The Luminous Mysteries

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thistle said:
Why would anyone not pray these Mysteries when praying the Rosary?
Introducing the Luminous Mysteries made the Rosary complete. Prior to that the public ministry of Jesus had been ignored.
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I have a very hard time believing that Mary would give us an incomplete method of praying. Mary must have wanted Christ’s public ministry to be ignored for a good reason. That, I do not know. 🤷
 
thistle said:
Why would anyone not pray these Mysteries when praying the Rosary?
Introducing the Luminous Mysteries made the Rosary complete. Prior to that the public ministry of Jesus had been ignored.
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So in essence you are saying that prior to the introduction of these mysteries the Rosary was incomplete, flawed and not pleasing to God. Possibly an abomination that needed to be fixed so that it was complete.

I find that to be a totallycontemtable attitude, but sadly one that I have encountered among many of those who both hate and despise Traditional Catholicism in all of it’s forms and practices and who apparently will stop at nothing to create a new and improced Catholicism to replace the flawed version from the past…
 
Yes, they are major events in Our Lord’s ministry. Pivotal even.
 
bpaynter said:
Yes, although I find it difficult to visualise the third mystery, the proclamation, as one event, compared to the other four. Any ideas?
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I picture the sermon on the Mount. Just the large crowds gathered around Jesus while he preaches to them, and how they were so involved that they forgot all about eating.

The Luminous mysteries are my favorite ones. I look forward to Thursday for this reason. The actual ministry of Jesus is so fascinating, especially the Wedding at Cana and the Institution of the Eucharist.
 
nurselisa99 said:
I picture the sermon on the Mount. Just the large crowds gathered around Jesus while he preaches to them, and how they were so involved that they forgot all about eating.

The Luminous mysteries are my favorite ones. I look forward to Thursday for this reason. The actual ministry of Jesus is so fascinating, especially the Wedding at Cana and the Institution of the Eucharist.
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This is exactly how I feel as well JP11 was certainly inspired by the Holy Spirit and Our Lady to include them, of this I have no doubt. The Luminous Mysteries are very much from God. 👍
 
MIKE46 said:
So in essence you are saying that prior to the introduction of these mysteries the Rosary was incomplete, flawed and not pleasing to God. Possibly an abomination that needed to be fixed so that it was complete.

I find that to be a totallycontemtable attitude, but sadly one that I have encountered among many of those who both hate and despise Traditional Catholicism in all of it’s forms and practices and who apparently will stop at nothing to create a new and improced Catholicism to replace the flawed version from the past…
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This is the best example of non-sequitur that I have seen in a long time. I would say that the next step is to burn thistle to the stake because of his heresy.
 
I’m not a fanatic about, but I’ve never said the Luminous Mysteries on my own.
 
bpaynter said:
Yes, although I find it difficult to visualise the third mystery, the proclamation, as one event, compared to the other four. Any ideas?
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Part of the beauty of the Rosary is the ability to ‘wander’ beyond the strict confines of a singular moment. For example, the Annunciation is certainly pertaining to a single event. Yet, within that event there are many parts (the Angelic Salutation, the amazement of Mary, the Fiat, etc.) that can be meditated upon. Likewise, one could reflect on all of salvation history leading up to this earth-shattering moment.

For the 3rd Luminous Mystery, while there is plenty to choose from, I tend to think of Christ proclaiming “The Kingdom of Heaven is upon you, therefore Repent! and believe in the Gospel”. But, that’s just me. 😉
 
WFS5801 said:
I don’t pray the Luminous Mysteries for several reason. One because, when Our Lady introduced the Rosary to St. Dominic, she said…
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It is a pious legend that the Blessed Mother appeared to Saint Dominic and gave him the Dominican Rosary (there are countless types of rosaries, such as the Brigittine Rosary), but in reality the development of the Rosary (while without doubt guided by the Holy Spirit), was neither apparitional nor instantaneous.

