The green issue that dare not speak its name

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No, really–you need to have children, to help support you in your old age, and to help pay taxes to support the social security system. It would benefit everybody.
Well you know he could rely on himself. I mean you can;t say you NEED children to help support yourself…cause then what do you think people who can;t have kids do? I mean me and my husband arent planning on having kids ever…and we plan to make sure we can support ourselves even if that means working until we can;t anymore and saving up our money. And yes I realize we wonlt be contributing to the social security or more accurately our nonexistant kids wonlt be…but really I doubt one or two kids cause that is all I could possibly stand having without going completely suicidely nuts is going to make a big difference.
 
No, really–you need to have children, to help support you in your old age, and to help pay taxes to support the social security system. It would benefit everybody.
He needs to have children so he won’t leech off other people’s children in his old age.
And I am assuming you donlt say this to people that CAN:T have kids right?
 
You are perfectly free to travel to places like Myanmar or Darfur and overthrow the corrupt governments. Let me know when you are ready to go, and I will rent you an M1 rifle, and throw in a thousand rounds of .30 Caliber in en bloc clips.😛
Vern,

I’m glad to see you upped your offer on the ammo. Two bandoliers wasn’t going to get it done. 😉
 
When I was Ribeyes age we were all worried about “1984” comoing true. Turns out “Brave New World” is the mosy likely outcome for this country.

I wonder if they still teach the above two and “Animal Farm” in High School Today?
I am thinking of a Mad Max scenario.
 
Vern,

I’m glad to see you upped your offer on the ammo. Two bandoliers wasn’t going to get it done. 😉
If he lived by his own words he would need all the ammo himself while in Iraq doing what he suggest I can freely do in Myanmar. He’s also perfectly willing to spend other peoples money and lives for things he has deemed neccessary when others don’t. Such ‘freedoms’ used to be restricted to communist and other totalitarian nations because they had no laws restricting the excesses of their leaders.

The OP could get their ‘green’ solution implimented if only the ‘right’ President gets elected. Since the legislative branch is now in the habit of passing it’s legitimate authority to the executive branch, all executive decrees like war, foreign government funding, redistribution of wealth…won’t make it to the legislative branch for a decision in years/decades. Congress is just asked to increase taxes to pay for whatever the ‘dear leader’ decides he wants to do. The judicial branch has been making law for decades so having them decide if something is legal or not has become a ****-shoot. Roe is a great example, but so is the Patriot Act and the Military Commisions Act.

Let’s just hope you like the next king elected in America.
 
If he lived by his own words he would need all the ammo himself while in Iraq doing what he suggest I can freely do in Myanmar. He’s also perfectly willing to spend other peoples money and lives for things he has deemed neccessary when others don’t. Such ‘freedoms’ used to be restricted to communist and other totalitarian nations because they had no laws restricting the excesses of their leaders.

The OP could get their ‘green’ solution implimented if only the ‘right’ President gets elected. Since the legislative branch is now in the habit of passing it’s legitimate authority to the executive branch, all executive decrees like war, foreign government funding, redistribution of wealth…won’t make it to the legislative branch for a decision in years/decades. Congress is just asked to increase taxes to pay for whatever the ‘dear leader’ decides he wants to do. The judicial branch has been making law for decades so having them decide if something is legal or not has become a ****-shoot. Roe is a great example, but so is the Patriot Act and the Military Commisions Act.

Let’s just hope you like the next king elected in America.
From what I’ve read on this site, Vern has served his country in the armed forces. He’s put his money where his mouth is. We should honor his service.

Democracy is alive and well in the U.S. Did you miss the last election where the Republicans lost Congress to the Democrats?

Congress has the authority to de-fund any Presidential activity each year.

