The Mark of the Beast

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To understand Gods works as written the whole of the bible and worked out in the New Testament, follow these events and you will see a clear picture of what went on, and what is going on.
**1.(Introduction to God) **God gave us His story on creation.
a. The only creator God
b. He purposed mankind to be in His image.

2. (The Fall) The consequences of having intelligence.
a. Individuality attained therefore becomes lost.
Code:
b.(Knowledge gained) The tree of knowledge of good and evil
(Consequences for knowing good and evil) Ability to rebel, become disobedient.

3. (Judgment) Judgment is for the fall #2 above and of which a rebirth is required.
a. Death of the spirit is the consequence for attaining knowledge and the becoming as like gods.
b. Without the creators intervention, salvation of mankind would be a total loss.

4. (Execution) Because of the fall, judgment was passed ending in the death of the soul as the final solution.

Now, study those four event and see if they don’t fit your life’s pattern.

First, your born, introduction into the world.

Second, you grow in knowledge of good and evil and become as separate entities (gods) and as a consequence, become separated from God. (Death of the soul)

Third, you find that Judgment is at the door if you don’t follow God’s laws and that without His help, can there be no saving grace.

Fourth, when you come to the knowledge of God’s saving grace, via His Son, you’re old man dies with Christ on the cross and you become a new creature.

Those same four events did Jesus fulfill for the salvation of the soul of mankind.

1. Introduction= Begun at the eve of the 6th day, Friday,with the Lord’s Supper. 6pm to 12 midnight, or sundown to midnight.

2. Fall= 12 midnight to 6am sunrise, Jesus giving up His will for the Father’s will in taking the load of the sins of the world upon His shoulders unto Him a double portion, or His cup running over the brim.
Jesus at midnight at the Garden of Gethsemane prayed and was found full of inequity.

3. Judgment= 6 am to 12 midday noon, Jesus taken to the four courts and found wanting, condemned, sentenced to death.

4.Execution = 12 midday noon to 6pm sundown, when Jesus is punished, and crucified.

Mankind’s fate is within those four events and of which only God Himself could fulfill (Meet) the exact requirements for redeeming mankind.

Jesus was that fulfillment (Purchased the soul of mankind via the sacrifice in God’s place, and in ours) so that mankind now could be free from the penalty of eternal death exacted on us by the gaining of knowledge.

Add, or subtract anything you like, interpret God word anyway you like, you will never get away from those four events.

But because of Jesus’ fulfillment of those four events, has given us the freedom to again become one with God.

I see God the Father in Jesus saving His own creation from it’s own predicament the Father placed us in.

So, argue on while I exclude no one from the power of God to save His own creation no matter what man may think or believe.

To me you are all brothers and sisters in Jesus.

The problem is, that not all of you are aware of it to the point of unity and of non discrimination.

For many of us were raised Catholics, Jews or Protestants, or simply born into those beliefs.

The mark of the Beast is the lamb marked for death as a substitute for the souls of all mankind.

A lamb is a beast, and the word beast also indicates a huge or tremendous something, as in Jesus having the worlds sins to pay for, could be considered a beast in that respect.

There is but only one soul that could not be saved of all mankind unless God the Father forgives that one.

Can you tell me who that one is?

Blessings’, AJ
 
The Mark of the Beast, and more, can be found here.

outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm

WARNING : The truth can only be recognized by those who see the truth. One is only dependent upon a belief if one is at a distance from the truth, and thus one can not (see), thus connect directly with, the truth. All believers will therefore reject this truth, for its completeness does not agree with the incompleteness of beliefs, since beliefs are incomplete due to being at a distance from the truth. Thus if you respond to this revelation via a belief/disbelief, you have not seen the truth, for you are at a distance from it.
 
The Mark of the Beast, and more, can be found here.

outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm

WARNING : The truth can only be recognized by those who see the truth. One is only dependent upon a belief if one is at a distance from the truth, and thus one can not (see), thus connect directly with, the truth. All believers will therefore reject this truth, for its completeness does not agree with the incompleteness of beliefs, since beliefs are incomplete due to being at a distance from the truth. Thus if you respond to this revelation via a belief/disbelief, you have not seen the truth, for you are at a distance from it.
The mark of the beast is in the character of the person, if he or she is an anti-Semite. Why do I think so? Because according to Habakkuk 3:13, Israel is the Anointed of the Lord, and this is the meaning in Greek for the word Christ. Therefore, Israel is the Christ of God. Consequently, any person who is an anti-Semite, he or she has the mark of the beast as an antichrist.
 
