When praying only one Mystery a day and using the Luminous Mysteries, what you pray each day of the week is always the same. Instead of going like this:
This wasn’t “evolution.” It was a suggested change made by Pope John Paul II. Evolution is “drift” – this was a specific decision. Since it was only a suggestion we are free to accept or reject the Luminous Mysteries. I reject them for the reasons I’ve already given. The traditional Rosary seems in sync with the Church Calendar.
So did Scott Hahn et al. I don’t pray the “Mysteries of Light” (they had to change even the way they name the mysteries, lol) anymore than I pray the biblical mysteries. A certain group of traditionalists wrote the “indignant mysteries” (those where God punishes sinners, including the flipping of the tables, etc.). It’s just ridiculous how they couldn’t leave a single sacrament or even Catholic devotion untouched. The rosary was the last to fall. In any case, no one is saying that the mysteries expressed in John Paul II’s mysteries is bad or not a mystery. It’s just a novelty, as basically all the liturgical, canonical, and devotional changes were throughout the 20th century. No one has to pray these new mysteries, anymore than he has to meditate in the rosary upon the innumerable other works in the life of our Lord that are not included in the traditional mysteries.
Like another poster said, JPII messed with Tradition by changing the rosary a little bit. Prayers aren’t really supposed to evolve. I suppose one day the Our Father will be changed and everyone will accept it just because the Pope was the one that changed it. As another poster on this very thread stated, just because the Pope does something does not automatically make it right.
Do the Dominicans mess with Tradition by beginning the rosary like the Divine Office? Or do we mess with Tradition by beginning the rosary with the Apostles’ Creed?
I could give you numerous examples that will show otherwise if you would like. There have been Popes historically thathave done and said some pretty heinous things in relation to the faith. In fact, many of their acts, pronouncements and sayings are generally unknown to the average Catholic on the street.
Hey, Thistle said the Rosary was incomplete prior to that action. If it was incomplete then it was flawed. Something not complete isn’t finished yet. So to his, Thistle’s, mind I suppose, the Holy Father took appropriate action to correct and perfect that situation, correct?
Thanks for the info Alindawyl. Noted.
The Dominican Rosary was a way for the laity to be in communion spiritually with the Church when the clergy prayed the Psalter or Breviary in Latin, which not many lay people understood. The Psalms are 150. The Rosary is 3 sets of Mysteries, 5 each, with a decade of Ave Maria’s. Adding to 150 Ave’s for the complete Rosary. Add the Luminous you now have a additional 50 Ave’s for a total of 200 Ave’s. There is not 200 Psalms, only 150. By Dominicans changing the intro to the Rosary, they are not changing the total of 150 Ave’s representing 150 Psalms. For a traditional Catholic. Tradition is important!. I’m not going to say that the Luminous mysteries are bad for all Catholics. I just don’t say them, because I prefer the traditional way. I’ll read scripture, when I want to meditate on the other Mysteries.
Actually it would be Tradition rather than tradition. Read the post above this one and you’ll get a good explanation.
lol, sounds like something I would say. I enjoyed it.
This is crazy. I didnt know there was controversy over this. I tend not to pray them, since I learned the Joyful, sorrowful, and glorious mysteries on my own, and never learned the luminous until about a year ago.
Well, for me, the Rosary didn’t need a “fresh life.” It was already vital and important. And why do you call it “stubbornness” when Catholics continue praying the Rosary the way they always have instead of accepting suggested (not required) changes in it?
