The Lost Generation of Catholics

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scared said:
Has anyone thought that maybe there are less catholic worships because is it possible that many people have been very badly hurt by the church, it’s priests and clergy all the way to the pope? If the church tried to heal the wounds of those it has hurt it may find that pews will begin to grow for every hurt person that leaves usually means the family leaves as well.

Heal the hurt then maybe there is a chance, turn your back, or deny there is a problem or worse tell the person to suck it up and get over it and forgive the church or clergy you will only hurt more.

The church is in great need of healing and that must start from the top on down, until the Vatican and the Pope recongize the severe hurt that has happened there will be no healing. If it doesn’t start soon there will be more lost generations meaning less catholics to worship.

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We are called to Mass and the Eucharist not to look at man.
The Eucharist is a sacrifice in the strict sense, and not only in a general way, as if it were simply a matter of Christ’s offering himself to the faithful as their spiritual food. The gift of his love and obedience to the point of giving his life is in the first place a gift to his Father. Certainly it is a gift given for our sake, and indeed that of all humanity, yet it is first and foremost a gift to the Father”
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scared said:
Has anyone thought that maybe there are less catholic worships because is it possible that many people have been very badly hurt by the church, it’s priests and clergy all the way to the pope? If the church tried to heal the wounds of those it has hurt it may find that pews will begin to grow for every hurt person that leaves usually means the family leaves as well.

Heal the hurt then maybe there is a chance, turn your back, or deny there is a problem or worse tell the person to suck it up and get over it and forgive the church or clergy you will only hurt more.

The church is in great need of healing and that must start from the top on down, until the Vatican and the Pope recongize the severe hurt that has happened there will be no healing. If it doesn’t start soon there will be more lost generations meaning less catholics to worship.

scared
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I understand what you are saying scared and I appreciate your thoughtfulness. But what hurt are you refering too? I hate to say it but there so much that it’s hard to know what you might be refering to. People feel wounded due to Vatican II and others feel wounded for many other reasons.
 
Julianna said:
ok, I’m ignorant…what are toe-tags, other than the obvious. I do watch CSI.
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If Happy Catholics are me then toe-tags must be traditionalists…I think I have that right 🙂 What a wacky bunch we are.
 
anamchar:

There are many hurts that catholics have endured. Yes VaticanII has been part of that. There is also those who have been denied annulments and in doing so have been wounded and told to leave the church that they are not worthy. Those that aren’t allowed to baptize their children because the priest doesn’t believe they are holy enough.
Then there is the worst of all the sexual abuse scandels and how they where covered up and those abused made feel like it was there fault and how the Vatican tried to cover it up until it was unbearable and they sort of dealt with it. But what happened to the abused, did the church seek them out help them deal with the death of their spritual lives? Help those who where so traumatized they tried to commit or contimplated suicide? If those souls did comit suicide where they given a christen burial, probably not.

I for one have suffer greatly at the hands of the catholic church and in seeking help have been told to leave.

KathleenElsie:

You are not called if you don’t believe and trauma causes that belief to be threatened and usually ends with doubting, so no those who doubt are not called, further when you are at mass you are for all essential purposes looking at christ and his sacarfice, not man.

scared
 
scared said:
anamchar:
There are many hurts that catholics have endured. Yes VaticanII has been part of that. There is also those who have been denied annulments and in doing so have been wounded and told to leave the church that they are not worthy. Those that aren’t allowed to baptize their children because the priest doesn’t believe they are holy enough.
Then there is the worst of all the sexual abuse scandels and how they where covered up and those abused made feel like it was there fault and how the Vatican tried to cover it up until it was unbearable and they sort of dealt with it. But what happened to the abused, did the church seek them out help them deal with the death of their spritual lives? Help those who where so traumatized they tried to commit or contimplated suicide? If those souls did comit suicide where they given a christen burial, probably not.
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anamchara said:
You are far too serious, I already know what the SSPX church is. You want tradition in it’s puriest forum, with no talking before or after mass. I think that seriously might be the only place you could find that. Btw they don’t allow altar girls either, just a thought. 😉 🙂
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Tradition in its purest form. Now that’s appealing, and it’s what all Catholics should want. And yup, 😃 , it excludes girl altar boys.
 
scared said:
anamchar:

There are many hurts that catholics have endured. Yes Vatican II has been part of that. There is also those who have been denied annulments (annulments are not a right nor candy to be gifted to those that desire it) and in doing so have been wounded and told to leave the church ( only if you go ahead and marry again without the annulment are you denied communion not asked to leave the Holy Mother Church) that they are not worthy. Those that aren’t allowed to baptize their children (I am sorry if this has happened the only time I have ever hear of this is when those asking for the child are refusing to raise the child in the church not because they? are not holy enough) because the priest doesn’t believe they are holy enough.
Then there is the worst of all the sexual abuse scandals and how they where covered up and those abused made feel like it was there fault and how the Vatican tried to cover it up until it was unbearable and they sort of dealt with it. But what happened to the abused, did the church seek them out help them deal with the death of their spiritual lives? Help those who where so traumatized they tried to commit or contemplated suicide? If those souls did commit suicide where they given a christen burial, probably not. (only God knows what the situation was) Many of us have had to forgive human beings for grave wrongs.

I for one have suffer greatly at the hands of the catholic church and in seeking help have been told to leave.

KathleenElsie:

You are not called if you don’t believe and trauma causes that belief to be threatened and usually ends with doubting, so no those who doubt are not called, further when you are at mass you are for all essential purposes looking at Christ and his sacrifice, not man. Not sure what you are talking about here. We are called to believe as we are able. We are to look at Christ and not deny Him because what a human being has done to you.

scared
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God Bless and I will keep you in my prayers.
 
Funny how things happen sometimes. About a year or so ago, I stumbled across a Gen-Xer’s lament about how she was robbed of her Catholic Faith by many in her life (including herself, she readily admited). It was a very powerful explanation of how she found her way back to The Truth.
I was robbed. (Part One)
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I am a “Generation X” Catholic, raised and catechized in the tumultuous aftermath of Vatican II. I was a victim of “renewal” and experimentation gone awry, and so were my peers. With great regret and without exaggeration, I contend that the results have been catastrophic for my generation. It is my firm belief that the overwhelming majority of young Catholics don’t have even an elemental understanding of their Faith. As a direct result of that ignorance, young Catholics are leaving the Church in a steady stream (or, dare I say, tidal wave?). (more)
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Read the rest at the link below…

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anamchara said:
You are far too serious, I already know what the SSPX church is. You want tradition in it’s puriest forum, with no talking before or after mass. I think that seriously might be the only place you could find that. Btw they don’t allow altar girls either, just a thought. 😉 🙂
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Um, sure you knew. Uh huh. 😉

Perhaps suggesting a TLM or an FSSP (tradition in the purest form and IN union with Rome) parish would be a little less heredoxical but hey whatever floats your immortal soul, I guess.
 
paramedicgirl said:
You’re right that Vatican II isn’t the problem. It’s the way the liberals and modernists ran away with their own interpretations of Vatican II that is destroying the Traditions of the Church.

I don’t like the changes.
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:amen: 👍
 
paramedicgirl said:
anamchara;1763800:
You’re right that Vatican II isn’t the problem. It’s the way the liberals and modernists ran away with their own interpretations of Vatican II that is destroying the Traditions of the Church.

I don’t
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like the changes.

Makes me feel like I’m :banghead:
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