To understand Gods works as written the whole of the bible and worked out in the New Testament, follow these events and you will see a clear picture of what went on, and what is going on.
**1.(Introduction to God) **God gave us His story on creation.
a. The only creator God
b. He purposed mankind to be in His image.

2. (The Fall) The consequences of having intelligence.
a. Individuality attained therefore becomes lost.
Code:
b.(Knowledge gained) The tree of knowledge of good and evil
(Consequences for knowing good and evil) Ability to rebel, become disobedient.

3. (Judgment) Judgment is for the fall #2 above and of which a rebirth is required.
a. Death of the spirit is the consequence for attaining knowledge and the becoming as like gods.
b. Without the creators intervention, salvation of mankind would be a total loss.

4. (Execution) Because of the fall, judgment was passed ending in the death of the soul as the final solution.

Now, study those four event and see if they don’t fit your life’s pattern.

First, your born, introduction into the world.

Second, you grow in knowledge of good and evil and become as separate entities (gods) and as a consequence, become separated from God. (Death of the soul)

Third, you find that Judgment is at the door if you don’t follow God’s laws and that without His help, can there be no saving grace.

Fourth, when you come to the knowledge of God’s saving grace, via His Son, you’re old man dies with Christ on the cross and you become a new creature.

Those same four events did Jesus fulfill for the salvation of the soul of mankind.

1. Introduction=Begun at the eve of the 6th day, Friday, with the Lord’s Supper. 6pm to 12 midnight, or sundown to midnight.

2. Fall= 1
2 midnight to 6am sunrise, Jesus giving up His will for the Father’s will in taking the load of the sins of the world upon His shoulders unto Him a double portion, or His cup running over the brim.
Jesus at midnight at the Garden of Gethsemane prayed and was found full of inequity.

3. Judgment= 6 am to 12 midday noon, Jesus taken to the four courts and found wanting, condemned, sentenced to death.

4.Execution = 12 midday noon to 6pm sundown, when Jesus is punished, and crucified.

Mankind’s fate is within those four events and of which only God Himself could fulfill (Meet) the exact requirements for redeeming mankind.

Jesus was that fulfillment (Purchased the soul of mankind via the sacrifice in God’s place, and in ours) so that mankind now could be free from the penalty of eternal death exacted on us by the gaining of knowledge.

Add, or subtract anything you like, interpret God word anyway you like, you will never get away from those four events.

But because of Jesus’ fulfillment of those four events, has given us the freedom to again become one with God.

I see God the Father in Jesus saving His own creation from it’s own predicament the Father placed us in.

So, argue on while I exclude no one from the power of God to save His own creation no matter what man may think or believe.

To me you are all brothers and sisters in Jesus.

The problem is, that not all of you are aware of it to the point of unity and of non discrimination.

For many of us were raised Catholics, Jews or Protestants, or simply born into those beliefs.

The mark of the Beast is the lamb marked for death as a substitute for the souls of all mankind.

A lamb is a beast, and the word beast also indicates a huge or tremendous something, as in Jesus having the worlds sins to pay for, could be considered a beast in that respect.

There is but only one soul that could not be saved of all mankind unless God the Father forgives that one.

Can you tell me who that one is?

Blessings’, AJ
Just because of that sentence above in blue, you spoiled all your post with contradictions. Read it again thinking about it.
 
Ben Masada,

You’re a pain in the neck. We believe in this Jewish man, Joshua (the more familiar name being Jesus). Jesus told us through the writings of the NT that there is a place called Heaven. None of us have the ability to make Heaven, except for God (aka Jesus and The Holy Spirit). We just believe in Him as you believe in your beliefs.

What happened to Elijah and Enoch. I believe your Torah says they just went up to the Heavens. The NT is a compliment to the Torah. The NT quotes from the Torah often with absolute belief in what the Torah says.

I have spoken to many Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn, NY. They state that their Messiah recently died. They believe in reincarnation and that eventually through major growth they will die once and stay with God. Not all Jews believe the way you believe.

