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Nickkname
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So, when will Acts of the Apostles be shown on the big screen? I really hope it is soon. 
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mchjm08
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The book of revelations is the original forms of the ten commandments. It was taken from the Egyptians from where the roman catholic church stole the followingā¦I have not stolen became thou shall not steal, I have not killed became thou shall not kill and so on. You can research it yourself at a local library and ask for a translated form of the book of revelations.
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Nickkname
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Yes, because the Book of Revelation came AFTER the Ten Commandments.
Keep being (unintentionally) funny. I could use a good laugh.
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mchjm08
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You are correct I can not convice that many christians because they refute all of the imposed arguments and will not look at the evidence I am presentingā¦any christian can go to an oracle and ask the story of krishna and you will see that krishna and jesus are both the same.
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Nickkname
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Because oracles are historic scholars, huh?
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Teflon93
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If it were common sense, it shouldnāt be hard to do, right?
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mozier
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This is where Mozierās Law comes into play:
*For every convincing argument against God, Jesus, The Bible, or Christianity, there is an equally convincing argument in favor of God, Jesus, The Bible, or Christianity. *
In other words, it is pointless to argue it. You either believe it or you do not. To try and convince someone of your āirrefutable evidenceā is an effort in futility, for there will always be āevidenceā to refute it. So donāt bother.
*For every convincing argument against God, Jesus, The Bible, or Christianity, there is an equally convincing argument in favor of God, Jesus, The Bible, or Christianity. *
In other words, it is pointless to argue it. You either believe it or you do not. To try and convince someone of your āirrefutable evidenceā is an effort in futility, for there will always be āevidenceā to refute it. So donāt bother.
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RobHom
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If heās a āteenagerāā¦its understandableā¦to some extent. On the other hand, he may be trying to get under your skin. Donāt over-react. Thats the worst thing you can do.
Insteadā¦if he is computer literate, challenge him to go to some of these links and read real historyā¦
In this one read down to āAbgar and the First Baptismā, and then what follows:
hayastan.com/armenia/history/armenia/index02.php
The following also have salient comments from persons who lived in those days to include Flavius Josephus, Pontius Pilate, Julian the Apostate and othersā¦
why-jesus.com/history.htm
christianity.about.com/od/denominations/a/catholichistory.htm
(interesting article)
newadvent.org/cathen/08375a.htm
users.binary.net/polycarp/jesus.html
There are many other sources of proof that Christ is real, and thus God is real. Googling āJesus Christ Roman Historyā will get you much information.
So farā¦all I can find about Brian Flemingā¦is that he is an āEX-Christian Evangelicalāā¦no further comment necessary there.
But this article written seems to be somewhat unbiased, yet clearly makes a case against Flemmingā¦and its far less than flattering and does much to disprove Flemmings allegations.
Good luck!! (Sometimesā¦brass knuckles helpā¦JUST KIDDING!!)
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patrick457
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A word to the wise: If you got that statement from outdated and refuted works such as The Worldās Sixteen Crucified Saviors (which was written in 1885 by Kersey Graves; it was then since refuted by Theists and Atheists alike), I think itās time you get a more new source.
For the record, comparing Krishna to Jesus is like comparing a sheep to an elephant.
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patrick457
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Youāre not talking about the Book of Revelation here. You meant the Book of the Dead, right?
In chapter 125 of the Book of the Dead, the dead makes a testimony in front of the gods:
Sure there are similarities between the 10 Commandments, but one is a moral code, and the other is merely a confession of sorts.
Have you even read a Bible? The Book of the Dead and the Book of Revelation are quite separate animals; one relates a vision that the author (identifying himself as John) received while on exile in Patmos, while the other is a funerary text intended to help the deadās soul in the Egyptian afterlife.
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mchjm08
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To start the book of revelations was not written after the 10 commandments it was written around 400 BC. Its fun schooling kool aid drinkers like youā¦also you are right oracles are not teaching centers but they will educate you on hinduism and how krishna was the founder and how she and Jesus are completely similarā¦also to a previous statement about global enslavement. Its is a good chance that this will happen in the near future thanks to the bilderberg group.
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patrick457
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Those saints are named as a form of commemoration; in the early days being a Christian could easily send you to your death. These men and women who died for being Christians were commemorated in a list of sorts during every celebration of the Eucharist, and the Priest prays that at the end, we may share in the fellowship of these Apostles and Martyrs who died for their faith.
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mchjm08
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Patrick,
I have read the bible and have found many miss translations. The most accurate version is the king james bible.
I have read the bible and have found many miss translations. The most accurate version is the king james bible.
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patrick457
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Again, it is NOT the Book of Revelation but the Book of the Dead, or to use the Egyptian term, The Book of Coming forth by Dayā.
