The Homosexual Agenda

[InSearchofGrace]

Fellow Catholics,

In attending Mass this Sunday, I noted the themes of the second reading and gospel as timely and appropriate for this thread:

Reading 2
2 Tm 3:14-4:2

Beloved:
Remain faithful to what you have learned and believed,
because you know from whom you learned it,
and that from infancy you have known the sacred Scriptures,
which are capable of giving you wisdom for salvation
through faith in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is inspired by God
and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction,
and for training in righteousness,
so that one who belongs to God may be competent,
equipped for every good work.

I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus,
who will judge the living and the dead,
and by his appearing and his kingly power:
proclaim the word;
be persistent whether it is convenient or inconvenient;
convince, reprimand, encourage through all patience and teaching.

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[InSearchofGrace]

Gospel Reading for this Sunday’s Mass:
Lk 18:1-8

Jesus told his disciples a parable
about the necessity for them to pray always without becoming weary.
He said, “There was a judge in a certain town
who neither feared God nor respected any human being.
And a widow in that town used to come to him and say,
‘Render a just decision for me against my adversary.’
For a long time the judge was unwilling, but eventually he thought,
‘While it is true that I neither fear God nor respect any human being,
because this widow keeps bothering me
I shall deliver a just decision for her
lest she finally come and strike me.’”
The Lord said, “Pay attention to what the dishonest judge says.
Will not God then secure the rights of his chosen ones
who call out to him day and night?
Will he be slow to answer them?
I tell you, he will see to it that justice is done for them speedily.
But when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

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Fellow Catholics,

Jesus spoke in a parable to his disciples, admonishing them to pray always, without becoming weary.

While the gospel is not about gay unions, it is about the temporal power of the judge.

If the gay marriage issue is to be in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court, let us pray hard that at least five out of the nine justices rule in favor of a just decision, that is, traditional marriage, not gay marriage, which is being forced by the homosexual agenda to be the law of the land.

This linked article, Gay Marriage in the Hands of Nine Justices?, suggests that it might be Judge Anthony Kennedy who could play a key role.

In 2003, it was Judge Scalia on the Lawrence et al v Texas case who said:

“Today’s opinion it the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.”

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[larkin31]

Gospel Reading for this Sunday’s Mass:
Lk 18:1-8

Jesus told his disciples a parable
about the necessity for them to pray always without becoming weary.
He said, “There was a judge in a certain town
who neither feared God nor respected any human being.
And a widow in that town used to come to him and say,
‘Render a just decision for me against my adversary.’
For a long time the judge was unwilling, but eventually he thought,
‘While it is true that I neither fear God nor respect any human being,
because this widow keeps bothering me
I shall deliver a just decision for her
lest she finally come and strike me.’”
The Lord said, “Pay attention to what the dishonest judge says.
Will not God then secure the rights of his chosen ones
who call out to him day and night?
Will he be slow to answer them?
I tell you, he will see to it that justice is done for them speedily.
But when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

---

Fellow Catholics,

Jesus spoke in a parable to his disciples, admonishing them to pray always, without becoming weary.

While the gospel is not about gay unions, it is about the temporal power of the judge.

If the gay marriage issue is to be in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court, let us pray hard that at least five out of the nine justices rule in favor of a just decision, that is, traditional marriage, not gay marriage, which is being forced by the homosexual agenda to be the law of the land.

This linked article, Gay Marriage in the Hands of Nine Justices?, suggests that it might be Judge Anthony Kennedy who could play a key role.

In 2003, it was Judge Scalia on the Lawrence et al v Texas case who said:

“Today’s opinion it the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.”

. . . . . .

I hope that you will pray to alleviate hatred, injustice, violence, poverty, bullying, bigotry, depression, pain, and unnecessary and early disease and death that plague people in the billions. If I were prioritizing the threats to this country and its future, even in heaven, I would put private sexual morality between consenting adults waaaaaaaaay down my list of concerns for appealing to God for assistance.

But that is liberal me.

 

[InSearchofGrace]

As follow up to Buffalo’s post mentioning the upcoming vote, I attached a news link with a discussion of the notable races in New York, California, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Minnesotta, mentioning candidates who are for and against gay marriage.

Gay Marriage Debate Still Roils Some Campaigns

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[latin_rite]

Question. Homosexuality is supposed to be gentic. But homosexuals can not breed, so how do they pass on that gene?

