The GOP's Third Party Option

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I don’t know why folks hang up so much on Mr Romney’s religion.

I mean, except for Native Americans, what could be more American than Mormonism??🙂

ICXC NIKA
 
Almost all the posts that I read were the most judgmental ones I have seen. I doubt that any of you actually know the candidates personally and just believe whatever our wonderful media and the establishment say.

Hopefully none of you will be judged by our Lord when the day comes as you have judged so many others.

It disappoints me to see Catholics so judgmental of others. If I don’t really know a person I don’t judge them, nor believe what others say about them. In fact, that person you judged might be the person who helps you in time of need, we never know.

Charity and love is a commandment from Christ and I know that I have sinned at times, however, now that I recognize how distasteful my actions were I try not to judge without actual proof and then only the action, not the person as I don’t know what is in their heart.

Let us all remember that we are Christians and follow Christ.

God Bless

Bernadette
 
I think one thing stuck out immediately as a red flag and thus if I were an American; would not even consider voting for them, which is ‘planned parenthood’ which means murder (Abortion).

The second thing that suck out and sent up red flags meaning I wouldn’t consider voting for them was LGBTQI ideology.

😦 “For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
 
Wow. Another letter already?

This alternate-sexuality snowball ain’t stopping and will ultimately take over the political scene.

ICXC NIKA
 
I think the GOP down fall is because they are for the PARTY, Party, Party and not the people… it’s the Party at all costs and how can they keep their jobs forever…
And Democrats aren’t?
 
Almost all the posts that I read were the most judgmental ones I have seen. I doubt that any of you actually know the candidates personally and just believe whatever our wonderful media and the establishment say.

Hopefully none of you will be judged by our Lord when the day comes as you have judged so many others.

It disappoints me to see Catholics so judgmental of others. If I don’t really know a person I don’t judge them, nor believe what others say about them. In fact, that person you judged might be the person who helps you in time of need, we never know.

Charity and love is a commandment from Christ and I know that I have sinned at times, however, now that I recognize how distasteful my actions were I try not to judge without actual proof and then only the action, not the person as I don’t know what is in their heart.

Let us all remember that we are Christians and follow Christ.

God Bless

Bernadette
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I don’t know if I would go that far. We’ll probably manage to limp along and gradually recover over a number of years.

Optimistic aren’t I? :o
I’m not even a Republican, and I believe the Republican Party will regroup and come back strong in a few years. Trump has damaged it, but not irrevocably.
 
I’m not even a Republican, and I believe the Republican Party will regroup and come back strong in a few years. Trump has damaged it, but not irrevocably.
Agreed. And I would add. I think we’ll hear a lot of talk about the “Trump party”, but it like the Tea Party will ultimately be a sub-party within the GOP, not a major party in its own right.
 
Oh yes they are and the Repubs are trying to be just like them… lately, anyway!!!
That may offer an explanation of why the Republican Party is practically in shambles, if we’re willing to accept that it’s held to a higher standard than the Dems are.
 
I don’t think that the reasons he lost had as much to do with Romney choking as they did with people chosing Obama.

Identity politics work. Cleave off enough special interest groups from the population at large in a heterogeneous society, promise all sorts of entitlements for those groups, raise the fears that society at large is out to get those in your group, and people in those groups will turn out in droves to vote for you.

Romney proved to be a thoroughly decent and honest candidate. He was projected as a murderer to be feared, but nobody honestly believed that. Those were just the talking points. It somehow makes liberals feel less greedy to pretend that they are voting against evil, rather than for entitlements for themselves.
Plouffe and Axelrod got the excuse-makers (ie abortion is really all the republican’s fault so I can vote the :cool: way, I want to look good at my PTA meeting, ect) and entitled to turn out in 2012.
 
BernadetteM;13779779]Almost all the posts that I read were the most judgmental ones I have seen. I doubt that any of you actually know the candidates personally and just believe whatever our wonderful media and the establishment say.
I assure anyone that at the very least American conservatives distrust the media enormously.
Hopefully none of you will be judged by our Lord when the day comes as you have judged so many others.
Where is the judging gong on? That’s always a first a line of defense for someone who doesn’t agree—“you can’t judge me!”, even if that’s not what usually happens.
It disappoints me to see Catholics so judgmental of others. If I don’t really know a person I don’t judge them, nor believe what others say about them. In fact, that person you judged might be the person who helps you in time of need, we never know.
Charity and love is a commandment from Christ and I know that I have sinned at times, however, now that I recognize how distasteful my actions were I try not to judge without actual proof and then only the action, not the person as I don’t know what is in their heart.
Here’s the reality of life: People make assessments about people they don’t know to the fullest all the time, especially in politics. The other would be relationships which are discussed more in the Family Life Forum.

