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sallybutler
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Well, then I can safely assume you will not have time to comment on anything else. Can’t wait 'til Monday to see you posts.
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TheLittleLady
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He is trying to influence the jurors and also softening up the ground for a planned pardon if the jury does not listen.
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HCTC
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I’m copying your response because I want to have a record of it, but I’m not going to dignify it with a response.
In other words, you think Trump should be denied speech rights?
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sallybutler
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Free speech does not include yelling fire in a theater or trying to influence a jury
Because the Lutherans dared to practice their religious free exercise, the ministerial exception
Lots of pundits on the air discussing the possible impact of the jurors’ questions.
Lots of negative press about Manafort since the indictment. Is that influence?
Maybe, but it is free speech. The jury is prohibited from accessing media. Trump has not entered the jurors’ room to influence the jury.m
Oh, Trump hasnt yelled fire in a theater
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sallybutler
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Unfortunately, the more power you have, the less you can speak.
Trump is the most powerful person in the world. As a result, there are people who will do what he suggests, even if it isn’t morally and/or legally right
Trump is the most powerful person in the world. As a result, there are people who will do what he suggests, even if it isn’t morally and/or legally right
In the constitution where?
You mean like jurors who are not listening to him?
If they are listening to the media, they’re already doing things that are wrong. The whole reason for that prohibition is to protect both the jury (and defendant) AND the free speech rights of others, including the president.
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sallybutler
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How do you know they aren’t listening? They should have been sequestered.
How do you know they are? Why should an American citizen give up his/her rights because someone else might not be doing what they’re supposed to do?
Unless, of course, you think what happened to Tommy Robinson should happen to free speech/press here.
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sallybutler
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High profile cases should sequester the juries. Just my opinion. Both to provide fairness to the defendant and the prosecution.
Why is this a high profile case? Tax evasion cases happen all the time.
The DOJ and FBI looked at it and ignored it until Mueller thought he could get Manafort to flip and lie about collusion in order to get Trump.
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MonteRCMS
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A year in jail, max.
NOT solitary confinement.
NOT solitary confinement.
I give Mueller credit. He hasn’t resorted to water boarding…
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stinkcat_14
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You have a problem with waterboarding?MonteRCMS:
I give Mueller credit. He hasn’t resorted to water boarding…
…yet.
For foreign nationals who fly hijacked planes into our buildings and the like, no.JonNC:
You have a problem with waterboarding?MonteRCMS:
I give Mueller credit. He hasn’t resorted to water boarding…
…yet.
For American citizens who work on the campaign of a presidential candidate of the opposite party of the administration in power, yeah, kind of.
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stinkcat_14
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Either it is torture or it is not. If it is morally acceptable for foreigners it should be morally acceptable for citizens. That whole love your enemy thing.stinkcat_14:
For foreign nationals who fly hijacked planes into our buildings and the like, no.JonNC:
You have a problem with waterboarding?MonteRCMS:
I give Mueller credit. He hasn’t resorted to water boarding…
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For American citizens who work on the campaign of a presidential candidate of the opposite party of the administration in power, yeah, kind of.
Either you believe in defending the American people from terrorists or you don’t. Sometimes circumstances determine what one does or doesn’t do.
Was Brennan’s use of drones that killed civilians moral? Was Brennan’s use of drones that killed Terrorist leaders moral? I’ll let you decide the morality issue, but even though both included the use of drones, the latter is, at least, reasonable in the defense of the American people.
Same with water boarding.
And by the way , that whole love your enemy thing does not mean you stand by and allow them to kill your neighbors
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stinkcat_14
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Does love your enemy allow the use of torture?stinkcat_14:
Either you believe in defending the American people from terrorists or you don’t. Sometimes circumstances determine what one does or doesn’t do.
Was Brennan’s use of drones that killed civilians moral? Was Brennan’s use of drones that killed Terrorist leaders moral? I’ll let you decide the morality issue, but even though both included the use of drones, the latter is, at least, reasonable in the defense of the American people.
Same with water boarding.
And by the way , that whole love your enemy thing does not mean you stand by and allow them to kill your neighbors
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