Instead of you just believing, I ask you to ask God for guidance. Maybe ask God without all of your predisposed beliefs, since all Jews don’t see it the same as you. Maybe allow God time to give you the truth. Maybe you can experience the love of God without reference to your 618 commandments.

May God guide you. Please open your heart.

jpaul1953
**First of all, I have never mentioned any reference to our 613 commandments. BTW, I wonder why you have added five more. Then, regarding Jews who believe the NY Lubbavitch was the Messiah, it only means that we have a mind of our own. Their problem is that they can’t prove it in the Scriptures. When I tell you that the Messiah is collective in the People, I have Isaiah to confirm my assertion. And with regards to your individual Messiah in Jesus, you have only embarrassing assumptions.

Regarding Elijah and Enoch, you are being too stuck to the letter like a child that is beginning to talk. And last but not least, if I am a pain in the neck, I am not the first. They used to think the same about Jeremiah, the Prophet.**
 
Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying with regards to Paul in this point of Galatians. Antisemitism for me has to do with a race or races of people. Not an aspect of belief. Now lets look specifically as your “magna carta of replacement theology”. Now I will expand it just a bit because I like context. I’ll start in Galatians 3:23 This discourse is on the operation of the Law and Faith.

So he’s making this point. 1) the law (of Moses) was given first to lead us to Christ 2) it is by nature temporary and binding. The law in nature is restrictive. So we are bound to follow it or else! But then the 3rd point is the Faith has come in fulfillment of the Law. So the law leads us to Christ and Faith is now how people are justified rather than by being a “slave” to the law.

Note the discourse here: He’s moving away from racial notions and puts everyone on the same page. Christians are the promise God gave to Abraham no matter what their race is. So from there we look at your verses The discourse from the first is specifically about adherance to the Law and he makes a figurative comparison using the two women you mention. But not to put away the people of the Jews but to put away the necessisary adherance to the Law to be justified. Because the Law is just a first step. The real place God wants to get us to is faith which is represented by the second woman and Jerusalem. In otherwords you don’t need to celebrate passover or follow the Haggadah perfectly, or Purim, or make sacrifices at the designated times. You don’t need to pray in such a way etc. You don’t need to be Jewish in the religious sence. Put away the law and live by faith which is better is the context of the passage. Abraham was justified by his faith not the sacrifices he made. Like wise the christians, because of faith, are considered Abrahams real heirs. This is what Paul is saying not telling christians to go and be antisemetic which has to do with race rather than faith.
**If Paul compared Hagar, the bondwoman to the Sinaitic Covenant and her son to Israel, and then down in verse 30 urges with his followers to cast out both the woman with her son does not mean what I said in my exegesis, I rest my case. Blind faith will never allow you to be on the same page with me. Therefore, please, let us make this our last on this subject. I am done. **
 
Jesus was born a Jew but died a Christian…thats why His followers were not allowed to preach in the synagoges or temples…and thats why when the chief Rabbi of Rome.Israel Zolli converted to Christianity in 1945 because of the magnificent work done by Pius X11 in saving hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees from the left wing nazis…Eugenio,his new name…was condemned by his former Jewish friends and parishoners and was treated as dead and as a traitor…gotta luv that tolerance!
And if you prove to me, by using your own NT, that Jesus died a Christian, I’ll become a Catholic. But if you can’t prove it, you don’t have to become Jewish; you have only to give Reason a chance and allow yourself to have a mind of your own.
 
Just because of that sentence above in blue, you spoiled all your post with contradictions. Read it again thinking about it.
In your view, of course, yet I respect it.

If, no divinity is acclaimed to Jesus, then we can never come to a unity of spirit no matter how hard we try to discuss it.

My explanations mean absolutely nothing unless we acclam divinity to Jesus as the Son of God, co-equal in the works of salvation in behalf od mankind.

I, in my view can tolerate anybodies beliefs in that my view is that God looks down at us without and discrimination.

The reason Isreal was chosen as God’s choice to introduce Himself to the world is because the Jewish people are stubburn to the word given them.

Has it not been that way since Jacob to this day?

For that express purpose was Jesus rejected so that God’s sacrifical lamb, the substitude as like with Abraham, was given so that Issac would be spared.

