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ProVobis
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Not to mention the very many silent letters it has.
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OraLabora
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Itās been like that every Sunday this summer at the abbey where I attend Mass. And yes, it is in the Ordinary Form. But with Gregorian chant: sung propers and ordinary in Latin/Greek, sung everything else except the homily in French plainchant. Given that the nearest EF Mass is more than 75 miles away, it seems to do for most folks. In fact itās the Mass as Sacrosanctum Concilium saw it.
During the last couple of weeks, even weekday Mass has been nearly full.
During the last couple of weeks, even weekday Mass has been nearly full.
Mark121359
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I remember my first Tridentine Mass. It was quite by accident. This was back when I first started going to St. Alphonsus Shrine about twenty years ago. I would go there on a weekday to go to Confession and Mass, because I was rarely off on Saturdays. I didnāt at that time realize that they even had a Tridentine Mass! So imagine my surprise when the Priest comes out, and precedes to offer Mass facing ad orientem. I remember afterwards on the ride home, (and for that matter, many days that followed) that even though I didnāt understand a word of it, I couldnāt for the life of me stop thinking about the immense beauty that I had just witnessed, and was immediately hooked. In August 2017, St. Alphonsus Shrine was entrusted to the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter.
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Angel_Gabriel
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My first EF Mass was a low Massā¦ the only thing I remember is kneelingā¦so much kneeling! My knees ached!!!
The next āLatinā mass I attended was an OF Mass. I liked it alotā¦familiar but ancientā¦a perfect mix. (Well, actually I wish they used a bit more English but oh well.)
I finally went to a Missa Cantata (EF āHigh Massāā¦not really High Mass b/c there was never a bishop there). Again, at first I was immersed in all the incense, chanting, reverence etcā¦butā¦the kneeling! oh so much kneeling! AFter my first few months of this I tired of itā¦I was never apart of anythingā¦never felt like I was praying along. I dontā know Latinā¦heck, even the language I speak (English) isnāt a Romance language so very vew things felt familiar.
Now, Divine Liturgyā¦ah, Divine Liturgy. The first time I went brought tears to my eyes. I so much wished that my OF parish would return to itās rootsā¦incense, chanting etc. I was hooked. Iām now Eastern Catholic and I love Divine Liturgy. There is no going back unfortunately.
The next āLatinā mass I attended was an OF Mass. I liked it alotā¦familiar but ancientā¦a perfect mix. (Well, actually I wish they used a bit more English but oh well.)
I finally went to a Missa Cantata (EF āHigh Massāā¦not really High Mass b/c there was never a bishop there). Again, at first I was immersed in all the incense, chanting, reverence etcā¦butā¦the kneeling! oh so much kneeling! AFter my first few months of this I tired of itā¦I was never apart of anythingā¦never felt like I was praying along. I dontā know Latinā¦heck, even the language I speak (English) isnāt a Romance language so very vew things felt familiar.
Now, Divine Liturgyā¦ah, Divine Liturgy. The first time I went brought tears to my eyes. I so much wished that my OF parish would return to itās rootsā¦incense, chanting etc. I was hooked. Iām now Eastern Catholic and I love Divine Liturgy. There is no going back unfortunately.
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MockSock
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Missa Cantata is not High Mass. High Mass has nothing to do with a bishop being there.
Missa Cantata - sung Mass
Missa Solemnis - High Mass
Missa Pontificalis - Mass with a Bishop
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Angel_Gabriel
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Sorry, my mistakeā¦Iām not that well versed in the technicalities of the Latin Church.
The main point I wanted to make was : EF - kneeling (and LOTS of it!) and Latin; DL - standing and vernacular (usually)
The main point I wanted to make was : EF - kneeling (and LOTS of it!) and Latin; DL - standing and vernacular (usually)
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OraLabora
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Or it could be due to their award-winning cheese and cider, many visitors at Mass combine it with a trip to the shop to buy some 
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UpUpAndAway
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There ya go
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JoyToTheWhirled
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I feel especially blessed as a Catholic with a parish that has EF and OF Masses, the OF Masses I have been to well attended, even the weekday ones, and I have a fridge with stilton, port salut, Wensleydale, brie and cheddar in itā¦
I tell you, I even have conversations with my teenagers about the Assumption and the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and have to beg them to let me go and finish cooking dinner.
I am rocking the Catholic thing!
I tell you, I even have conversations with my teenagers about the Assumption and the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and have to beg them to let me go and finish cooking dinner.
I am rocking the Catholic thing!
