The King James Version?

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po18guy said:
This is an odd, modern translation, that is opposed to Saint Jerome’s translation in the Latin Vulgate, as well as the Douay-Rheims and even the King James version. I see it as clearly modernized, and tending to reduce scriptural evidence behind both the Catholic/Orthodox priesthood, as well as the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

As well, the modern wording seems redundant, since we are members of Christ’s Body, He is always present, right? As well, we are temples of the Holy Spirit. Is it not much more likely that Paul actually forgave in the person of Christ - “in persona Christi” as the Vulgate puts it? After all, the Church teaches that the Priesthood acts in persona Christi.
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If the Church approves of it, it isn’t “odd”. Take it up with the Church, not me. I stand by the fact that it is a more literal translation of 2 Corinthians 2 :10
 
This bible study at the bagel shop will be at 6:00 AM tomorrow morning, and it’s a new parish for me and all new friends. I’m going to chicken out and leave my NKJV at home.

I’m going to start with my NIV Disciple’s Study Bible. That way there will be plenty if foot notes at the bottom of each page for me to check up on them.
 
johndoe100 said:
This bible study at the bagel shop will be at 6:00 AM tomorrow morning, and it’s a new parish for me and all new friends. I’m going to chicken out and leave my NKJV at home.

I’m going to start with my NIV Disciple’s Study Bible. That way there will be plenty if foot notes at the bottom of each page for me to check up on them.
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Boy, that is a tossup between those two! Look on eBay or a used book store. A solid Catholic bible can be had almost for a song. Yet, any bible is better than no bible.
 
johndoe100 said:
Now that many of the Anglican Church members have joined Rome, is the King James Version of Bible acceptable at Catholic bible studies?
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The King James I and II are the best Bibles I have ever read if they’re not acceptable at Catholic Bible studies there’s something wrong with the Bible studies. The Latin Vulgate in English is an excellent Bible also and frankly if those Bible studies are using The New American editions past say the mid 60’s I doubt if they’re using authentic scripture in English. The KJ I is beautifully written, and I also want to note here that at the time of it’s scholarly review by the Catholic Church it was deemed to be very much acceptable.
 
brumano said:
The King James I and II are the best Bibles I have ever read if they’re not acceptable at Catholic Bible studies there’s something wrong with the Bible studies. The Latin Vulgate in English is an excellent Bible also and frankly if those Bible studies are using The New American editions past say the mid 60’s I doubt if they’re using authentic scripture in English. The KJ I is beautifully written, and I also want to note here that at the time of it’s scholarly review by the Catholic Church it was deemed to be very much acceptable.
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You still need a version with the deuterocanonical books, if you are studying the OT area. Other than that, one is well served by the KJV.
 
po18guy said:
You still need a version with the deuterocanonical books, if you are studying the OT area. Other than that, one is well served by the KJV.
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Except some parts of these OT books were excised, as well: seven chapters in the book of Esther, and two chapters and a prayer in the book of Daniel.
 
Della said:
Except some parts of these OT books were excised, as well: seven chapters in the book of Esther, and two chapters and a prayer in the book of Daniel.
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Oooops! :o I forgot that the rebellious editor went to work even there…

OK, so if it is the new testament, or a non-affected deuterocanonical book of the OT, and if you have the deuterocanon version of the KJV, then you are fine.

You know, a D-R or NABRE or RSV-2CE is not all that expensive after all!
 
po18guy said:
Oooops! :o I forgot that the rebellious editor went to work even there…

OK, so if it is the new testament, or a non-affected deuterocanonical book of the OT, and if you have the deuterocanon version of the KJV, then you are fine.

You know, a D-R or NABRE or RSV-2CE is not all that expensive after all!
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Yes, they did a hack job on the OT all right, sad to say. Not as bad as Reader’s Digest or Thomas Jefferson, but still not so good. 😉
 
Justice_Mercy said:
The wording of the NAB (and other translations that render it that way) is actually a more literal translation, so there is no reason to find fault with it, IMHO.
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Okay, I’m ready to switch over to the Approved (modern) Catholic Bible NAB, but it has to be a Study Bible that is equal to my NIV Disciple’s Study Bible. The protestants are right out front with their theological conclusions, and my NIV has a half of a page of foot notes on almost every page.

It would be interesting to find out what the official Church teaching is, verse by verse.
 
Nicea325 said:
Indeed. However, the NAB reads:

Whomever you forgive anything, so do I. For indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for you in the presence of Christ,

:whistle:
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How does the NABRE translate it?
 
johndoe100 said:
Okay, I’m ready to switch over to the Approved (modern) Catholic Bible NAB, but it has to be a Study Bible that is equal to my NIV Disciple’s Study Bible. The protestants are right out front with their theological conclusions, and my NIV has a half of a page of foot notes on almost every page.

It would be interesting to find out what the official Church teaching is, verse by verse.
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The Church does not micro-manage scripture, but interprets it in light of the Apostolic Traditon which produced the bible (see the prologue to Luke), and by the authority of the magisterium - the teaching authority - of the Church. It is a three-legged platform. Of course, all of it is consistent with scripture, and requires no wiggle words. Yet, there is much that, even after nearly 2,000 years, is simply a mystery.

Despite what the prior post may have intimated. the NAB is far from the only “approved version.” All prior approved versions are still approved. Thus, if you have a Douay-Rheims, it is approved, as it carries the Imprimatur of a Cardinal. And, so it is with all versions of the Catholic bible that carry the Imprimatur. The NAB (or NABRE) is simply the version that is currently used by the USCCB, but it is not binding upon all Catholics to use it.

As to the killer Catholic bible, check out the Navarre Bible. Costly, but highly praised. The Ignatius study bible is also receiving rave reviews, but is available only in the New Testament at this time. The OT is being worked on. It will be excellent when finished, as well, and probably more affordable than the Navarre.
 
As if it *really *matters that it misses the deuterocanonicals. I don’t even have a bible with the deuterocanonicals, I even have a bible with only the New Testament in it. I don’t hate those translations for it.
 
Credo_ergo_sum said:
As if it *really *matters that it misses the deuterocanonicals. I don’t even have a bible with the deuterocanonicals, I even have a bible with only the New Testament in it. I don’t hate those translations for it.
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If your considering Catholicism and the Orthodox Church, you should have a Bible with some form of the deutro-canonical books in them, because both Churches consider them to be Sacred Scripture. There is a slight variation between the canons of scripture between the two, but that is easily solved by one of the ecumenical study bibles out there, that include all the deutro-canonical books (Apocrypha) for both Churches.
 
CalCatholic said:
If your considering Catholicism and the Orthodox Church, you should have a Bible with some form of the deutro-canonical books in them, because both Churches consider them to be Sacred Scripture. There is a slight variation between the canons of scripture between the two, but that is easily solved by one of the ecumenical study bibles out there, that include all the deutro-canonical books (Apocrypha) for both Churches.
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I accept the Deuterocanon as scripture, of course. But there is only one Dutch Catholic bible which has an intro to Jona where it says that the story was all made up and is entirely symbolical 😦

On top of that it is very freely translated, something which I don’t like.
 
“The NKJV, as well as the NASB and the NIV, are modern, agenda-driven interpretations. They do not stand up well in comparison to the older translations.”

Yes. I use none of them in my catechism class. The NIV is especially a disaster for Catholics. I will use the KJV on occasion (“For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.”), the RSV-CE most of the time, the D-R on occasion, and the NAB for general reading because that’s what the kids hear at Mass.
 
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