The Gospel of Judas?

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Has anyone heard about this? In it Jesus asks Judas to betray Him but warned his name name would be cursed for all ages. I heard it on the news but do not believe it. After all there were over fifty gospels written but only four were believed to be inspired.
 
This Heresy was addressed about 180 AD by Irenaeus writing in Adversus Haereses:

They declare that Judas the traitor was thoroughly acquainted with these things, and that he alone, knowing the truth as no others did, accomplished the mystery of the betrayal; by him all things, both earthly and heavenly, were thus thrown into confusion. They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas. (1.31.1)
 
Well, there you go…the Gospel of Judas was a heretical document. Not inspired. Like many of the other gnostic gospels in circualation at the time. This holds no water at all.
Therefore case is closed…
 
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Has anyone heard about this? In it Jesus asks Judas to betray Him but warned his name name would be cursed for all ages. I heard it on the news but do not believe it. After all there were over fifty gospels written but only four were believed to be inspired.
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I had’nt heard about this either, but the history channel or some channel like that is supposed to have a show on it. I didn’t see it, but I saw the advertisement for it. That was monday night, April 3.

St. Irenaeus, pray for us :gopray2:
 
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FightingFat:
Well, that seems very narrow minded to me. I think these things are fascinating. The Gnostic texts give us a real insight into the early Church and the kind of arguments that went on in the first couple of hundred years of Christianity. Further, reading around this subject has merely served to confirm my own beliefs and strengthen my understanding of Christ’s sacrifice for us. I understand why you might want to avoid these things- that’s fine. But some people will always bring up these issues, and someone needs to be prepared to address them, in context. To be ignorant of their context, content and meaning helps nothing.
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Reading such a book may be an occasion of sin for one, but not for others. Anytime I endeavor to read something that may contradict or challenge my Catholic faith, I have to honestly ask myself if my conscience is well-formed, if my faith is strong, and if I understand the writing in its proper context. In popular culture, a Christian should have a general understanding of it, otherwise I’m just saying to my friend “it’s bad, don’t read it”, which if I were in their position, I wouldn’t find convincing.
There’s a Gospel of Judas in the texts known as the Nag Hammadi library. These ‘Gnostic’ Gospels were written by a sect of hetrodox Christians who ‘channeled’ the spirit of Judas (or Thomas, or Mary Magdelene, or, indeed Jesus) and wrote a gospel account from their perspective.
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Someone mentioned the daVinci Code. The daVinci code’s writer is deliberately and admittedly fictionalizing something sacred. The so-called gospels were written by people who apparently believed what they were writing was valid. So I make a distinction between the two in the intent of the writer. Maybe it’s a personal thing, but it makes me more interested in refuting the so-called gospels for this reason. The gnostic “movement” seems more of a lasting phenomenon than the daVinci Code. However, I could be looking at it from the wrong angle.
 
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chb03c:
Wasn’t there another Judas?
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Sir Knight:
The book of Jude IS included in the Bible.
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The NT Letter of Jude begins “Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James . . .”. According to the NAB intro, it is probably not the apostle Jude (Thaddeus), but the “other Jude, named in the gospels among the relatives of Jesus (Mt 13:55, Mk 6:3), and the James who is listed there as his brother is the one to whom the Letter of James is attributed . . .”
 
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krysianka:
The NT Letter of Jude begins “Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James . . .”. According to the NAB intro, it is probably not the apostle Jude (Thaddeus), but the “other Jude, named in the gospels among the relatives of Jesus (Mt 13:55, Mk 6:3), and the James who is listed there as his brother is the one to whom the Letter of James is attributed . . .”
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I don’t know if I would trust the NAB notes on this. Tradition maintains that these “two” Judes are one and the same (e.g. Saint Jude)
 
Come on guys! When did Judas die? I suppose long enough to have disciples to write his version of what “actually” occurred. :whacky:

And now that we have his Gospel :confused: … what next? A Gospel according to Lucifer? Are we that guilible? Sheesh!!! :banghead:
 
It will shed some light on another gnostic group of the time much as the Nag Hammadi previously.