Issac then would represent the world’s souls.

The same thing happened when Barrabas was released and Jesus taking His place.

Barrabas again is a similitude of all humanity been substituded by God’s furnishing the sacrifical lamb.

I know all I said means nothing to you, but there are others in this forum who may benefit from it.

Blessing’s, AJ
 
The Mark of the Beast, and more, can be found here.

outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm

WARNING : The truth can only be recognized by those who see the truth. One is only dependent upon a belief if one is at a distance from the truth, and thus one can not (see), thus connect directly with, the truth. All believers will therefore reject this truth, for its completeness does not agree with the incompleteness of beliefs, since beliefs are incomplete due to being at a distance from the truth. Thus if you respond to this revelation via a belief/disbelief, you have not seen the truth, for you are at a distance from it.
Sean, I’ve been that route in my searching for truth, and though many things seem to match does not make it consistent.

God, I found out does not give us the complete answer to many of our questions, but instead gives us something else to pursue in the process of growing in knowledge and spiritually.

The real bible code, if you want to study it is in the number 7.

Search out the times the number 7 is used in the bible and it will amaze you.

Then seek out the reason why 7 is so repeatedly used and you will find a world which God looks at with His own eyes.

We perceive things based on who we are, who we are born to, what time in human history we live in, and what knowledge of God’s things are available.

In the case of Ben, God chose a people stubborn to His word as a thorn on the world’s side, by which many in the world would either love or hate the Jewish nation who are God’s representatives on earth.

But, as a Christian, I acknowledge their rightful place in Gods plans, and follow God’s advice, he who loves His people shall be blessed and he who curses His people shall be cursed.

God has reached out to the rest of the world over His own people, yet has not forgotten them as precious in His site, and are as in status angels, for they in their stubbornness have been instrumental in bringing in the the rest of the world as one with them to God.

The number 7 is God’s story of all He has done and uses it in Jesus so that Jesus has to visit all 7 days of the Fathers creation in order to save all souls from day one of creation, to all future souls not yet born.

God’s love is greater than what any of us can imagine, so great in fact that it is a mystery to many of us who limit it by our beliefs.

Hope that in this discussion of the mark of the beast, glory to God’s wonderful works are discovered, and not so much what satanic views it concocts.

Blessings’, AJ
 
Sean, I’ve been that route in my searching for truth, and though many things seem to match does not make it consistent.

God, I found out does not give us the complete answer to many of our questions, but instead gives us something else to pursue in the process of growing in knowledge and spiritually. …

Blessings’, AJ
The problem at hand goes like this. If this world was not contaminated by the hands of Satan and his followers, it would be a perfect world. If a programmer wrote a software program, it would be bug free, and every program the programmer would ever write would also be just as perfect. But this is not the case. Any given space of mind or function, is not 100% perfect. Thus when one wishes to inform others of a truth that is located elsewhere, while these others are still located within a contaminated environment, this becomes a virtually impossible task.

Imagine intelligent life forms that live under water, a water that is murky due to contamination. Then on comes one of them who has been elsewhere and has seen, and swam within, crystal clear sparkling water. He, or it, tries to inform the others about this crystal clear water, but they have never heard of such a thing and have no idea what the heck he is talking about. He realizes that the only way to convince them of the existence of the crystal clear water is to get them off their butts, or fins, and have them move over to where the crystal clear water is located. But no. This fails. They choose to stay right where they are.

Now even the murky water truly exists, thus if they learn to be able to see truths, rather than stay put and speculate about beliefs and disbeliefs, they could then branch outward and find many many many other truths such as the crystal clear water, now that they are on the path of truth.

