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Brassring
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It’s about being able to do whatever you want, without moral implications. It’s just like every other sin that way.
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LightBound
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Exactly.It’s about being able to do whatever you want, without moral implications. It’s just like every other sin that way.
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NM505StKate
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I never seen any Progressive doing what ever they wanted nor have I heard any kind of talk as such.
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Brassring
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Maybe you just didn’t recognize it when you saw it. What do you think slogans like “My body, My choice” mean?I never seen any Progressive doing what ever they wanted nor have I heard any kind of talk as such.
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NM505StKate
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Her body and her choice.Maybe you just didn’t recognize it when you saw it. What do you think slogans like “My body, My choice” mean?
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Irishmom2
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You are free to see it any way you want. But that doesn’t make it right.Last I don’t see it that way.
God does not say killing is okay if you “don’t see it that way.”
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Catholic1954
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Nope. Murder is not a choice. :dts:Her body and her choice.
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Irishmom2
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What about the baby? The baby isn’t afforded the choice you speak of.Her body and her choice.
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NM505StKate
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Cells are not a baby.What about the baby? The baby isn’t afforded the choice you speak of.
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Irishmom2
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I guess you didn’t really bother to read the post I quoted above yours.
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Crown_of_Stars
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No. The “choice” is when it is still her body. It isn’t her body getting all torn up and butchered to death. It isn’t her arms, legs, hands, feet, head getting torn off her body. It isn’t her skull getting pierced or her brains being suctioned out of her head. Look at pictures of aborted fetuses. They are easy enough to find. I look at them and what I see are definite human beings in every way, shape, and form. They are lying there, many of them four, five, to six months along. They don’t magically turn into humanly form at birth. If I were a witch I would put a black magic curse on these evildoers. They will answer to God at their own death.Her body and her choice.
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Crown_of_Stars
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Planned Parenthood is a hell pit.
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BornInMarch
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Actually science is on our side.Because I am also Progressive. Science is against you also. Pro choice for me.
princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html
prolifehumanists.org/secular-case-against-abortion/
secularprolife.org/
Biologically a human life begins at conception. Ethically (as in according to the ethics that the civilized world agrees upon) all human lives are valuable and worth defending.
Are you sure you didn’t mean “regressive” instead of “progressive”?
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BornInMarch
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Being an optimist, I like to think that legalized abortion will someday be a thing of the past. In 200, 300, or 400 years children in classrooms will be surprised that people in the past really murdered children on an industrial scale.From the National Catholic Register.
by Patti Armstrong.
She’s talking about Planned Parenthood.
ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/this-is-the-most-deplorable-organization-in-america
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BornInMarch
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This actually surprised me.
It’s not often that a mass-murderer has this level of self-awareness.
It’s not often that a mass-murderer has this level of self-awareness.
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exnihilo
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No, cells are a baby. What is in the womb, from the very beginning, is a living human comprised of cells. Left to nature those cells will most likely become a fully grown human. We know from science the cells are human. We know from science the cells are alive. It is therefore a human organism. We know from science that abortion causes the organism to die. When you kill an innocent human, and any act that causes a living thing to die is killing, you have committed murder.Cells are not a baby.
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pianistclare
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Indeed. Anyone who disagrees needs to read this article.No, cells are a baby. What is in the womb, from the very beginning, is a living human comprised of cells. Left to nature those cells will most likely become a fully grown human. We know from science the cells are human. We know from science the cells are alive. It is therefore a human organism. We know from science that abortion causes the organism to die. When you kill an innocent human, and any act that causes a living thing to die is killing, you have committed murder.
The woman survived. What was done to her we would not tolerate being done to any other creature in this day and age.
julieroys.com/gianna-jessen/
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GaryM
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Thank you for sharing that link. It brought me to tears.Indeed. Anyone who disagrees needs to read this article.
The woman survived. What was done to her we would not tolerate being done to any other creature in this day and age.
julieroys.com/gianna-jessen/
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pianistclare
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You’re welcome. Welcome to the fora, btw.Thank you for sharing that link. It brought me to tears.
The reality of what abortion is overrides any rants about " women’s rights".
Girl babies are destroyed as well as boy babies. They would have been the women of tomorrow. Shaping the world.
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PseuTonym
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There’s an interesting subtext here. What should we subtract from human society to get information about how things are when they are “left to nature”? For example, should we subtract technologies or moral principles?Left to nature those cells will most likely become a fully grown human.
Babies would often be rejected if they were illegitimate, unhealthy or deformed, the wrong sex, or too great a burden on the family. These babies would not be directly killed, but put in a clay pot or jar and deserted outside the front door or on the roadway. In ancient Greek religion, this practice took the responsibility away from the parents because the child would die of natural causes, for example hunger, asphyxiation or exposure to the elements.
The practice was prevalent in ancient Rome, as well. Philo was the first philosopher to speak out against it. A letter from a Roman citizen to his sister, or a pregnant wife from her husband, dating from 1 BC, demonstrates the casual nature with which infanticide was often viewed:
Code:"I am still in Alexandria. ... I beg and plead with you to take care of our little child, and as soon as we receive wages, I will send them to you. In the meantime, if (good fortune to you!) you give birth, if it is a boy, let it live; if it is a girl, expose it."
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