The morality of allowing Syrian refugees into the USA

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Peter_Plato said:
I never claimed they were necessarily NOT attacks on non-Muslims. The point was that when you look at the details they are predominantly attacks BY Muslims.
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We might do all our fighting in uniforms, but America and Britain have been responsible for the deaths of around a hundred thousand Iraqi civilians, and making around two million refugees.

Whilst we might not have done this directly, we destabilised Iraq and Afghanistan with our action, and we had no plans to bring these conflicts to a peaceful resolution.

Whatever we might think about Muslims, we are all created by the same God and the same God hears all our prayers.
 
Cone said:
Referencing the Biblical story of Jericho is not lobbing a grenade. Accusing someone of advocating the extermination of an ethnic group is. Try to keep things in perspective.
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But Joshua ended up exterminating the Canaanites, no? “So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpets, they raised a great shout, and the wall fell down flat; so the people charged straight ahead into the city and captured it. Then they devoted to destruction by the edge of the sword all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.”

I don’t think you advocated the extermination of an ethnic group; I just think your quoted example is too selective and shallow to have any relevance whatsoever to contemporary events.
 
Eric_Hyom said:
Whilst we might not have done this directly, we destabilised Iraq and Afghanistan with our action, and we had no plans to bring these conflicts to a peaceful resolution.
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Afghanistan was far from stable from the time of the Soviet-Afghan war from 1979-89, so no “we” did not destabilize Afghanistan.

Iraq is quite a different story, but I would argue that arming various rebel groups in the area was probably a greater contributor to destabilization. Still, compounding mistakes out of guilt isn’t necessarily the best strategy, either.
 
Rau said:
Is this US law, or is it the practice of the bureaucracy? Either way, your lawmakers can fix the situation if they choose.
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If it is a State Department rule, then Obama can fix it. If it is a law, then our lawmakers should fix it. Unfortunately, the author of the piece did not specify, and I have been unable to find information about this. But I did read elsewhere that they are careful not to reveal the requirements for fear people will tailor what they say in order to qualify (wish they would think about similar secrecy with some of our military plans!!!).
 
DaveBj said:
It is a dark and stormy night. You are home alone with your two children. You hear a knock on the door. You look thru the peephole, and you see a man standing outside. You ask him what he wants. He says his car has broken down and asks if he can come in to use the phone.

What would you do?
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I’d let him in, I know whare all the guns are hidden throughout the house.
 
JCats1 said:
Like Obama has said, to refuse them due to Islamophobia is to show fear. I personally don’t mind them coming in, as long as there are strict background checks. I love all people and I will be more than happy to help them.
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It’s not about islamophobia. That’s just a left-wing talking point for feel-good obsessed people to look tolerant regardless of the consequences. It’s a legitimate concern that some (maybe most) cannot be vetted.
 
SuperLuigi said:
It’s not about islamophobia. That’s just a left-wing talking point for feel-good obsessed people to look tolerant regardless of the consequences. It’s a legitimate concern that some (maybe most) cannot be vetted.
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It’s the left wing, i.e. Democratic governors, with the exception of the governor of New Hampshire, who have shown the most charity in this matter. They say they will willingly accept Syrian refugees if they are properly vetted. All the Republican governors have said, “Don’t send them to our state! We don’t want them!”

I don’t think the Republican governors can stop them from entering their state, though.
 
South America is full of christian (catholic) countries, where do they stand on taking i refugees?

Just wondering.
 
Crusaderbear said:
South America is full of christian (catholic) countries, where do they stand on taking i refugees?

Just wondering.
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Apparently, they welcome them:

theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/09/latin-american-countries-welcome-syrian-refugees

latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/09/15/latin-american-nations-open-doors-to-syrian-refugees-to-help-ease-strain-on/

I think they should go there. Not because I’m a mean person. I’m not. But most Americans, people in the US, do not welcome Syrians, and they would be better off where they are welcome. Children, especially, have a terrible time at a school where they are not welcome. Don’t want to see any kid go through that.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
It’s the left wing, i.e. Democratic governors, with the exception of the governor of New Hampshire, who have shown the most charity in this matter. They say they will willingly accept Syrian refugees if they are properly vetted. All the Republican governors have said, “Don’t send them to our state! We don’t want them!”

I don’t think the Republican governors can stop them from entering their state, though.
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How… (dare I use the word on here) charitable is it for leaders to be suckered into scandal and put their citizens at risk with at least part of the motive being political expediency and looking good and feeling “tolerant”.

Since when is a failure of duty charitable?
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Apparently, they welcome them:

theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/09/latin-american-countries-welcome-syrian-refugees

latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/09/15/latin-american-nations-open-doors-to-syrian-refugees-to-help-ease-strain-on/

I think they should go there. Not because I’m a mean person. I’m not. But most Americans, people in the US, do not welcome Syrians, and they would be better off where they are welcome. Children, especially, have a terrible time at a school where they are not welcome. Don’t want to see any kid go through that.
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Terrorists, who are evidently infiltrating the refugees, would be much less likely to attack South America than the USA.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Terrorists, who are evidently infiltrating the refugees, would be much less likely to attack South America than the USA.
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Yes, that’s true, but on the other hand, we don’t someday want a Muslim South America. If people think it can’t happen, whites will be a minority in the US in the not-too-distant future. Hispanics will be the majority. I don’t mind, but I would not like Muslims so close.

I think it’s really best to resettle them in the Mid-East and help bring peace to that area.
 
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