The Final Judgment Of CAF

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What will I do with my new free time now? Become more productive I hope. I joined shortly after converting to Catholicism in 2008 so I have made many friends who I will miss. It has been fun!
 
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But but…the Hotel you can never check out of …🙀
The roof’s caving in ! The wall’s are buckling …!
(Grabbing the coffee Cauldron and running for the door…)
 
(We should at least be able to have a months worth of endless “ likes” :roll_eyes:🥱)
 
I’ll miss all of the friends made here on the CAF during this past year; too many to mention. Only joined the end of Feb. 2020 but these virtual connections helped me sanely survive the isolation of COVID. Prayers shared, songs remembered, art discovered, quirky jokes, memes, cartoons to tickle my fancy, coffee and cookies enjoyed, Catholic apologetics or philosophy questions that I never would have thought about on my own, personal memories evoked: I will miss the interactions. Goodbyes are never easy so from one of my favorite crazy books I’ll just say ‘Thanks for all the fish’!

“Curiously enough, the dolphins had long known of the impending demolition of Earth and had made many attempts to alert mankind to the danger. But most of their communications were misinterpreted as amusing attempts to punch footballs, or whistle for tidbits, so they eventually gave up and left the Earth by their own means - shortly before the Vogons arrived. The last ever dolphin message was misinterpreted as a surprisingly sophisticated attempt to do a double backwards somersault through a hoop, whilst whistling the ‘Star-Spangled Banner’. But, in fact, the message was this “So long and thanks for all the fish.” - Douglas Adams

 
I never watched LOST but I remember someone on another forum using it to explain to some millennial that yes, Virginia, there was a Pacific Theater of war in WWII involving jungles and such. This kid apparently thought all the action was in Europe. He now works in national politics.
 
I’m in, pending moderator approval. Same user name.

Edit: . . . which may not happen very soon, given what today is 😃

A-a-and just that quickly – approval!

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Yes, if there is some thread or discussion one particularly wishes to keep, I would suggest going over to Archive dot org and archiving it there if the site will let you do that. It might also be archived there already.
 
Pufi said:
Don’t even think about saying: “but that is not what the church teaches!”
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Hmmm agree to disagree.
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Not even all the Catholics form a homogeneous crowd, and to say that the ones, who have divergent opinion are just “CINO”-s, or heretics… does not help your aim of evangelizing others. Especially the atheists.
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Agree to disagree. In my experience the sincere atheists I know find CINOs incredibly annoying and counter productive to learning about what Catholicism is, and instead find the clarity of straightforward doctrinal boundaries helpful to engage with. It’s only the insincere atheists (and CINOs) who claim there’s any benefit to anyone of pretending that those who reject Catholic teaching, should still be called practicing Catholics. It fuzzes up the picture, removes the clarifying glasses instead of putting them on. Honest people don’t like that, whether religious or atheist. Honest people like clarity and truthful distinctions, not blurring that smooshes falsehood in with truth.
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“orthodox views are welcome, liberal views are NOT welcome”.
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Liberal views are totally welcome, so long as they’re also orthodox. If someone thinks they can be liberal (or conservative!) in a way that contradicts the orthodox Catholic faith though, they shouldn’t expect to still be called ‘Catholic.’ Catholicism is a religion, not a political or psychological tendency towards either unconditional boundary maintenance or unconditional boundary breaking.

There’s no legitimate place, on a forum devoted to ‘Catholic Answers’ for contradiction of dogmatically defined truth unless it’s a non catholic explaining how they don’t yet believe the dogma, and asking the Catholic to explain the dogma. If it turns into 500 posts of never ending insistence that Catholics aren’t bound by catholic dogma though (whatever words someone chooses to use), it would be an exercise in insanity to cooperate with that. Such conversations can be moved to an ex-catholic or atheist forum.
 
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It fuzzes up the picture, removes the clarifying glasses instead of putting them on. Honest people don’t like that, whether religious or atheist. Honest people like clarity and truthful distinctions, not blurring that smooshes falsehood in with truth.
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I agree with this…as an agnostic trying to understand what the catholic perspective is and why you hold it, it’s not helpful when other Catholics start arguing about whether they’re really required to believe something or not. If it’s a position the church has a stance on…I want to know what it is and why. If the church hasn’t taken a stance on an issue, then it can be interesting to hear the various views. But, it can be quite confusing when one catholic says the church has spoken and another claims it’s left to the individual. It’s either been clarified or it hasn’t !

It took me quite a bit to sort out whether a catholic can or can not vote for a pro abortion candidate. I now know the answer but it was a slow slog to finally figure out exactly what the church says vs a bunch of peoples interpretations of the church. :hugs:

Eventually, it becomes clear on whether the Church has made a definitive decision but it can take 300 posts to get there! 😂
 
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