But no, they choose to reject walking on the path of truth, and thus prefer stay within the motionless environment of beliefs and disbeliefs. From this environment, they simply look outward via imagination, and see what there beliefs tell them to see.
– From Plato’s " The Republic: "
Consider a group of prisoners chained in a cave. Behind them, a bright fire flickers. Between the prisoners and the light of the fire, figures come and go, carrying cut-outs of trees and animals and hills. The prisoners, bound so that they face the back wall of their prison, can only see the moving shadows. For them, the shadows are reality. If one of the prisoners was set free, he could turn and see the fire. At first it would be too bright for him to look at it. But when his eyes grew used to the glow, he would walk beyond it to the mouth of the cave. There he would see the sunlight, and again the brightness would blind him. But eventually he would see the real trees and animals and hills — reality.
When he returned to the cave and tried to tell the others what he had seen, they would not believe him.
Today, people are soooo fixated upon what their beliefs tell them, that if you attempt to drag them down the path that leads to the actual truth of what these beliefs speak of, once approaching close proximity of that that truth, they will turn around and run back to their dependency upon beliefs. Beliefs have become like powerful magnets.

In the past, a fellow named Jesus Christ could only be seen to a very limited degree since the minds of those whom looked upon him, saw what beliefs told them to see. For them, even seeing was still a believing, rather than it being a direct connection with truths. At the point of his return, would this Jesus Christ fellow wish for there to still be a distance between himself and others? Or would he first appear at a time when mankind was not yet ready and able to see truth, to inform them of the path of truth, and then return again when they are actually ready and able to see the truth.

A Satan fellow wishes to deceive. If truth is seen, any act of deception is also within vision. If you see the truth, you can not be deceived. Thus as long as you keep yourself from seeing the truth directly, via reaching outward for it by the practice of a belief, you give Satan room to work within, to freely practice his deceitfulness.

In short, a massive massive massive chain of events has recently occurred, yet only a handful of people know of it. Only a handful of people saw the truth of it. It is a pity that it can not be shared.
 
Oh, my dear friend, I have been with many of them too. They claim to have been the same kind of benefactors of the Jews during the Holocaust. Many who even lost their lives by trying to hide Jews. I wish I could believe all of you on the one hand. But on the other hand, six million of my People had to go.
But what about the others? Out of 6,000 priests in Poland, 3,400 were massacred. Also countless Catholic/Christians were murdered too. Although the Jews were in fact targeted, let’s not forget the other victims here too. The Jews are sadly mistaken to blame anything on Pope Pius, very disturbing that the Jews really don’t get the true story of what really happened. Any thing that has to do with the Catholic church, or even Christ for that matter, is either forbidden or evil in their eyes. Such hatred, but God will judge those who reject Him.
 
The mark of the beast is in the character of the person, if he or she is an anti-Semite. Why do I think so? Because according to Habakkuk 3:13, Israel is the Anointed of the Lord, and this is the meaning in Greek for the word Christ. Therefore, Israel is the Christ of God. Consequently, any person who is an anti-Semite, he or she has the mark of the beast as an antichrist.
Wrong. Anyone who does not believe in Christ (Revelation), is in fact the Anti-Christ.
 

Sean
Though you have a very good point, yet the object of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was not to keep things perfect, as your argument entails.

You see, out of perfect state , perfection can not be improved upon.

So, the waters have to be muddied in order for any good to come out of it.

That is in perfect keeping with God’s character.

Refer: Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

You see from an imperfect state (Earth) God’s Spirit moved to create a perfect work.

Likewise, we were created an in an imperfect state (Flesh) and when the Spirit of God moves in us, we are then cleansed by the very one who created us.

If some don’t see the truth as given, then they loose out on a rich blessing, though their soul shall be saved because of the perfect work of Christ in an imperfect world.

So, we must be tolerant, compassionate on those who can not see by their blindness to the truth, yet knowing full well that Christ covered them as well in His redemption plan.

Blessing’s, AJ
 
Wrong. Anyone who does not believe in Christ (Revelation), is in fact the Anti-Christ.
That’s right. That’s exactly what I said. Then, the issue becomes to identify who is Christ, which I did with Habakkuk 3:13. The title of Christ upon Jesus was granted by Paul, 30 years after Jesus had been gone, when he showed up in Jerusalem preaching around that Jesus was Christ, son of God, and that he had resurrected, and got almost killed for preaching apostasy in Jerusalem.
 
In your view, of course, yet I respect it.

Look, I am sorry, but you are not making sense. You continue with the same misunderstanding because you are too pride to take my advice and reread that sentence in blue I asked you to. You set Jesus’ supper on that Friday evening. Therefore, everything you said afterwards was out of place. If you had said Thursday and not Friday, you would still be wrong but at least not contradicting yourself.

