The Lost Generation of Catholics

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I belong to the Lost Generation of Catholics.

There are so many complaints about the number of Catholics attending Mass decreasing. Did anyone ever think that maybe this happens when you ignore an entire generation of Catholics??

There’s nothing wrong with various generations being reached through their own particular style and context. But what happens when you’ve been skipped over and you don’t have anything that reaches out and hits a chord within you? What happens if all you have to choose from is the Kumbaya Style of the 1960’s or the “Let’s deal with being a teenager!” style?? Yes, the Mass is all about the Eucharist - but what if you can’t go to Mass without being constantly distracted, led into wishy-washy theology and having your space invaded by pushy people who demand that you hold their hand?

I’ve caught a wee glimmer of my generation shining through - in the music of bands such as “Crispin”, “Critical Mass” and some of Father Stan Fortuna’s songs. (He is geared more towards young Catholics but some of his songs reflect the funky jazzy style of my generation. **All **of his music is absolutely fantastic!!)

But…even with these glimmers peeping through I still feel as if my generation is invisible and we’ve been totally skipped over, as well as largely un-educated, by the Church. My generation has had to basically educate ourselves about the Faith and “raise ourselves” without much support or encouragement. When will we start to exist?

From the gatherings I have attended where many of my generation have been present I have seen a great love of Eucharistic Adoration, public recitation of the Rosary, classic hymns, Marian devotion and many of the other practices you don’t often see in post 1960’s parishes. Why is this? Why can’t we have both the fresh freedom style of the 1960’s **and **the sacred devotions and practices? It all seems a bit greedy to expect that only one type of Catholic is allowed to be supported within the Church. The rest get ignored.

From what I’ve observed my generation seems to want to focus on Jesus at Mass and community **after **Mass. So things like having a coffee/tea social hour after Mass is right up our alley. But listening to someone discuss their day on a cell phone three pews down is not.

We also seem to enjoy churches that are decorated - we don’t seem to be into the bare empty church thing. We don’t necessarily need to have only the old fashioned style of art. The modern art deffinately has it’s place. But having an empty church removes that sense of the sacred that we seem to crave. It feels more like a meeting hall then a Catholic church. .

The problem with being the Generation That Never Was is that there are very few parishes where we feel as if we are a part of the Church.

The 1960’s generation have had their fun for the past 47 years. Can it move over now and make some room for us late 20 through early 40-somethings??

Can we have the crucifix back? And the decorations? The high altar? And the confessional where we can indulge in anomnimity? Can we save the band for after Mass - and have the organ returned to its place in the choir loft? (with a choir as well?) And the kneelers - I really enjoy kneeling when I pray and I don’t feel that my self-esteem has been damaged by such a humble posture - If anything it’s kept me from getting too full of my own liberated self importance!

Can we save the socializing for after Mass? Mass is a sacred time - and the half hour before Mass should be a quiet time to reflect and pray and prepare ourselves. Visiting is great fun - after Mass.

I think that there are more then enough Catholic parishes dedicated to teenagers and the folks from the 1960’s. Isn’t it time to move over, make some room for us…and share?

I am tired of being invisible.
 
Much of these observations and experience of yours is a ditto for the “lost generation” in the States. I attribute a lot of the cause to those often good intentioned, thouygh terribly misguided folks who attempted to make the Church relevent to our cultural times; however, they ended up throwing out the baby with the bath water and failed miserably to get the basics of the faith intructed during the formative years. Also, too much affluency and distractions that out competed the need for a sense of community belonging and Catholic identity and left a spiritual void.
 
I have to ask. Is what you are looking for an EWTN type Holy Mass?
 
What makes you invisible? Did those of us in our 50s say you can’t be active? We banned you from the choir and the liturgy committee. We refused to let you be cathecists. We barred you from the organizations. Our PSR program is led by people in their 30s…the parents of the kids. My kids are adults. The League of Catholic Women is mostly stay at home moms, not me. Two of our choir members are over 50, the rest are parents of school age children, and one college student. Even our pastor is only 42. Is your problem with the Church or your parish? Or maybe with you yourself?

A Folk from the 1960s and now.

PS. Please read this in the spirit it was written. I don’t mean it to be snotty. It’s hard to hear inflection and see facial expression online.
 
(Emoticons don’t help.)

Based on Gallup poll stats, the decline in Mass attendance began in the late 50’s (pre V2) from a peak at around 74% of respondents likely to attend Mass in a given week to a low of 40% in 2004.

CARA stats show that some 33% of US Catholics attend Mass weekly.

I’m going strictly from memory, but I seem to recall that in a Why Catholic presentation, I heard that Mass attendees are disproportionately very young and very old, with those between the ages of 19 and 40 not well represented, and those mostly families with children.

