually abused again.

One doesn’t have to had the experience to have an opinion.

 

[Colorad007]

He should pay for his crimes. I simple “I’m sorry” is BS. Anyone can say that. “Oh, he’s a good Christian, he must truly mean it.” What?
It should not have been handled the way it was. I don’t feel sorry for him. He chose to do what he did. I feel sorry for his sisters. The INNOCENT who lost something the first time it happened to them.

He should pay, Kendra? Is that one of the beatitudes, because I rather remember something about “mercy” in there? Don’t worry, I assure you that he is paying more from this than any district attorney could do to him.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I know. :hug1:

I was molested by a stranger at 14. I told no one except for a pen-pal in a different country, and later my husband, after years of marriage. 31 or so years later I still get flash backs.

And here, but no one knows me personally.

I am concerned about the age of the victims, and also by the age of the boy who did it.

It is possible that he was acting out in a way he was treated.

Awful story.

A logical deduction, but we may never know for sure.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

KendraDZ1902;12991135:

Then get help or file a police report. In any case, take up your cross. That’s the ultimate, humble thing to do.

Got help, filed a report. And I never said that I haven’t taken up my cross. It isn’t one of those crosses you can just set down. You are an incredibly uncompassionate person. Maybe you need some humbling.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

One doesn’t have to had the experience to have an opinion.

It just makes your opinion irrelevant to those who actually had the experience.

 

[SuperLuigi]

KendraDZ1902;12991158]

Got help, filed a report. And I never said that I haven’t taken up my cross. It isn’t one of those crosses you can just set down.

 

[SuperLuigi]

It just makes your opinion irrelevant to those who actually had the experience.

:nope: :dts:

 

[LongingSoul]

“Public confidence?” That’s a bit rich, don’t you think? I am frankly unconcerned about the “confidence” of a public that so easily demonizes an apparently decent man while celebrating a whole host of other damaging, despicable behaviors, lifestyles, and actions.

He obviously feels that it is appropriate to step down as that’s what he has done. If public confidence isn’t a requirement for a public leader, I’m at a loss to understand what sort of system you are proposing. Some kind of Christian dictatorship?

It’s natural to hold religious public leaders to a higher moral standard than those not claiming a moral high ground in influencing public policies. When they fall they will always fall harder. That’s how the world works.

 

[Havard]

He should pay, Kendra? Is that one of the beatitudes, because I rather remember something about “mercy” in there? Don’t worry, I assure you that he is paying more from this than any district attorney could do to him.

Don’t confuse paying your debts with lack of mercy. If you break someone’s fence, they should forgive you, but you still mend it.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

He should pay, Kendra? Is that one of the beatitudes, because I rather remember something about “mercy” in there? Don’t worry, I assure you that he is paying more from this than any district attorney could do to him.

Um, yes. People pay for their crimes every single day. Again, why have jails if we are supposed to believe that they are repentant and we are supposed to be merciful?

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

SuperLuigi;12991140:

Got help, filed a report. And I never said that I haven’t taken up my cross. It isn’t one of those crosses you can just set down. You are an incredibly uncompassionate person. Maybe you need some humbling.

Kendra, with all that you are going through there is no way this thread is healthy for you. Perhaps you should consider abandoning it. I say this not because I disagree with you, In fact I do not. I agree fully. But I am finding that in the past my feelings toward people can be affected by what they post. You don’t need this right now. It is a thread on an internet forum about reality TV. I find myself quite disturbed by this thread and this story. In light of the scandals of the Church and how we should be fully educated on how to handle abuse. And I am not really affected by it like you are. Perhaps, for your own health and peace, you should at least take a break from the thread for a while. If you disagree that is fine, but I worry about you and yes, you are still in my prayers often.

 

[Suudy]

He should pay for his crimes. I simple “I’m sorry” is BS. Anyone can say that. “Oh, he’s a good Christian, he must truly mean it.” What?
It should not have been handled the way it was. I don’t feel sorry for him. He chose to do what he did. I feel sorry for his sisters. The INNOCENT who lost something the first time it happened to them.

I see. He wasn’t punished enough. But you aren’t the one who decided his punishment. If the goal here is rehabilitiation, it appears it worked. So rather than accept that perhaps whatever punishment he did receive was suffient to affect a change in him (which it apparently has), you want to continue to punish him until he it meets your standards.

 

[Suudy]

Got help, filed a report. And I never said that I haven’t taken up my cross. It isn’t one of those crosses you can just set down. You are an incredibly uncompassionate person. Maybe you need some humbling.

It may not be one that you can put down. But as other posters here have stated, and it appears the Duggar girls have stated, they have put down their cross and moved on. You don’t get to decide their feelings for them.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Um, yes. People pay for their crimes every single day. Again, why have jails if we are supposed to believe that they are repentant and we are supposed to be merciful?

To protect society, not for revenge, for one.

But there’s no evidence at all that JD is a repeat offender. It sounds like from all the blowback people are talking about they WISH that were the case just so they could prove some selfish points on facebook, Y! or somewhere, but there is a process of innocent until proven guilty.

We don’t just throw people in jail.

 

[Havard]

Um, yes. People pay for their crimes every single day. Again, why have jails if we are supposed to believe that they are repentant and we are supposed to be merciful?

The most important things he needs to do are:

1. Make his victims whole. The sisters that he abused should have had independent counseling by someone that specializes in molestation abuse. He should pay for that, or at least co-pay along with his parents.
2. Get a thorough psych eval to determine his risk of repeat offending. If there’s any risk, he needs to follow whatever guidelines are required. If that means separating himself from parts of society, it should be done.