If, no divinity is acclaimed to Jesus, then we can never come to a unity of spirit no matter how hard we try to discuss it.

How could we grant divinity to Jesus if such a thing is impossible in Judaism? Jesus was a religious Jew, remember?

My explanations mean absolutely nothing unless we acclam divinity to Jesus as the Son of God, co-equal in the works of salvation in behalf od mankind.

So, they do mean absolutely nothing because a Jew cannot be divine. You have got to make of him a Greek first.

I, in my view can tolerate anybodies beliefs in that my view is that God looks down at us without and discrimination.

I agree that there is no discrimination in God, but how do you explain that Israel was chosen from among all the other nations?

The reason Isreal was chosen as God’s choice to introduce Himself to the world is because the Jewish people are stubburn to the word given them.

You continue making no sense of what you say. You mean that exactly from all peoples, God preferred to choose the only stubburn one? Where is the sense of this statement?

For that express purpose was Jesus rejected so that God’s sacrifical lamb, the substitude as like with Abraham, was given so that Issac would be spared.

Isaac was the prototype of Israel, the Jewish People and not of an individual Jew in particular. You are perpetuating the Pauline policy of Replacement Theology.

The same thing happened when Barrabas was released and Jesus taking His place.

That could have never happened. You say so because you know nothing about the cruel character that Pilate was. Do you think that with a chance in his hands to crucify two Jews, Pilate would let one go? Try to read Josephus.

Barrabas again is a similitude of all humanity been substituded by God’s furnishing the sacrifical lamb.

This is Pauline rhetoric.

I know all I said means nothing to you, but there are others in this forum who may benefit from it.

How about what I have said here, does it mean anything to you? Of course not! See? We are in the same level of communication.
 
In the case of Ben, God chose a people stubborn to His word as a thorn on the world’s side, by which many in the world would either love or hate the Jewish nation who are God’s representatives on earth.
Thank you for your acknowledgment that we are God’s representatives on earth. Now, how do you explain the hostile attitude of the Church towards God’s representatives on earth?
 
But what about the others? Out of 6,000 priests in Poland, 3,400 were massacred. Also countless Catholic/Christians were murdered too. Although the Jews were in fact targeted, let’s not forget the other victims here too. The Jews are sadly mistaken to blame anything on Pope Pius, very disturbing that the Jews really don’t get the true story of what really happened. Any thing that has to do with the Catholic church, or even Christ for that matter, is either forbidden or evil in their eyes. Such hatred, but God will judge those who reject Him.
**Do we still have to be punished after six million? **
 
**Do we still have to be punished after six million? **
Ben, your constant “victim” stance is too much. I realize the Jews went through a lot, but so have others. Catholics still suffer today Ben. They are still being murdered and martyred for Christ. Hitler wanted the Jews extinct, he wanted an Aryan nation, blond blue eyed children. He was a nut case and I am sure he is burning in hell for this. I don’t know why this happened, I still can’t believe it did, but our Catholic church is not to blame for this. Pope Pius did everything he could. It was a government issue, other Heads of State should of gotten more involved, not the Pope. Unfortunately it happened. There are other Holocausts going on right now.
 
Ben, your constant “victim” stance is too much. I realize the Jews went through a lot, but so have others. Catholics still suffer today Ben. They are still being murdered and martyred for Christ. Hitler wanted the Jews extinct, he wanted an Aryan nation, blond blue eyed children. He was a nut case and I am sure he is burning in hell for this. I don’t know why this happened, I still can’t believe it did, but our Catholic church is not to blame for this. Pope Pius did everything he could. It was a government issue, other Heads of State should of gotten more involved, not the Pope. Unfortunately it happened. There are other Holocausts going on right now.
**Not that I should insist on this issue. But just for the sake of curiosity, was not the Pope at that time a head of Government? **
 
**Not that I should insist on this issue. But just for the sake of curiosity, was not the Pope at that time a head of Government? **
No. The Pope is Head of the Catholic church. If this was the case, why didn’t the Heads of other religions (are there any?) intervene? Why not have a problem with them? You say “because Hitler was BORN a Catholic”. that’s because most of the world WAS Catholic. That doesn’t mean the Pope is responsible for the Holocaust. Think of how silly that sounds.
 
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