The Eucharist IS Scriptural!

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If there is no real presence in the Eucharist, then how can St.Paul warn us not to take it unworthily lest we become guilty of the body and blood of the Lord? That “spiritualization” makes complete nonsense not only of the 6th chapter of John, but of 1st Corinthians 10:16-17 “16 The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? 17 For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread.”

and 11: 23-30

23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. 24 And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. 25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.

26 For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. 27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. 30 Therefore are there many inform and weak among you, and many sleep.

Now, how can one become guilty of the body and blood of the Lord IF THAT BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD IS NOT REALLY THERE? Now if I make a symbol of Karl Keating like this symbol here: 🙂 and then I decide to do bad things to that symbol symbol…like say this: http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/blowup1.gif I may indeed be guilty of abusing that symbol of the goodman Karl Keating, but am I guilty of his body and blood? Silly question…of course not! Why? BECAUSE KARL KEATING IS NOT REALLY PRESENT IN THAT SYMBOL is he?
There is the the whole case for why the Eucharist really is the presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ…body and blood, soul and divinity.

Catholics! You have the greatest miracle of all at every Mass that you participate in. BE THERE!
Pax vobiscum,

P.S. To Karl Keating, and the mods: no offense intended 😉
 
So much for the Protestant claim that the Catholic belief of Jesus’s real presence in the Eucharist has no biblical basis.
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Genesis315:
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I’ll say, especially that treasure chest :cool:

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/chest.gif:thumbsup:
 
**Excellent posts Church Militant! The Eucharist is Scriptural and the passages you quote prove it. **

I’ve always wondered how Protestants who always qoute St. Paul’s Epistles never quote him in 1 Corinthians 10 and 1 Corinthians 11. St. Paul believed the bread and wine consecrated at Mass is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ. He states it very clearly in the passages you quote.
1 Corinthians 11:27-30 is the Catholic teaching that receiving Holy Communion with a mortal sin on your soul is a sacrilege. If the Eucharist is just a symbol, then it can’t be a sacrilege to receive it unworthily, since it isn’t Jesus. St. Paul contradicts all claims that the Eucharist is a symbol and not truly Jesus Christ.
 
Church Militant:
What? Everyone knows that Jesus is really present in the Eucharist? That’s a switch… :whistle:
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HI C.M. You spoke to soon. 😃 I personally believe it is a spiritual union because everything that is from above is spiritual.I,m not going to debate you on this issue because I cannot prove it to you and neither can you to me.Its our faith. We havent sat down for tea lately.God Bless brother.
 
Church Militant:
If there is no real presence in the Eucharist, then how can St.Paul warn us not to take it unworthily lest we become guilty of the body and blood of the Lord? That “spiritualization” makes complete nonsense not only of the 6th chapter of John, but of 1st Corinthians 10:16-17 “16 The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? 17 For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread.”

and 11: 23-30

23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. 24 And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. 25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.

26 For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. 27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. 30 Therefore are there many inform and weak among you, and many sleep.

Now, how can one become guilty of the body and blood of the Lord IF THAT BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD IS NOT REALLY THERE? Now if I make a symbol of Karl Keating like this symbol here: 🙂 and then I decide to do bad things to that symbol symbol…like say this: http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/blowup1.gif I may indeed be guilty of abusing that symbol of the goodman Karl Keating, but am I guilty of his body and blood? Silly question…of course not! Why? BECAUSE KARL KEATING IS NOT REALLY PRESENT IN THAT SYMBOL is he?
There is the the whole case for why the Eucharist really is the presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ…body and blood, soul and divinity.

Catholics! You have the greatest miracle of all at every Mass that you participate in. BE THERE!
Pax vobiscum,

P.S. To Karl Keating, and the mods: no offense intended 😉
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Hi C.M. The guilt is on our part not being right with God and in a state of sin. One who recieves in an unworthy manner is subjecting themselves to possible death. :eek: God Bless
 
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HI C.M. You spoke to soon. 😃 I personally believe it is a spiritual union because everything that is from above is spiritual.I,m not going to debate you on this issue because I cannot prove it to you and neither can you to me.Its our faith. We havent sat down for tea lately.God Bless brother.
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Well for cryin’ out loud let’s get that tea going. Sippin’ a coke right now though…