It was indeed one of the primary aims of the Rosary in its development to allow the unlearned to pray in like fashion with the monks who recited the entire Psalter everyday. One Hail Mary for every psalm, and eventually some mysteries were attached to them (though there were many variations on the mysteries).

Eventually (and by the time of the Council of Trent), the Dominican Rosary developed into what we are familiar with today. Though, there is nothing that states that the prayer cannot develop further, which is what occurred when Venerable John Paul II gave the world the Luminous Mysteries.
 
I don’t pray the Luminous Mysteries. All the usual reasons. I also don’t care for the way they fit into the week or the yearly calendar. I don’t want to say the Joyful Mysteries only once a week. I am not sure what part of the year they would be appropriate for Sundays either. You know how we have the Joyful for Advent/Christmas, Sorrowful for Lent, and Glorious for Easter and the rest of the year. Do those who say the Luminous assign them to a particular season for Sundays?

I am an old dog. I don’t like the designated hitter rule either. It is always fun to watch pitchers bat knowing that if that guy managed to get two or three hits in a season, you could get 10 or 12! I hate the expansion teams beginning with the Mets and Astros and inter-league play too. I don’t care about old products marketing themselves as “new and improved.” What am I supposed to believe about how it was supposedly so great all the time before? I don’t want anybody messing with my sports, my razor blades, or my breakfast cereal. It was fine the way it was, thankyou. If someone wants “new tricks” from this ol’ dog they have to oblige under pain of mortal sin. If I have the option, I will pass on them every time.

Edit: To be fair, I have to concede they have done some good things with razor blades over my lifetime. Carry on Gillette.
 
I always prayed the Luminous Mysteries when I did weekly Eucharistic Adoration with the campus student group.

I appreciated them because Adoration was always on Thursday, that is the day of the Lord’s Supper, and because the mysteries conclude with the Institution of the Holy Eucharist. It seemed fitting.
 
No, I don’t pray them. The Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious mysteries are the only ones I pray. That’s the way it was before JPII added the luminous mysteries, and that’s the way it should be. You can’t mess with a prayer like the rosary.
 
SpiritusSanctus said:
No, I don’t pray them. The Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious mysteries are the only ones I pray. That’s the way it was before JPII added the luminous mysteries, and that’s the way it should be. You can’t mess with a prayer like the rosary.
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Why, do you also consider the Rosary an immutable truth?

Prayer evolves. The Rosary evolved into the common form we know and Venerable John Paul II made suggestions for it to continue to evolve.
 
palmas85 said:
My retort would be that just because a Pope does something does not automatically make it right.
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No, but without substantive evidence to the contrary, the Pope should be given absolutely every benefit of the doubt (and maybe then some).
 
I would pray them if someone else is leading and that was what was up for the day but I probably wouldn’t do them on my own, simply out of habit from my growing up years. I dont have any problem with them but don’t have any attachment to them either.

To be honest though, I tend to do whatever mysteries are most conducive to my current state when I pray the rosary and don’t tend to follow the “assigned” days.
 
No because that is not the way St Dominic got it from the Theotokos.
 
I think the 5th Luminous Mystery – The Institution of the Eucharist – is great because the Eucharist is so central to our lives of faith.

The Baptism in the River Jordan and the Transfiguration are both prime examples of the Manifestation of God in Jesus Christ (the other prime one being the Epiphany).

The Wedding Feast of Cana is the first public miracle – and a great example of the power of the intercession of Mary.

And the Proclamation of the Gospel – is a good portion of the Gospel.
 
I love the Luminous Mysteries, and look forward to Thursday every week. They fit in perfectly between the Joyful and Sorrowful mysteries. Without them, it goes from Jesus being twelve being found in the temple, to Him being 33 praying in Gethsemane. The luminous mysteries cover his entire public ministry, highlighting the most important moments. And as JMJ said, the Eucharist is such an important part of our faith, it is fitting that it be remembered in the rosary.
 
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