no quotation marks. if you speak of keeping the Law, the the circumcision and Passover are the actual ones required in Mosaic law. SO you cant have it both ways, you are either a legalist or a Christian. Fulfilling the Law is absolutely getting rid of its observance. I really wish you would read St. Paul, especially Romans. It is all quite clear there. Why you choose to argue for observance of the Law yet arent a Jew is a mystery to me.Dear, Baptism is our “circumcision,” the Mass is our “Passover.” And fulfilling the law is not getting rid of it. Where did you come up with that? One more thing, how was what dbacks5439 lacking good fruit?
Book not witeren by Christ? Wasnt she referring to the Bible? I also notice you chose to avoid the quote from PAul. Why?We should be joyous that a woman left the Church Jesus Christ established after reading a book not written by Jesus Christ? That is called apostasy, what she has done and what appears to be the direction you’re going. No true Christian rejoices in another’s sin, even if it makes them feel good. Either the Church, established by Jesus, is being continued by the Holy Ghost or Jesus is a liar. You decide.
Who’s Joel? I continue to back up what I say, what do you do? This is now pointless.What a surprise, Joel! Once again, you throw out an accusation, a very degrading accusation (how Christian!) without backing it up. Of course, *you *know the meaning of the Bible better than the ones that God Himself inspired to put it together in the first place. It is your understanding that has no depth, as the your main response is “your wrong.” You need to change your profile from “Catholic” to “What I Say Goes.”
Only way to salvation? Read the Hebrew bible and you will find that your statment is not correct.And if you would read the New Testament in light of what the Early Church Fathers believed, you would NOT leave the Church- as that is the only way to salvation. Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.
This is too much.Sorry to burst you bubble, but you were led out of the Church by the “angel of light.” That doesn’t mean you’re insincere, but you’re sincerely wrong. Had you known what the Church actually teaches, the chances of you being deceived would’ve been greatly diminished.
I am really starting to find your blanket statements as above troublesome. You reveal yourself in your statements, as once again I say, a tree is known by its fruit. You seem to want to do nothing more than attack and put down. If I were you, I attend more to the beam in your own eye than the speck in others.So you were raised Protestant? The Christian group with a “to each his own” theology? No wonder you left. Yes, you could say the same back at us, but as the topic does revolve around Christianity, this certainly wouldn’t be the thread to do it in.
How does your logic even work to come up with a statement like that based on what was originally posted? You are doing quite a job of representing Catholicism…NOT. Im not surprised though, as your screename indicates you are one the type who values language over substance…a rather presumptuous statement, don’t you think? What if Agnos. started killing Jews? still heavenbound?
You are correct. I certainly will heed your point.they too would be wise to have their leave of discussions with you.
If that’s the case, why was Jesus circumcised? Why did He need to die the horrid death on the cross? He came to fulfill the law, as He says, not to abolish it, as you say. If he didn’t do away with a particular law then it’s common sense to assume that it didn’t need to change.no quotation marks. if you speak of keeping the Law, the the circumcision and Passover are the actual ones required in Mosaic law. SO you cant have it both ways, you are either a legalist or a Christian. Fulfilling the Law is absolutely getting rid of its observance. I really wish you would read St. Paul, especially Romans. It is all quite clear there. Why you choose to argue for observance of the Law yet arent a Jew is a mystery to me.
“You despised not, nor rejected: but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.” St. Paul, (Galatians). You can’t pick and choose.Book not witeren by Christ? Wasnt she referring to the Bible? I also notice you chose to avoid the quote from PAul. Why?
I have not posted one thing that I haven’t backed up, unlike you.Who’s Joel? I continue to back up what I say, what do you do? This is now pointless.
Am I then become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.I am really starting to find your blanket statements as above troublesome. You reveal yourself in your statements, as once again I say, a tree is known by its fruit. You seem to want to do nothing more than attack and put down. If I were you, I attend more to the beam in your own eye than the speck in others.
Well, aren’t you the martyr? You’re right, your decision is between you and God, but God did inspire St. Paul to write that those who oppose the Church are to be cast out.How does your logic even work to come up with a statement like that based on what was originally posted? You are doing quite a job of representing Catholicism…NOT. Im not surprised though, as your screename indicates you are one the type who values language over substance…
No matter…you are the one who has to live with yourself and answer to God. As for me, I will let you argue with yourself, and will no longer respond to your posts which are nothing but inflammatory. I have my peace and union with God, not you or your ilk will rob me of it. Those who you try to denegrate, they too would be wise to have their leave of discussions with you.
exactly…youre the one that downplayed the Bible, not me. You cant even follow your own rhetoric.“You despised not, nor rejected: but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.” St. Paul, (Galatians). You can’t pick and choose.
Oh, so then basically, you are reverting to namecalling? What a testimony!I have not posted one thing that I haven’t backed up, unlike you.
Joel is a man that believed the Bible only, yet his only argument (which until recently has been your main one) was “your wrong.”
I have, you need to.Am I then become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.
St. Paul. If you don’t like it, take it up with the Holy Ghost.
If you represent Catholicism, then praise God in your statement that I am not one! I like how you pick only small bits of Paul out of context, but avoid the other points already mentioned.Well, aren’t you the martyr? You’re right, your decision is between you and God, but God did inspire St. Paul to write that those who oppose the Church are to be cast out.
BTW, the Pope prefers the Latin Liturgy. And if you knew anything about the Latin Mass, you would know that there are more differences than the language. Respond or don’t. You’ve made it clear you’re not Catholic.
TE,Feelings are not a very good indication of the ‘truth’ of a position. God bless, but ‘feeling a peace’ does not mean that you’ve seen the light. The devil, as you know, can disguise himself as an angel of light. .
The Devil may give false visions or revelations-Magdalen of the Cross , it all came true–ecstasies, levitation, prophecies, simulated stigmata. At door of death she confessed. Exorcism was needed.TE,
Common incorrect Catholic stereotyping of born agains, YES satan can duplicate feelings and emotions, but what many born agains discover is not a feeling its a KNOWledge!
And yes just as in pious sacramental practices that make one feel holy, ONE NEEDS to evaluate their situation by the fruit…SATAN can’t duplicate the fruit.
It sounds to me thecoach has recieved that peace and knowledge that surpasses all human understanding. TC my heart leaps for JOY for you.
Have a great day and gear it to Matt 6:33
Simon