God Bless
 
I shouldn’t even say the following, because it will make people think I’m nuts, but the intermediate future won’t be “Mad Max” or “Animal Farm” or any of those things. Some or all of the following seem much more likely to me.
  1. It will be largely wireless. Hate to tell you, but most of the energy you use will be contained in rental units of nuclear material right there in your yard; serviced and maintained by the energy company. It will be less deadly than the transmission lines you go under every day. All communication will be wireless.
  2. Oil will be cheaper because it will be little used for fuel, and genetically-engineered algaes will provide most of it anyway. Kerogen will supply the finer oils used for delicate machinery.
  3. Natural gas will be cheaper because it will be a supplemental energy source for making fertilizer, and not much more.
  4. Grain will be cheaper as bioengineering compresses what would otherwise be millions of years of evolution into a few years. Desirable species will thus outdistance those biological predatory species that rely on “natural selection”.
  5. The only place in the Middle East where there will be any prosperity will be the Israeli/Palestinian/Lebanese common market. It will not happen without years more of struggle. Food, however, will be inexpensive throughout the Middle East as Israeli, Palestinian and Lebanese engineers set up slatted energy/food plants in the deserts, paid for by the last barrels of oil.
  6. China will once again revert to an extremely socialist state, as younger workers will be barely sufficient to support the aging population, and will have to be forced to do it. Filipino and Myanmar immigrants will not suffice to make up for the birth dearth either there or in Japan, though women from all over the world will be highly sought by the overwhelmingly male population of China. Chinese and Japanese racism will inevitably give way to this imperative. Importation will not suffice and the Chinese government will begin forcing couples to have at least one girl for every male child born. Tibet will become the anthropological museum piece it has always wanted to be, as Han Chinese finally give it up and return to less hostile climates. Central Asia and Siberia will not be called “terra incognita”, though they will be that in all but name. They will be a popular resource for adventurers and nature lovers, though wild animals will eat a fair number of them each year.
  7. The U.S. population will be almost entirely Catholic; descended from those faithful Catholics who had “more children than they should”, and Evangelicals who converted in huge numbers, as Flannery O’Connor predicted they would. It will be one of the few thriving countries in the world, outside India and Africa.
  8. Vast areas of American desert will be covered with slatted solar panels, sharing space with vast, slatted algae farms. Underneath will be “drip irrigation”-watered food plants that do best with filtered shade. The electricity will be transmitted to West Coast desalinazation facilities and nitrate recovery plants, as well as to water pumps mentioned in #9 below.
  9. Excess water from the Midwest will be piped through inexpensive fused silicon-compound pipes, to recharge overused aquifers in the west and provide for desert “drip irrigation” and algae farming. Contamination will not be a problem because the water will be irradiated on the trip.
  10. It will be routine for people to grow their own “spare body parts” by genetically-directed stem cells taken from their own bodies. Embryonic stem cell research will be abandoned as a scientific “dead end”.
  11. Math and Memory chips implanted in the brain will be outlawed because no way will be found to consciously “override” their operation when intuition would serve better, and the hazards of “acquired autism” will be recognized.
  12. Because of the “demographic winter” that will occur nearly everywhere but in the U.S., people will fear a repeat just as they feared the Great Depression and the Black Death. Abortion will be outlawed, and a “Fair Tax” system with rebates for child-related and other necessities will allow mothers to be with their children during child-rearing years. Home schooling, aided by telecasts, will become pervasive.
  13. Much of university education will also be by telecast, and just in the nick of time, as it will become so expensive as to be out of the reach of almost everyone. The best buildings of existing universities will, however, remain for ceremonial functions like graduations for those who wish to actually go to them.
  14. A Slavic “lingua franca” will become the language of Europe as Balkan, Baltic and Russian people pour into Western Europe, far outnumbering Middle Eastern immigrants who, by then, will have no foreign support.
  15. Some people will be issuing dire warnings that we will soon run out of silicon. There is only so much sand and rock, after all.
 
From what I’ve read on this site, Vern has served his country in the armed forces. He’s put his money where his mouth is. We should honor his service.
Yes, and he has the bullet holes to prove it. BFD

I served as well 21 years ago. What I have to show for it is 6 years of service and an Honorable Discharge with zero ill-will toward the US military. No bullet holes though so my opinion doesn’t rate with Vern. I was enlisted and served without seeing combat, so Vern dismisses my foreign policy views out of hand. The schools I went to were technical~ I was a mechanic, I fixed airplanes instead of learning how to kill people directly so my reasoning that Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution; that if Congress does not declare war as required by law, war is not waged is naive and/or ill conceived according to the resident war hero. He read some manuals. He told me to read some, but he never says which ones. The art of side stepping the law (Congressional responsibility) for political theater is disingenuous in my view but not uncommon to politcis and just because it happens with fair regularity does not make something right. Abortion is as ‘good’ as war as examples.

My father and two brothers served. One saw combat- the others didn’t. Millions of people have served in the US military. Some saw combat. Some were enlisted. Some did well and others didn’t just as some died and others didn’t. I have nephews serving now in theater 6 years after the atacks…

We served at the direction of civilian policy, being politically neutral to its intent or action while in uniform. All that served honorably deserve equal honor. The enlisted cook that feeds the captain that runs the motor pool did his part just as the combat soldier does theirs.

Arguing civilian policy has zero to do with the military doing it’s will. Our President cannot act like Pakistans or Egypts Presidents. Our Congress has made them near equal because they do not follow the law. IF I must follow the law- so must the law makers.
Democracy is alive and well in the U.S. Did you miss the last election where the Republicans lost Congress to the Democrats?
Democracy is not so great. 51% are the master to the 49%. Individual liberty and limited federal government is better. We have it in our Constitution but we squander it. There is very little difference between the two parties and with a consistantly low approval rating a ‘victory’ is suspect for the average American.
Congress has the authority to de-fund any Presidential activity each year.
God Bless
Which proves the point that the two parties are two sides of the same coin.
When Congress declares war they appropriate money for the ‘armies’ for a period of two years then they either re-authorize the war or end it. Since they gave the President to use force at his discretion and not a formal declaration of war the funding requests are done multiple times a year as part of the overal budget. Neither party in the legislative branch will force the President to abide by the law because they want one of their own to be king with those sweeping powers that have been aquired into the office of the President over the years.