 

[Seeker2010]

Question. Homosexuality is supposed to be gentic. But homosexuals can not breed, so how do they pass on that gene?

Down’s syndrome is unquestionably genetic. Know many down’s patients whose parents also have down’s? It’s called a ‘recessive trait’, and google is your friend.

 

[larkin31]

Question. Homosexuality is supposed to be gentic. But homosexuals can not breed, so how do they pass on that gene?

You need to read a basic text in genetics and gene expression. There is no requirement that parents carry the same gene (if it were only one gene) for it to appear in an offspring. Furthermore, there are other biological factors in the development of animals and neural and hormonal and sexual behaviors. No one has ever claimed that it all simply comes down to “a gene.” This has NOT been determined, nor for heterosexuality.

So, read something more on the research around homosexuality and genetic studies also. There is no single “that gene”, so your answer even has a false supposition in it.

 

[latin_rite]

So if it isn’t genetic. It mustn’t be a natural. So why do people say that homosexuality is natural?

 

[John21652]

I hope that you will pray to alleviate hatred, injustice, violence, poverty, bullying, bigotry, depression, pain, and unnecessary and early disease and death that plague people in the billions. If I were prioritizing the threats to this country and its future, even in heaven, I would put private sexual morality between consenting adults waaaaaaaaay down my list of concerns for appealing to God for assistance.

But that is liberal me.

Here goes larkin 32 once again justifying his support for a one wrong by pointing out the existence of other wrongs. Not only is he destroying the concept of logic, in the process he is strectching our credulity to the maximum. Larkin, we are not possessed of such naivety. Your response to In SearchOfGrace contains the gross assumption that because InSearchofGrace prays against homosexuality that he/she is not praying for the alleviation of the other ‘wrongs’ you list. See what I mean about logic?

By the way, I am still waiting for a response from you to my post #299, other than an attempt at sidetracking us with an irrelevant question. You don’t have the answers to the Natural Law arguments, do you? That’s probably because the liberal you is trashing morality through the destruction of reason. Reason should tell you that a society bereft of a common morality will not find the will to alleviate the ‘wrongs’ you list.

 

[Seeker2010]

So if it isn’t genetic. It mustn’t be a natural. So why do people say that homosexuality is natural?

You’re not listening, nor are you comprehending what you’ve been told.

Left handed children can be born of two right handed persons. Retarded children can be born of two normal persons. Recessive traits require the inheritance of, at a minimum, a recessive gene from both parents, in some cases multiple recessive genes.

And if it turns out homosexuality actually isn’t genetic, that doesn’t change anything.

Being a physicist isn’t genetic, nor is it (statistically) common, but I don’t see you (or anyone else) arguing that just because it’s unusual and learned that it is by definition immoral. Or unnatural.

 

[John21652]

You’re not listening, nor are you comprehending what you’ve been told.

Left handed children can be born of two right handed persons. Retarded children can be born of two normal persons. Recessive traits require the inheritance of, at a minimum, a recessive gene from both parents, in some cases multiple recessive genes.

And if it turns out homosexuality actually isn’t genetic, that doesn’t change anything.

Being a physicist isn’t genetic, nor is it (statistically) common, but I don’t see you (or anyone else) arguing that just because it’s unusual and learned that it is by definition immoral. Or unnatural.

False. There are arguments galore back through this thread which show exactly why homosexuality is unnatural, disordered and morally wrong. It is you who are not ‘listening’, nor comprehending.

 

[edwest2]

Question. Homosexuality is supposed to be gentic. But homosexuals can not breed, so how do they pass on that gene?

There is zero scientific evidence that supports homosexuality being a genetic issue.

God bless,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

You’re not listening, nor are you comprehending what you’ve been told.

Left handed children can be born of two right handed persons. Retarded children can be born of two normal persons. Recessive traits require the inheritance of, at a minimum, a recessive gene from both parents, in some cases multiple recessive genes.

And if it turns out homosexuality actually isn’t genetic, that doesn’t change anything.

Being a physicist isn’t genetic, nor is it (statistically) common, but I don’t see you (or anyone else) arguing that just because it’s unusual and learned that it is by definition immoral. Or unnatural.

The issue of handedness is nonsensical. I know a person that was left handed who taught herself to write with her right hand. She can now use both hands to write with equal skill. A physicist or doctor or electrician chooses his profession and if he is diligent and perseveres, gets to do work in his field. Intention is behind every act we do.