When people bring up the other christians of the time and their diversity (i.e. protestantism) often they think in terms of current christianity. The only thing similar was that there were many competing christianities, but only one unified orthodoxy. The other christianities faded away, though sometimes finding a resurgance hundreds of years later.

You would be hard pressed to find the other christianites that people wish to believe existed. Orthodoxy won out, and it was unified as one.

Looking forward to it personally.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene
 
Is this the time of “itching ears” or what?

Honestly, I’m all for an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out. 😃

In one week we are told that Jesus may have walked on ICE in the Sea of Gallilee, that there is a “missing link” found in human evolution, and finally this Gospel of Judas. Gee, Brian Williams was talking about this being a week of “biblical proportions” and breathlessly wondering how many people would find their faith shaken by all this.

My faith does not rest on whether Jesus walked on water or ICE, on whether there is some “missing link” or on an “unknown” gospel.

It rests on Christ, and His Holy Catholic Church. A foundation built on rock, to withstand the gates of hell.
 
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I don’t know if I would trust the NAB notes on this. Tradition maintains that these “two” Judes are one and the same (e.g. Saint Jude)
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I know, I barely have a toe dipped into “Scripture Study” but I know a bit about people’s problems with the NAB. As I was posting the info, I was wondering whether other commentaries indicate this. But the NAB intro made sense to me. I checked your link, it says “writer of a canonical letter”, but then the link at bottom with “Epistle of St Jude” links to the NAB, with intro!

I don’t want to hijack the thread. If anyone has any more info for me off the top of your head, feel free to PM me, that would be great.
 
Well, National Geographic’s documentary about the Gospel of Judas is on right now.

I am NOT suggesting a boycott or anything, but I wrote down as many commercial sponsors of the documentary as I could just as a point of interest for myself. I’m about to go into the other room, however, since I can’t continue subjecting myself to another minute of this junk, let alone a whole other hour. Here’s what I saw so far:
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This show is a laugher. According to it, “some experts believe Christians demonized Judas, which means Jew, because they were trying to distance them from the Jews.” In other words, Christians hate Judas because they are anti-Semitic. :rotfl:
 
Saturday morning, NPR did a short piece. And of course said “This has been validated!” Then they said, “So what are we going to think of Judas this Easter now that we have this valid gospel?”

NPR, man oh man…:rolleyes:
 
Below is a quote from Zenit
Comparing Peter and Judas

“The main difference between the two is not the nature or gravity of their sin, but rather their willingness to accept God’s mercy. Peter wept for his sins, came back to Jesus, and was pardoned. The Gospel describes Judas as hanging himself in despair”

This is the lesson for us all
 
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Marchi:
Below is a quote from Zenit
Comparing Peter and Judas

“The main difference between the two is not the nature or gravity of their sin, but rather their willingness to accept God’s mercy. Peter wept for his sins, came back to Jesus, and was pardoned. The Gospel describes Judas as hanging himself in despair”

This is the lesson for us all
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That’s a really good post! Thanks! 🙂
 
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Brian_C:
Saturday morning, NPR did a short piece. And of course said “This has been validated!” Then they said, “So what are we going to think of Judas this Easter now that we have this valid gospel?”

NPR, man oh man…:rolleyes:
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There are plenty of reasons to roll your eyes about NPR, but this isn’t one of them. The actual phrase used in the commentary was “translated from Coptic and authenticated by a reputable and highly impressed assembly of scientists and biblical scholars.” This statement is perfectly true, although the word “assembly” is a bit misleading.

But the fact that it is the authentic Gospel of Judas described by Irenaeus does not speak to its validity - whatever “validity” may mean in relation to a heretical scripture. Nor does the NPR commentary try to make that claim.

Moral: It’s easy to misquote by accident, unfortunately this leads to misrepresentation.
 
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