Congress could pass the Sanctity of Life Act…but won’t bring it to a vote.
Congress could set aside Roe V Wade right this minute…but hasn’t for over 30years.
Congress could do the will of the American people instead of the UN, but understandably they have been busy talking to MLB players about drugs, while prohibiting Americans from going outside the HMO for prescription drugs. I think they want to collect the tax on the steroids. Taking human growth hormones is ok as long as you aren’t in professional sports making millions…

Instead of another war the next ‘threat’ might be a food shortage. Congress will give the President unlimited Authortization to use the OP’s “Green” solution to save America!
 
two of my favorite dystopian sci-fi movies!

“Logan’s Run” I’ve not seen - “Soylent Green” could have been a much better film (I think). The premise was a thought-provoking one; but the execution of it was mediocre 😦 If it had been even twenty minutes longer, & less claustrophobic, it would have been twice the film it is.​

 
Aw, man, I don’t wanna live in Texas!!

Can I have my 1000 sq ft in Newfoundland?
No. Newfoundland is going to be used to store the world supply of Snickers bars (since we certainly won’t have room for all of them in Texas along with all the peoples).
 
No. Newfoundland is going to be used to store the world supply of Snickers bars (since we certainly won’t have room for all of them in Texas along with all the peoples).
Weeeellll… someone has to guard all them Snickers bars…and since I don’t really *like *them…:hmmm:

'Tain’t NO way NO how I’m moving to Texas. It’s full of scorpions and Gila monsters and poisonous snakes and heat and really big belt buckles.

And what happens if I don’t remember the Alamo? 😦
 
Your great-grandfather came from Newfoundland? 👍

But why oh why did he leave? :confused:

Lemme guess – no jobs. 🤷
His father came to Newfoundland in 1836, forasby the British held a grudge against him over a boyish prank involving some British troops, a bridge and a large quantity of gunpowder.

When his boys were about half grown, he moved to Prince Edward Island. From there the family came to the states. My great-grandfather got a job in the Roosevelt shipyard, and the rest of the family went to California to look for gold.

My great grandfather was drafted during the Civl War, was finally discharged in Galveston, Texas. There was a yellow fever epidemic raging, so he went to the Piney Woods of South Louisiana and established his own shipyard there.
 
And I am assuming you donlt say this to people that CAN:T have kids right?
No, I say this to holier-than-thou people who are full of demands that other people pay for grandiose programs, including their retirement, but who don’t even have jobs.
 
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And what happens if I don’t remember the Alamo?

Baby Jesus cries.
Yeah, well, that and you get assaulted by Texans for pronouncing it, “A-LAY-moe”.

Be safe. Prevent your tears and those of Baby Jesus! Remember the Alamo.
 
Yeah, well, that and you get assaulted by Texans for pronouncing it, “A-LAY-moe”.

Be safe. Prevent your tears and those of Baby Jesus! Remember the Alamo.
I have an aunt who divorced my uncle and remarried. My cousin was adopted by her second husband, a man named Billingsly, who is a descendant of Jesse Billingsly.

And you know what Jesse Billingsly said.😉
 
I have an aunt who divorced my uncle and remarried. My cousin was adopted by her second husband, a man named Billingsly, who is a descendant of Jesse Billingsly.

And you know what Jesse Billingsly said.😉
No, actually. I’m having enough troubling remembering the, uh, er…ALAMO! Yeah, that’s the ticket! 👍

So what did Uncle Jesse say?
 
And remeber what those at the alamo said?

“Where did all those mexicans come from”?!
They knew:
COMMANDANCY OF THE ALAMO,
BEXAR, February 24, 1836.
FELLOW-CITIZENS AND COMPATRIOTS :
I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna. I have sustained a continued bombardment for twenty-four hours, and have not lost a man. The enemy have demanded a surrender at discretion ; otherwise the garrison is to be put to the sword, if the place is taken. I have answered the summons with a cannon-shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat.
Then I call on you in the name of liberty, of patriotism, and of everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid with all despatch. The enemy are receiving reinforcements daily, and will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days.
Though this call may be neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible, and die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor and that of his country. Victory or death!
W. BARRET TRAVIS,
Lieutenant-Colonel commanding.
P. S.—The Lord is on our side. When the enemy appeared in sight, we had not three bushels of corn. We have since found, in deserted houses, eighty or ninety bushels, and got into the walls twenty or thirty head of beeves. “T”
Trivia question: What flag waved proudly from the walls? Where is it today?
 
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