The judgement (dare I use the word here) that Catholics make regarding public office isn’t to be taken lightly, nor are the issues at hand such as abortion or a middle-aged man thinking he can use the women’s bathroom because he says he feels like a woman deep down.

So I’m sure what, exactly, the expectation is here, because no one I have seen on here is saying they know the conscience of a candidate but instead are reacting to and assessing reports and statements.

Surely, the expectation on here isn’t that we button up so tight that we cannot fulfill our role as Christians to proclaim the Gospel.

There’s also a lot of scandal in politics, and remember what John the Baptist said to the scribe and Pharisees who wanted to be Baptized just to be :cool:: he called them a brood of vipers and told them to go away until they had changed their hearts. He didn’t sit there and say “oh, well, I can’t judge you with 100% certainty, so, I guess you’re in”.

NO.

God gave us brains and good sense to figure things out.

So if anything, it’s more about rooting out excuse-making to support policies that Vatican has said over and over are unacceptable than it is about just shaking a finger and moving on.
 
Plouffe and Axelrod got the excuse-makers (ie abortion is really all the republican’s fault so I can vote the :cool: way, I want to look good at my PTA meeting, etc and entitled to turn out in 2012.
There certainly are Democratic Catholics here that are making the argument that abortion is really the Republican’s fault. While I relish discussions with people who have real disagreements with my point of view, such arguments strike me as being so dishonest that there is no point in even debating such views.
 
There certainly are Democratic Catholics here that are making the argument that abortion is really the Republican’s fault. While I relish discussions with people who have real disagreements with my point of view, such arguments strike me as being so dishonest that there is no point in even debating such views.
Crazy IMO. But then, it really seems like the GOP is getting blamed for all kinds of stuff these days.
 
That may offer an explanation of why the Republican Party is practically in shambles, if we’re willing to accept that it’s held to a higher standard than the Dems are.
I don’t think either party is held to a higher standard. There is good and bad in both.
 
I used to think Democrats (the party) cared about the people. Cared about truth and law. Then I noticed some Democrat pundits would excuse behavior of some politicians and I had to assume they were voting straight ticket. No matter what the politician said they would excuse it to vote for the Party. So, I changed to Republican because I thought they were speaking my language. They seemed to be for the rule of law. Truth, justice and the American way… not so much anymore as they roll over and give away their conservative values just to win the next election. I’m talking about the last budget… and–and so many things seem to have happened in the last 4 years especially, IRS targeting conservatives for example and nothing seems to happen. IRS gave refunds erroneously to people outside the country and oops sorry but we can’t get it back and it wasn’t just a little bit of money… and on and on… what road do we take to get America back on track? I realize we can’t do it without God. No man or woman can get us where we want to go unless God is leading the way.
 
That may offer an explanation of why the Republican Party is practically in shambles, if we’re willing to accept that it’s held to a higher standard than the Dems are.
I doubt that any reasonable person would say that Republicans are being held to – or are willing and able to follow – a ‘higher standard’ in this election cycle. To the contrary. Attacks based on the size of a candidate’s ‘hands’ or against a candidate’s wife are pretty low by any standards.
 
There certainly are Democratic Catholics here that are making the argument that abortion is really the Republican’s fault. While I relish discussions with people who have real disagreements with my point of view, such arguments strike me as being so dishonest that there is no point in even debating such views.
I’m not saying that abortion is the Republicans’ “fault.” I don’t think it’s anyone’s “fault.” I was just pointing out that a Republican Supreme Court upheld Roe v Wade and Planned Parenthood v Casey, so Republican appointed justices cannot be counted on to overturn themselves.

I think abortion is the fault of the women who make the choice to have the procedure and kill their unborn child, however, I do believe there are circumstances that can mitigate a woman’s culpability, e.g. coercion, emotional upheaval, severe economic distress, etc.
 
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