In the end it comes down to how you are willing to believe these passages of scripture. If, as I believe, Jesus is indeed speaking literally (as both his unbelieveing disciples and the Jews clearly understood Him to be) in John 6 then we have no choice but to take Him at His literal word The “make or break” nature of His remarks to the apostles is what really sells me, as well as St.Paul’s remarks about it. I cannot understand how anyone can become guilty of the body and blood of the Lord if that body and blood is not really there. (as I demonstrate above) It just defies all simple God-given common sense and the way these passages are written. It would take far more of a leap of blind faith for me to accept the non-Catholic position.
As always…I keep you and all those I share with on here in all my prayers and may Our Lord bless and keep you in all things in His will.
Pax vobiscum,
 
Church Militant:
Now if I make a symbol of Karl Keating like this symbol here: 🙂 and then I decide to do bad things to that symbol symbol…like say this: http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/blowup1.gif I may indeed be guilty of abusing that symbol of the goodman Karl Keating, but am I guilty of his body and blood? Silly question…of course not! Why? BECAUSE KARL KEATING IS NOT REALLY PRESENT IN THAT SYMBOL is he?
There is the the whole case for why the Eucharist really is the presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ…body and blood, soul and divinity.
P.S. To Karl Keating, and the mods: no offense intended 😉
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Well there goes my theory that Karl Keating was a smilie face…

As one in RCIA, I can tell you, I didn’t understand the Eucharist until last year, and now I really cannot wait for the Easter Vigil when I can finally receive the Eucharist. When I think about it, it is very overwhelming, and humbling…
 
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mommy:
Well there goes my theory that Karl Keating was a smilie face…

As one in RCIA, I can tell you, I didn’t understand the Eucharist until last year, and now I really cannot wait for the Easter Vigil when I can finally receive the Eucharist. When I think about it, it is very overwhelming, and humbling…
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Even as a cradle Catholic and “re-vert” you sum up my sentiments on te Eucharist exactly Mommy.
Pax vobiscum,
 
Thank you for posting this!

Lately I can’t seem to stay away from the Blessed Sacrament in adoration, and sometimes I need a little boost in my faith, or a little explanation…what draws me there so strongly?

(I’m Catholic, btw). Anyway, thanks for posting all those verses. After a seminar tonight I plan to go in and hang out with our Lord and Savior and will re-read all you have posted. (In my own Bible, of course!) 🙂

Every so often I seem to fully comprehend what the Catholic Church has, and it just reduces me to absolute mush. I’m so proud to be a part of it…yet so humbled by the enormity of the miracle we witness so often.
 
JCPhoenix,
I know exactly what you mean my friend. It’s like sharing in the exploration of the facets of a huge and very beautiful diamond. The beauty of which is overwhelmingly powerful…
Glory Be To God!
 
The Eucharist is what gives my wife and I power in our faith.

Once you believe in it, it makes so much of the Bible make sense. What would Jesus be talking about in all those passages that talk about it, if it wasn’t so important?

I read a statement that said that they didn’t believe in it because there never was a miracle in which the appearance looked the same but the essence changed.
This was amazing to me, didn’t they ever hear of the Incarnation! Wasn’t Jesus, God? Did he bleed and die?

I read another one that said they didn’t believe it because how could God be present in all the individual pieces everywhere they are?

I believe in a God who can do anything, God is all powerful. He has the power to be anywhere, anywhich way he wants to be.

John Martignoni says, that he has never seen anyone leave a protestant church because it was to difficult to believe in a symbolic presence of Jesus in their communion. Then why would disciples leave Jesus when he was supposedly stating that it was symbolic? Why did they say “This saying is hard, and who can hear it?”

The disciples had a hard time believing Jesus, how many miracles had they seen him do. They had never seen anybody else do the things he did, but they had a hard time believing his words.

It just takes faith to believe, yet the Eucharist at the same time strengthens my faith.
 
The point that I always like to emphasize to Protestants when discussing the Eucharist is that when, in John 6:66-68, everyone left after Jesus talked about eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Did he say, “Hey wait, don’t leave. I was only talking figuratively.”? NO! **He meant every word he said. :hmmm: **
 
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The point that I always like to emphasize to Protestants when discussing the Eucharist is that when, in John 6:66-68, everyone left after Jesus talked about eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Did he say, “Hey wait, don’t leave. I was only talking figuratively.”? NO! **He meant every word he said. :hmmm: **
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This is very significant in light of this verse:
Mark 4:34 And without parable he did not speak unto them; **but apart, he explained all things to his disciples. ** Which illustrates just exactly what you said.
 
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