Of course, the drop-off in attendance is largely coincidental to V2, the biggest part of the slide being pos '65, but I would guess there are other factors involved than the change to NO.

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“Let the quietist seek a liturgy without hymns and the enthusiast find one that rocks. Let us content ourselves with a church that is home both to Wm. F. Buckley and Anna Quindlan.” - Wm O’Malley, SJ
 
What makes you invisible? Did those of us in our 50s say you can’t be active? We banned you from the choir and the liturgy committee. We refused to let you be cathecists. We barred you from the organizations. Our PSR program is led by people in their 30s…the parents of the kids. My kids are adults. The League of Catholic Women is mostly stay at home moms, not me. Two of our choir members are over 50, the rest are parents of school age children, and one college student. Even our pastor is only 42. Is your problem with the Church or your parish? Or maybe with you yourself?

A Folk from the 1960s and now.

PS. Please read this in the spirit it was written. I don’t mean it to be snotty. It’s hard to hear inflection and see facial expression online.
Okay, let me tell you of my experience.
I was at a parish in my hometown where the norm was one innovative mass.
When I moved up north, I had my choice of Innovation Central small or Innovation Central big. Tried the big, didnt’ like it. Tried the small thinking that because they had a need for volunteers I could change things. No matter what I did, (I am still laundering altar linens for them,two years after leaving the parish) the DRE and hand appointed friends ruled the roost. Nothing changed.
A friend of mine had it worse. She had been there longer than me. She resolved to stick it out until it changed. In the end, those in power, including the Priest held total distain for her. At one point, the DRE even walked out of a talk about vocations this lady arranged when the speech turned to nuns in habit and priests in cassocks.

It’s nice to say, get involved and change things.
What I have found is that getting involved gets you no where except being given the jobs that no one else wants.

It changes nothing.
 
Well, I just turned 46 this November so I guess I’m not of this lost generation that you speak of. It sounds like you need to find a parish that has a nice middle ground of both. You should send what you wrote in here to your priest and let him know how you feel. Maybe you could help bring some needed changes in your parish. Just a thought.
 
Andrew Greely actually has some very lovely things to say about our faith, I wouldn’t write him off so quickly.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with Greeley - but the stats he cites are damning, even if his triumphalism is annoying.

I do agree that V2 probably revealed the state of the Church; I don’t think it caused it.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with Greeley - but the stats he cites are damning, even if his triumphalism is annoying.

I do agree that V2 probably revealed the state of the Church; I don’t think it caused it.
I think that VII was meant to put the church on the right road to recovery.
The problem is that “The Spirit of Vatican II” took over. People wanted to bring all of us together, make us one church with those that Protested against us. While we should consider those fellow Christians as our brothers and sisters in Christ, we should not have compromised our way of worship to accomodate them.

It made weak Catholics understand that they can go or start (as happened in my area) “feel good” churches with tons of community. It felt so good, that they had no clue what they lost.

And in turn, the powers that be, continued to focus on the community to bring those souls back. It didn’t work and still isn’t. We need to get back to VII, get rid of the “Spirit” and we will be a smaller, more devout church.

I can also tell you this from personal experience. We have good friends who came to the church from a Bible church. They didn’t come to a “Happy Catholic” parish. They were looking for meat and potatoes, not fluff. When I was at the “Catholic Community” my Protestant hubby had no interest. Once I found the Historically Catholic parish, he became Catholic within a year.

Maybe in the 50s, keeping Catholic was not the way to go. Now however, we need to at least try to get back to being Catholic with a capital “C”. If we never try it, we won’t know.

I think our beloved Pope (God Bless him and give him long life) is taking us in that direction. Time will tell if he is right.
 
I am 21 and also feel like I too am part of a lost generation of Catholics. I attend a Jesuit University and try to attend daily mass, but typically there are no more than 3 students and as for Sunday masses lets just say there arent many going. Our chapel is practically empty.

Even when I go to my parents home for the holidays at our parish its like all the college kids dont even go to mass anymore. Its saddening.

Maybe its a young adult stage where no one values their faith, and those of us who try to are labeled as extremists.

Peace be with you all,

Regis University Student
 
It didn’t work and still isn’t. We need to get back to VII, get rid of the “Spirit” and we will be a smaller, more devout church.
Interesting, so what you are looking for is ethnic cleanings. Ok maybe your not 🙂 but you can never take out the what I feel has made the Church better and more welcoming for people who would never stepped foot into a Catholic Church. I agree that many priest have become somewhat lack luster in the faith, and I’d love to see more of the older traditional devotions being brought back. I actually think I’ve got my own priest talked into bringing back incense into our parish…but it took months of needling him, now it’s joke between us. He just recently told me I can use the patens when training altar servers, yea! If I can work to bring back some of the older ways then for heavens sake anyone can.