God bless,
Ed

 

[larkin31]

Here goes larkin 32 once again justifying his support for a one wrong by pointing out the existence of other wrongs. Not only is he destroying the concept of logic, in the process he is strectching our credulity to the maximum. Larkin, we are not possessed of such naivety. Your response to In SearchOfGrace contains the gross assumption that because InSearchofGrace prays against homosexuality that he/she is not praying for the alleviation of the other ‘wrongs’ you list.

I am not assuming this at all. Just expressing a hope. And then I put my priorities out there clearly for everyone to see.

By the way, I am still waiting for a response from you to my post #299, other than an attempt at sidetracking us with an irrelevant question. You don’t have the answers to the Natural Law arguments, do you? That’s probably because the liberal you is trashing morality through the destruction of reason. Reason should tell you that a society bereft of a common morality will not find the will to alleviate the ‘wrongs’ you list.

Which question was that? I answer every question that I think has merit. Go ahead and ask it again here, and I will see if I overlooked it or dismissed it and let you know which.

 

[larkin31]

False. There are arguments galore back through this thread which show exactly why homosexuality is unnatural, disordered and morally wrong. It is you who are not ‘listening’, nor comprehending.

Persons have made this CLAIM, but no one on this thread has made ANY such ARGUMENT.

 

[larkin31]

So if it isn’t genetic. It mustn’t be a natural. So why do people say that homosexuality is natural?

How did you conclude from our responses that “it isn’t genetic”? Do you understand genes and gene expression? Do you understand amino acids and protein synthesis? Do you understand the regulatory processes of genetic expression? Do you understand genetic change?

 

[PetersKeys]

This is precisely true. As someone who works in the media I’ve watched the whole social engineering project unfold. The TV, not mom or dad, will guide your kids. It will portray meaningless sex as good, cohabitation with sex as good. And all those movies where people live together but are soooo happy!! Yep, boys and girls, when you grow up, just pick a guy or girl, live with them, and when they get to be not fun anymore, just let them go, and move on to the next person.It’s not like the two of you were married or anything.

And gays, they just want to have a little fun. What’s the big deal?

God Forbid,

Ed

oh man. How I’ve heard that so many times by liberal drones. “Who cares what they do in bed” "Whats the big deal " “Your a bigot” “Your intolerant”

and of course when their promiscuous daughters start popping out their illegitimate children with the father no where to be found and goto uncle sam for help from MY tax money to help them, then that of course is all good. I wonder how those shows “Secret life of an American Teenager” will have helped them out then when all the guys they have slept with have used them as tissues and their stuck alone. Maybe then they think of that person who was trying to defend to dignity of marriage and modesty a while ago who was being called a bigot and intolerant by herself and her liberal drone friends. Only then it will be too late.

Meanwhile 1 out of 2 people divorce and the western world has the highest rate of marital problems than of any other part of the world. And yet people have the nerve to ask why Christians are so concerned about the weakened state of marriage as it is today…

 

[latin_rite]

How did you conclude from our responses that “it isn’t genetic”? Do you understand genes and gene expression? Do you understand amino acids and protein synthesis? Do you understand the regulatory processes of genetic expression? Do you understand genetic change?

So it is genetic?.So my original question still stands. If homosexuality is genetic. And homosexuals by nature don’t have sex with opposite sex. Then they can’t breed. So how do they pass on the gay gene? Or how do they get the “gay” gene? If indeed it happens to be a regressive gene. It is either gentic or learned. If it is learned it is not natural. If it is genetic. How do they get the gene?

 

[John21652]

Persons have made this CLAIM, but no one on this thread has made ANY such ARGUMENT.

False again. You don’t have the moral courage to face these arguments, but simply gloss over or past them and your responses at best are condescending and at worst, puerile. I’m still waiting on a response to post #299.

 

[John21652]

How did you conclude from our responses that “it isn’t genetic”? Do you understand genes and gene expression? Do you understand amino acids and protein synthesis? Do you understand the regulatory processes of genetic expression? Do you understand genetic change?

Are you trying to tell us that homosexuality is an anomolous genetic throwback? If so, what to? Some earlier cercopithecoid whose direct ancestors use sex as a bargaining and a social organising tool and who mainly live in trees?