The horrible lack of protection in U.S prsions

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RCIAGraduate said:
While I feel that providing a college education may be seen as unfair, providing vocational schooling, literacy lessons and teaching trades all seem like sensible policies (though the jobs outside of prison have to exist).
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I remember a relative of mine, back in the early 1990s, he used to always say " no matter how much trouble you get into, they can never take away training or education", I was in a wild time in my life at that time, I was partying alot, not really doing illegal things, but heading down a bad road with alcohol, girls, drugs, etc. He was trying to tell me, if I ever got into legal trouble, if I had some kind of training or education, getting a decent job would never be a problem.

However this was before background checks, while it is true, they cannot ever take away ones schooling or training, if you learn to repair big trucks, you will always have this knowledge…BUT, they have found a way to take away ones ability TO USE that training, so even though you know how to repair big trucks, because you got convicted of something 15 years ago, no company will ever hire you to do that work, thats pretty low and sneaky imo.
 
mikekle said:
Wouldnt that be in everyones best interest?
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Yes. The war on drugs has seen many failed initiatives that have done great harm and no good. No business, except government would ever stick to an endeavor that was such a monumental failure.
 
Jake21 said:
Humanity lacks in our prisons. A huge amount of assault and murder that takes place in this advanced country’s prisons is both preventable and disgusting. We shouldn’t be surprised since most of our prisons only have a handful of corecction officers per every few 100 inmates. If they see a decent sized fight take place, which is rare, they call in a team which usually arrive after some serious injuries occur. I believe that any one who has a decent moral compass and a sense of humanity should support significantly more correction officers who are armed with a sufficient amount of non lethal weapons. Imagine if every single area in the prison had multiple guards 24/7 armed with personalized assault weapons and pistols that fire rubber bullets, tasers, batons, and pepper spray. By the way, when I say “personalized” guns I mean technologically advanced guns that only fire in the hands of the officer. Anyway, if this was a reality in our prisons, then no inmate in their right mind would attack another inmate unless he was in the mood to revive some very nasty bruises from some non lethal rubber bullets. I don’t see why the rate of violence wouldn’t dramatically decrease if this was the case. I sincerely hope that you guys will make use of the Catholic Churches teaching on physical self defence and the defence of others and encourage some serious prison reform for the sake of humanity and safety of our guards and prisoners. The teaching of loving your enemy’s is also relevant when examining this issue in the U.S. prisons. I feel that there is such a disgusting lack of love and sympathy for these inmates. I could care less how horrible there crime was. NO ONE DESERVES THIS LACK OF PROTECTION! PERIOD.
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Much of the problem is that there is an implicit assumption that time in prison should be miserable, and that the people who are there deserve as harsh a treatment as possible (i.e. jokes about prison rape when a person is sentenced, even for minor crimes). I think it’s reflective of the overall degenerate tone of our society. One hundred years ago, every attempt was made to make prisons into a place of reform, whatever the end results were. Now, we don’t even bother with lip service to that idea, and strictly look at prisons as being a place of punishment, not at least trying to “fix” what is wrong with people and stop the cycle of criminal behavior (yeah, I know that some prisoners reform, but with a recidivism rate around 66%, it’s not a great picture).
 
jc4751 said:
Much of the problem is that there is an implicit assumption that time in prison should be miserable, and that the people who are there deserve as harsh a treatment as possible (i.e. jokes about prison rape when a person is sentenced, even for minor crimes). I think it’s reflective of the overall degenerate tone of our society. One hundred years ago, every attempt was made to make prisons into a place of reform, whatever the end results were. Now, we don’t even bother with lip service to that idea, and strictly look at prisons as being a place of punishment, not at least trying to “fix” what is wrong with people and stop the cycle of criminal behavior (yeah, I know that some prisoners reform, but with a recidivism rate around 66%, it’s not a great picture).
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Very true, important to remember, decades ago, one could serve their sentence and come out with a ‘clean slate’ and start over if they truly wanted to change their lives, thats not possible today, mainly because of background checks and other regulations on former inmates, they are basically held to their crime for the rest of their lives, whether it comes to finding a job, a place to live, even getting insurance for a vehicle.

If someone cannot find a job or a place to live, what do they expect the results to be? Of course they are going to commit crimes.

I believe after so long, things should come off criminal records, once you reach 18, any crime you commit will remain there for LIFE!!! That is ridiculous. I actually have this problem, I was arrested when I was 18 after being pulled over with friends and beer was found in the car, I am 41 yrs old now and had to go thru a very intensive background check for my current job, the person hiring me actually laughed about this, could not believe something like this was still on my record. I could get it expunged, but it cost money and that offense hasnt really caused me any problems, but it should come off automatically after so long.
 
A convict can’t get car insurance? I call bunk on this.

In many states (including the one I live in), to be licensed as an insurer the insurer must agree to write a car insurance policy for literally every applicant. Can the insurer charge different rates? Sure. Can they refuse to issue a policy? Nope, illegal to do that.

Provide some authoritative verification for your claim or else please stop running your mouth about something you have no knowledge of - which is a problem rampant on this board and this thread in particular.
 
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