Don’t just sit back and whine, get in there and help make the changes and perserve the old ways.
 
I think that VII was meant to put the church on the right road to recovery.
The problem is that “The Spirit of Vatican II” took over. People wanted to bring all of us together, make us one church with those that Protested against us. While we should consider those fellow Christians as our brothers and sisters in Christ, we should not have compromised our way of worship to accomodate them.

It made weak Catholics understand that they can go or start (as happened in my area) “feel good” churches with tons of community. It felt so good, that they had no clue what they lost.

And in turn, the powers that be, continued to focus on the community to bring those souls back. It didn’t work and still isn’t. We need to get back to VII, get rid of the “Spirit” and we will be a smaller, more devout church.

I can also tell you this from personal experience. We have good friends who came to the church from a Bible church. They didn’t come to a “Happy Catholic” parish. They were looking for meat and potatoes, not fluff. When I was at the “Catholic Community” my Protestant hubby had no interest. Once I found the Historically Catholic parish, he became Catholic within a year.

Maybe in the 50s, keeping Catholic was not the way to go. Now however, we need to at least try to get back to being Catholic with a capital “C”. If we never try it, we won’t know.

I think our beloved Pope (God Bless him and give him long life) is taking us in that direction. Time will tell if he is right.
It sounds like you found a parish that suits you. Good! Me too. I like the one in my neighborhood now, although I didn’t for a long time. I’m sort on ensconced where I am now and don’t want to change. I hope the OP finds the right parish home too.

Sometimes getting involved doesn’t help. That’s true. But I did get involved in Mother’s Club and Scouts when my kids were young and helped bring about some major changes there. Meetings alternated day and night for parents with jobs and van pools organized for the parents of the kids who were bussed in from other parts of town. We even got air-conditioning in the schools, not because it’s hot but because kids with asthma and allergies need it. Things can be changed if the circumstances are right.
 
Interesting, so what you are looking for is ethnic cleanings.
Nope, being told that if you don’t like the kind of liturgy being offered to move to a city that has this kind of liturgy (all the while being told we should not church shop :rolleyes:) instead of giving one mass per Vicariate to accomodate them, is akin to that.
Don’t just sit back and whine, get in there and help make the changes and perserve the old ways.
And the big problem is that when anyone states a distain for the “Happy Catholic” stuff, we are told not to whine. Or that we are backward and that we should get with the times.

Reread post 6.
 
(Emoticons don’t help.)
Based on Gallup poll stats, the decline in Mass attendance began in the late 50’s (pre V2) from a peak at around 74% of respondents likely to attend Mass in a given week to a low of 40% in 2004.

CARA stats show that some 33% of US Catholics attend Mass weekly.
I just read recently (sorry, I don’t remember where, so no link) that the Mass attendance in the 50’s were abnormally high. The author attributed the high figures to the returning veterans from WWII who had a healthy respect for their mortality. I think the article said that 50-55% attendance was normal for the first half of the 20th century.

Again from memory, the stats in my state showed increases in both Catholics and attendance since statehood until after VII. Could be coinsidence I suppose, but I sure remember a lot of people upset with all the changes in the Mass.
 
That "60’s style fun/Kumbaya/"Folk Masses:p " are among the prime reasons that made the Mass irreverant & irrelevant for me and drove me into bitter agnoticism for 21 years. And whenI walk through the doors and see a drum & guitar set-up I want to turn around.

I don’t like the holding hands during the Our Father–and people who turn the Sign of Peace into a social occasion-PU-LEAZE!

Ok, another 46 year old curmudgeon gets off his soapbox
 
Andrew Greeley holds some rather unusual ideas but I think he’s right on target in this article. Vatican II and the ensuing changes from it were more than causes of change. They were effects from deeper changes that were already happening both inside and outside of the Church.

As to you who consider yourselves the “Lost Generation of Catholics”… I am sorry for what you are going through. But you can, will, and are affecting change. But you need to be patient and persistent.

Don’t let movies, computers, cell phones, GPS devices, etc. deceive you. Change and fixing problems takes years. But Christ is faithful so we trust he will preserve his Church.

Changes will probably expose yet unknown problems and will (with the assistance of the devil) spawn yet unforeseen problems that your children and grandchildren will complain about.

In those respects the Church hasn’t changed at all.
 
And the big problem is that when anyone states a distain for the “Happy Catholic” stuff, we are told not to whine. Or that we are backward and that we should get with the times.
Well perhaps because you use terms like “Happy Catholic” which to me seems insulting. You belittle what some feel is very important and vital in the Catholic church. I think working in your parishes to make changes is the best way to go. Offer to lead devotions. You’d be surprised how many priests just are not doing it because no one wants to. Sometimes you have to breathe a little life back into these old priests.
 
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