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Margaret_Ann
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The person asking is attending the TLM for the first time; ergo, they follow the Gregorian calendar.
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Margaret_Ann
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I still know my Our Father, Angelical Salutation, Glory, and some parts of the Liturgy in Slavonic.
Are you in upstate PA? I know some Ukrainian Greek Catholic parishes still use Slavonic (thank goodness).
Are you in upstate PA? I know some Ukrainian Greek Catholic parishes still use Slavonic (thank goodness).
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Margaret_Ann
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When I was little, the entire Liturgy was in Slavonic except for the Epistle, Gospel and homily. Two gentlemen took turns reading the Epistle in Slavonic or Ukrainian while my late father and another gentleman took turns reading the Epistle in English.
We had Liturgy in the church hall (our church was not built until the late 1990s) and people dressed better for Liturgy than they do now.
We had Liturgy in the church hall (our church was not built until the late 1990s) and people dressed better for Liturgy than they do now.
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babochka
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No, Iām on the West Coast. I grew up with the liturgy partially in Slavonic. These days, it is a rare treat. I prefer an English liturgy overall, but I enjoy Slavonic from time to time. There arenāt many in our parish who can sing it anymore. The last time we had a Divine Liturgy in Slavonic was about 5 years ago and we had a cantor come in from out of town.
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Margaret_Ann
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My late fatherās home parish in upstate PA still sings the Liturgy in Slavonic. Iām trying to convince my mom to go with me to my dadās parish. We havenāt been there in almost 17 years when we went up for my auntās funeral in November 2001.
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Margaret_Ann
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Please refresh my memory: What Eparchy are you in?
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babochka
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Eparchy of Phoenix.
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Augustinian
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Thatās remarkable that a Ukrainian parish established by immigrant miners would still be around more than a century afterwards and still be worshipping in the old language.
I would have thought that most of the original membersā descendants skipped town a long time ago
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Margaret_Ann
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My first TLM was Nov. 1, 1997 (All Saints Day on the Latin calendar). My friend and I sat in the first pew on the right hand side (I.e. the Epistle side; in a Byzantine church it would be the side of Our Lord) so as to see everything.
It was a Low Mass - and I mean LOW Mass. We were leaning forward to hear what the priest said because he spoke in such a low voice.
We used the red booklets published by Ecclesia Dei and still got lost except when it came to the āEt cum spiritu tuo.ā
Even though it was very confusing, my friend said to me that this (the TLM) is ten times more beautiful than the NO.
Fast forward to April 2018. I was invited to a First Communion TLM. I hadnāt attended the TLM in almost 7 years but knew what to expect. It was a Low Mass - and I loved every minute of it.
However, as a Ukrainian Greek Catholic, there are a few things I still donāt understand: 1) At Low Mass, why does one kneel during the Epistle and Gradual (Alleluia)? 2) At High Mass, why does one sit during the Creed? I havenāt found any good answers to these questions.
It was a Low Mass - and I mean LOW Mass. We were leaning forward to hear what the priest said because he spoke in such a low voice.
We used the red booklets published by Ecclesia Dei and still got lost except when it came to the āEt cum spiritu tuo.ā
Even though it was very confusing, my friend said to me that this (the TLM) is ten times more beautiful than the NO.
Fast forward to April 2018. I was invited to a First Communion TLM. I hadnāt attended the TLM in almost 7 years but knew what to expect. It was a Low Mass - and I loved every minute of it.
However, as a Ukrainian Greek Catholic, there are a few things I still donāt understand: 1) At Low Mass, why does one kneel during the Epistle and Gradual (Alleluia)? 2) At High Mass, why does one sit during the Creed? I havenāt found any good answers to these questions.
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dochawk
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and in the east, we have the Hierarchical Divine Liturgy. Although most of the time when our bishop visits, it isnāt used. Iāve only seen it once, at an ordination.
so do Iābut if I donāt know the liturgy itself well enough, itās just a pretty thing.
Had my first Divine Liturgy been in Slavonic, I wouldāve thought it pretty, and gone on my way . . . part of what awed me was that it came across as a whole, not as parts, and the near-complete statement of the Faith. I would have missed that part entirely . . .
Iāve been to Mass a number of times in Spanish (though the homily tends to be a waste of timeāI donāt speak that much), and was able to fully follow it in Dutch (although it would go from a near-english sentence to the next being gobbledygook that I happened to know what meant, and back repeatedly).
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Fauken
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Technically, at least in my parish, we stand during the High Mass until the priest sits down.
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