The Idle Tale - Luke 24:11

[MHalsey]

**The Scriptures state! Which Scriptures your private Scriptures? Definitely not the Scriptures that Jesus used to handle, but Scripture that Jesus himself never dreamed would come about, 30 years after he had been gone.

That’s an antisemitic lie that the Jews killed Jesus. It makes no sense to anyone but only to the anti-Semite. There is nothing more important in the life of a Jew than the Law that Jesus came to confirm and preserve. (Mat. 5:17-19)

The Jews would never kill or deliver to the occupiers of our Land, a Jew like Jesus. There was never in the Jews of Jesus’ time hatred of Jesus. If there is any hatred is today in the hearts of Christians who insist on perpetuating the antisemitic lie that the Jews killed Jesus.

That’s a shame that Christians, and specially Catholics refuse to confirm the words of their own Pope John 23rd, that the time has arrived to stop lying with the false antisemitic accusation that Jews killed Jesus. I am sorry but I had to express my protest against this hatred that just seems not to want to die.

Ben: **

And perpetuation of the lies continue.

Assumptions! A gospel of assumptions.

Ben, your argument that the New Testament is false, or 20% is true, because the gospels were written by a desciple of Paul, is similar to the muslim argument that the Bible is corrupted. An example is their belief that Abraham actually was going to sacrifice Ishmael, not Isaac. And like I have said to the muslims when they make this kind of claim, until you can provide any proof for your claim, no one should listen to it. Your claim is based on assumptions. Yes, I’m sorry, you cannot use the “I’m a Jew, so I know more about the Jews than you.” argument. This is patently false. So in the vein of your last quote above, I will state it again, yours is a argument of assumptions.

God Bless!!

 

[Bill_Pick]

Assumptions! A gospel of assumptions.

Is old Ben so confued he is now shouting,shame on you Ben.If its to hot in the kitchen you may time to get out,smile

 

[Lapell]

**That’s normal. When we are kids we are fed with kid stuff. When we grow and become adults, we must get used to things of grown up people.

Ben: **

Maybe, but this teaching has stayed with me ever since.

 

[Lapell]

**So, why people keep blaming the Jews for having killed Jesus? Why did the Pope John 23rd find need to apologize to the Jewish People for the antisemitic false accusation of almost two thousand years that the Jews have killed Jesus? There must be something that still remains. And I think the word is Jealousy.

Ben: **

And there is still something that remains among the Jews to try to discredit the Church from time to time. And I think the word is Jealousy!

 

[Lapell]

And there is still something that remains among the Jews to try to discredit the Church from time to time. And I think the word is Jealousy!

Actually, it’s not all the Jews, far from it. Just as it’s not all the members of the Church who are antisemites, far from it… even though there has been many!
There have been even Jews among the antisemites. I doubt these were as many!!

 

[djconklin]

Assumptions! A gospel of assumptions.

Evidence is not an assumption–I note the lack of proof for your claim–quite typical of your posts.

 

[Ben_Masada]

Evidence is not an assumption–I note the lack of proof for your claim–quite typical of your posts.

And I notice the lack of knowledge of your own NT quite typical of your posts.

 

[Ben_Masada]

Maybe, but this teaching has stayed with me ever since.

Perhaps because you have never grown up.

 

[Ben_Masada]

Ben, your argument that the New Testament is false, or 20% is true, because the gospels were written by a desciple of Paul, is similar to the muslim argument that the Bible is corrupted. An example is their belief that Abraham actually was going to sacrifice Ishmael, not Isaac. And like I have said to the muslims when they make this kind of claim, until you can provide any proof for your claim, no one should listen to it. Your claim is based on assumptions. Yes, I’m sorry, you cannot use the “I’m a Jew, so I know more about the Jews than you.” argument. This is patently false. So in the vein of your last quote above, I will state it again, yours is a argument of assumptions.

God Bless!!

I will accept that mine is an argument of assumptions after you prove to me the Ascension of Mary.

 

[djconklin]

Evidence is not an assumption–I note the lack of proof for your claim–quite typical of your posts.

And I notice the lack of knowledge of your own NT quite typical of your posts.

Said the one who can’t remember his own posts!

 

[Ben_Masada]

Actually, it’s not all the Jews, far from it. Just as it’s not all the members of the Church who are antisemites, far from it… even though there has been many!
There have been even Jews among the antisemites. I doubt these were as many!!

**As you can see, we still have “Judases” today. I agree with you about even Jews among the anti-Semites, especially those who have left Judaism and still think
they can keep the connection.

Ben: **

 

[Lapell]

Perhaps because you have never grown up.

You don’t know what you are saying, Ben! You have no respect at all for a person’s religious experience, have you? You meant to insult me, didn’t you ?

 

[djconklin]

You don’t know what you are saying, Ben! You have no respect at all for a person’s religious experience, have you? You meant to insult me, didn’t you ?

That’s normal for Ben.

 

[Lapell]

I guess, Ben, that you must think that you were appointed a judge by the Lord Almighty Himself… Except that you are not speaking like one appointed by Him. :tsktsk:
Please be more careful in the future.

 

[Lapell]

**As you can see, we still have “Judases” today. I agree with you about even Jews among the anti-Semites, especially those who have left Judaism and still think
they can keep the connection.

Ben: **

I thought even those who are not observant Jews are Jews, that even atheists Jews were considered Jews!

 

[Lapell]

I agree with you, though, that antisemite Jews, even those not practicing Judaism, are indeed an embarrassment. mad:

 

[Lapell]

**That’s normal. When we are kids we are fed with kid stuff. When we grow and become adults, we must get used to things of grown up people.

Ben: **

I am sure that that is some stuff you received as a kid that you still treasure in your adult life, Ben. Some stuff for “grown-ups” can be taught in simple words for the kids. I’m sure you must have received some such stuff when you were prepared for your Passover seder or when you had your Sabbath meal with the lighting of candles and so forth…

 

[Ben_Masada]

I thought even those who are not observant Jews are Jews, that even atheists Jews were considered Jews!

**They are. Albeit nominally, they are. One loses his or her Jewishness when he or she confesses loyalty to another religion. Jewishness is not ethnicity. It can be lost in more than one way.

Ben: **

 

[Ben_Masada]

You don’t know what you are saying, Ben! You have no respect at all for a person’s religious experience, have you? You meant to insult me, didn’t you ?

**I do apologize. I thought I was rather saying something funny. If you took as an offense, please accept my apologies. It won’t happen again.

Ben: **

 

[wolfgang]

…And about the spear-piercing, I recommend you to read my thread, “No spear-piercing at Jesus’ side.” I explain there why the Romans would never have done that. Ben:

You mean the one that is titled My Opinion: No Piercing At Jesus’ Side? It is your opinion and, yes, I believe you are entitled to your opinion and beliefs - as am I.