On the contrary, the thing I see being heavily marketed here is “we are just matter in motion.” A series of accidental combinations that even God, if you feel like including Him, had no idea we, man, would turn up. You just let evolution loose and it runs by itself.
Are you determining what your God could or could not do? I don’t really understand your objection. Is it only to say that YOU won’t accept evolution EVEN IF God is behind it all or was at the start of it?
This “finding” lends credibility to the Bigfoot hypothesis.Below is another fossil human footprint, this one 13 inches long called the Clark print after the Hydraulic Eng professor from UN of Illinois. He performs empirical investigations like a real scientist and has come every summer since about 1983. It is named after him because he helped excavate another 13 inch long one. It was he who established the hypothesis that the strata was laid down by huge tides. He is now in his 80’s, God bless him. This is not our best picture but there is a dinosaur footprint next to the human one; the 17 inch long dinosaur footprint was made after the human one came through as mud was pushed into the human one. Does this mean that man evolved before dinosaurs?
“It’s not a science museum at all,” Horner said. “It’s not a pseudo-science museum. It’s just not science. There’s nothing scientific about it.”
No real scientists are. But evolutionary biologist Francisco Ayala was just awarded the Templeton Prize for progress in the discussions about science and religion.
That’s probably it.
What post(s) do you have in mind that supposedly assert that “we are just matter in motion”? I don’t recall seeing anything to that effect in this thread. Unless you can provide some examples others might suspect that you are seeing problems where none exist?
I can’t get over this stuff. It’s like they don’t ever read the criticisms of this so-called “evidence”. It’s like me saying, “Hey, here’s a picture of the earth sitting on my neighbor’s roof.”This “finding” lends credibility to the Bigfoot hypothesis.
I know exactly what you mean.
Well put Ed. It seem to be just another New Age religion with a lot of different sects or hopeful mechanistic theories how we arrived here. No one has the least idea.
“Pedestile” is not a word.
That’s censorship!
Ed, I am slightly puzzled as to why you posted this in response to me. I am Buddhist, and Buddhism analyses humanity into five Aggregates (samskara). Only one of the five, Form (rupa), is material, the other four are immaterial. I have no problem with an immaterial component to humanity.
What is the Big Foot hypothesis? I’ve watched a lot of Monster Quest shows but can’t recall which “evolution sect” promotes such hypothesis going back 108 million years. If they are for real their alleged feet occasionally shown on TV resemble those of bears, perhaps a separate species?This “finding” lends credibility to the Bigfoot hypothesis.
Many of the fossil human footprints in pristine condition with distinct toe tips, heel and aspect ratios are superior to the best of the Laetoli human ones that only show two toes; I’ve seen a cast of it in the Museum of Natural History in NY in 1984. Gosh do you think those critters had only two toes? Or perhaps the humans were wearing a type of sandal only a few thousand years ago. as I suggested to the security guard in that separate exhibit.
It seems to me the goal is to create a Unified Evolutionary Explanation. Religious types get to add a soul or other immaterial concept plus God, if applicable. Non-religious types get to discard the immaterial because, after all, they know such things are fictional anyway.Well put Ed. It seem to be just another New Age religion with a lot of different sects or hopeful mechanistic theories how we arrived here. No one has the least idea.
If it wasn’t for academic censorship all the scientific anomalies would have been thoroughly researched out by now in an open society; and, in my opinion Darwin would have completely fallen off his pedestile.
“No intelligence allowed:” Anyone who challenges these differing sects are classified as Creationists; that seems to be their only unifying factor.
Yes, I know you are a Buddhist, and I wasn’t responding to you per se, but was inspired to write something. My point is, there is a massive marketing campaign going on right now. It’s summed up in a billboard: “Praise Darwin. Evolve beyond belief.”
Natural selection is not the issue. Even the most ardent YECr agrees that natural selection happens. The issue is the random mutations that allow NS to do it’s filtering.
I see it occasionally here (maybe not on this thread, I don’t remember).
Perhaps we should ask StA what her buddy Fr. George Coyne has to say about that. (Reminder, he says that even God did not know the outcome of evolution.)
I don’t think so.
Is then, it a scientific notion that since it’s not chance, it must be the result of guidance, design, purpose?
Agreed.
Of course chance can play a part. But it can’t be the whole story. If we attribute everything that exists as it is totally to chance, that is to say that it didn’t need to come about and be this way. That fits well perhaps with the idea of a deterministic universe, and we just lucked out and happen to be in the one multi-verse where chance happened to allow us to exist.
It might help to be clearer about what you are against. The human body is material and as I understand it the Catholic Church allows its members to accept that our material bodies evolved. To that extent there is no issue between the Church and evolution.
Yes it is: a “pedestile” is a turnstile you operate with you feet. An alternate meaning: it’s a pen used by pedophiles.
There are a number of issues. Pope John Paul II spoke about not just one theory but theories of evolution. The document “Communion and Stewardship” cites a number of evolutionary theories that are not compatible with Church teaching, including those of a neo-Darwinian provenance that explicitly deny to God any truly causal role for the development of life in the universe. If God is the easily discarded tack on, the Church is against that idea.