The Book originally did not have a standard form as it is mostly a Book containing incantations, instructions for the dead person, and hymns to the Egyptian gods. Every āownerā could commission a personalized version of the book, thus leading to the many variants.
The Book of the Dead was finally standardized during the New Kingdom (1570ā1070 BC) and the Third Intermediate Period (1070 BC-664 BC).
By contrast, the Exodus is usually believe to have happened somewhere either around 1580 BC-1215 BC or the first or second third of the 13th century BC.
Even if you do not believe in the historicity of the Exodus and believe that the book achieved its final form around 450 BC, one cannot deny that Israelite culture is already then a different culture separated from Egypt, making plagiarism unlikely.
Krishna is not a āsheā, but a āheā (at least, I assume that the avatars of Vishnu are all males).
And no, I donāt happen to like Kool-Aid by the way; I prefer natural fruit juice (For the record: the beverage that Jim Jones and the Peopleās Temple drank is actually the more obscure Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid. Kraft Foods must be sore disappointed by now
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RobHom
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**Gee, that dating is oddā¦ seems you have a rather strange sourceā¦ this site disagrees with you and goes into detail earlychristianwritings.com/revelation.html It puts the dates at 90-95 CE This one disagrees with you as wellā¦ cresourcei.org/therevelation.html as does this oneā¦usccb.org/nab/bible/revelation/intro.htm **
Hmmm, an ad hominem attackā¦mixed in with commentsā¦ hmm, thats a tricky device!! Lends much ācredibilityāā¦not.
Iām sorryā¦but I have to askā¦ Do you wear a ātinfoil hatā?
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mchjm08
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Patrick,
You seem to understand the naming of the catholic churches better than I do. But thousands of people died because of the fact that they were christians but no one named a church after them so how was did the selection process worked?
You seem to understand the naming of the catholic churches better than I do. But thousands of people died because of the fact that they were christians but no one named a church after them so how was did the selection process worked?
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patrick457
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Erm, why would you choose a translation of the Bible published in 1611? Biblical Scholarship had advanced since then.
Now, I donāt denigrate the King James Bible here; sure it is a hallmark in English Literature, but the guys who translated it then had to work with the (mostly) few and late manuscripts they have; by contrast we have already discovered more early and important manuscripts to work on (take for example Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, the Dead Sea Scrolls, Papyrus Bodmer XIV-XV [P75], Papyrus Bodmer II [P66] etc.).
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RobHom
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THANK YOU!!!..for the good laugh that is!!!
Iām really beginning to think the ātin-foil hatā question was appropo!
Iām guessing you have some āotherwordlyauthorityā to make such a declarationā¦even though there are many sources that document errors in the KJV???
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patrick457
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Originally churches were named after people who were either killed or buried in the location that the church was built (for example, St. Peterās Basilica is named such because the Peter the Apostle was buried in a public cemetery that used to stand on Vatican Hill, St. Paul outside the Walls was named such since Paulās grave is located in the area, etc.).
This practice had its roots in celebrating the Eucharist in the Catacombs (Building churches publicly was still rather dangerous then, so Christians met in any secret location they could, such as an underground cemetery, which is what catacombs are) over the grave of a martyr.
This custom eventually transformed by having a relic (a portion of mortal remains) of two saints (one of which had to be a martyr, in keeping with the above custom) sealed inside an Altar during its consecration.
Eventually the choice of a particular patron of a Church has depended upon many circumstances. These, as a rule, have been one or other of the following:
(1) The possession of the body or some important relic of the saint;
(2) his announcement of the Gospel to the nation;
(3) his labours or death in the locality;
(4) his adoption as the national patron;
(5) the special devotion of the founder of the church;
(6) the spirit of ecclesiastical devotion at a given time.
After the reforms of Vatican II, portable wooden Altars, especially in non-Church venues (such as schools) became abundant (formerly, it is required that Altars, at least those āfixedā ones, be made of stone), in which case, these Altars (since they could not contain any relics of Saints) could only be blessed, not consecrated. Formerly, portable Altar stones (squarish stone slabs consecrated in the usual manner, with the relics contained inside a hollow in the slab) were used.
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mchjm08
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Actually the purpose of a tin foil hat in your terms would be to deflect mind reading rays while in reality gamma rays that would be used in such device could easily penetrate 3 feet of reinforced concrete not to mention a 5 MM piece of tinā¦so you are telling me that you rather believe a piece of writting that was made probably in a cave and translated hundreds of timesā¦there are many mistakes for example the fact that in the catholic bible it states that jesus will be with us until the end of time but really instead of time it means aeon which is age and it makes sense because the bible goes through 3 ages while predicting 4th which is the age of piscies.
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