The new Archbishop of Detroit! What an amazing Mass!

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I was so very blessed to be able to attend the installation Mass of Bishop Vigneron yesterday. It was very well done - the music was nice, the choir and orchestra were just amazing. But I have to say that the most moving moment was hearing the voices of hundreds of priests, bishops, and cardinals, praying the words of consecration together!!! I’ve never experienced anything like this - it truly brought me to tears.

Please check out Diane’s blog for photos: te-deum.blogspot.com/
And tomorrow morning you can click the link in my signature for coverage from RealCatholicTV - we had a camera crew there, along with Diane for still photography.

Did anyone watch the broadcast of the Mass? I actually got an email from someone today telling me that she saw me there. :eek: I was in the very front (actually in front of the front pew) on the right, wearing an ivory blazer and a black chapel veil. So, if you happened to see me, that was me! 😃

As a bit of a sad side note - I learned after the Mass that just about at the time of the consecration my elderly grandmother died in her home of natural causes. Please pray for her soul, it had been many many years since she had been to Mass.

~Liza
 
I watched it at home yesterday. The Mass was fantastic, unfortunatly, the web video broadcast left much to be desired. It was very choppy and froze for extented periods at several points.

Oh well, I suppose the Archdiocese has better things to spend it’s money on than more bandwidth.

I did get to see the part where Cardinal Maida let Archbishop Vigneron to the cathedra was really moving. Cardinal Maida is very traditional in the symbolism of the cathedra. No one else sits in that chair, and he sits in no one elses.

When Pope John Paul II came to Detroit, Cardinal Maida sat in the cathedra, +JP II sat in a throne next to him. When Cardinal Maida once said Mass at St. Patricks in New York, the MC directed him to the cathedra there, Cardinal Maida shook his head ‘no’ and the MC had to bring up another chair.

So seeing him give the cathedra to +Vigneron, was incredibly symbolic on many levels.

We heard everything though, that homily was incredible!
 
I started watching on the archdiocesan website, but when Raymond Arroyo came on at the beginning to introduce, I thought, is it on EWTN too? I went there and sure enough! I found the color quality better on EWTN. They had some bandwith issues, too, but I couldn’t watch the whole thing (because I’m supposed to be working, duh), so I alternated between the two.

I did see lizaanne there. I think I saw Diane, too.
 
Brendan said:
I watched it at home yesterday. The Mass was fantastic, unfortunatly, the web video broadcast left much to be desired. It was very choppy and froze for extented periods at several points.

Oh well, I suppose the Archdiocese has better things to spend it’s money on than more bandwidth.

I did get to see the part where Cardinal Maida let Archbishop Vigneron to the cathedra was really moving. Cardinal Maida is very traditional in the symbolism of the cathedra. No one else sits in that chair, and he sits in no one elses.

When Pope John Paul II came to Detroit, Cardinal Maida sat in the cathedra, +JP II sat in a throne next to him. When Cardinal Maida once said Mass at St. Patricks in New York, the MC directed him to the cathedra there, Cardinal Maida shook his head ‘no’ and the MC had to bring up another chair.

So seeing him give the cathedra to +Vigneron, was incredibly symbolic on many levels.

We heard everything though, that homily was incredible!
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Silly question…I thought Sczoka was the archbishop when the pope visited?
 
frommi said:
Silly question…I thought Sczoka was the archbishop when the pope visited?
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You’re right, Szoka was archbishop when the pope visited. And his title was still archbishop. He wasn’t elevated to Cardinal until the next year.
 
Brendan said:
When Pope John Paul II came to Detroit, Cardinal Maida sat in the cathedra, +JP II sat in a throne next to him. When Cardinal Maida once said Mass at St. Patricks in New York, the MC directed him to the cathedra there, Cardinal Maida shook his head ‘no’ and the MC had to bring up another chair.

So seeing him give the cathedra to +Vigneron, was incredibly symbolic on many levels.
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Hey, Brendan…I was wondering what to do with this. I’m posting it exclusively here, just for you!

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We heard everything though, that homily was incredible!
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The homily was very incredible. Deep, thought provoking and well worth reading several times. You can get the homily many places, including on my blog (see photopost 1 in the links at my post above)
 
peregrinus_WA said:
Nice pictures. Did all the priests from the Grotto go? I only saw Fr. E, Fr. M, and Fr. J in any of the pictures.
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There: Fr. Perrone, Fr. John Bustamante, Fr. Matthew Hincks, Fr. Titus Keininger, and Fr. John Britto. Absent: Fr. Wolfgang who is in Austria at a meeting of superiors of the order. I don’t think they were all seated together though.

The sisters were there from Grotto too.
 
Lux_et_veritas said:
There: Fr. Perrone, Fr. John Bustamante, Fr. Matthew Hincks, Fr. Titus Keininger, and Fr. John Britto. Absent: Fr. Wolfgang who is in Austria at a meeting of superiors of the order. I don’t think they were all seated together though.

The sisters were there from Grotto too.
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Fr. Paul Ward was there as well, I saw him at the end of Mass leaving.

~Liza
 
lizaanne said:
Fr. Paul Ward was there as well, I saw him at the end of Mass leaving.

~Liza
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He’s in at least one of Diane’s procession shots in the background. I can’t tell if he was in front of or behind other other Grotto Priests.
 
Is Detroit going to remain a “Red Hat” See?

Since the Archbishop of Houston was raised to a cardinal, I have been wondering which Archdiocese would lose its red hat like St. Louis did in the late 80s.

Sadly, it would seem like Detriot would be because the city has lost population and prestige. Baltimore is the mother church and unofficial primate of the U.S. Washington is the National’s capital. New York is the largest city in the United States. Philadelphia and Boston are traditional red hat sees since the early days. Chicago is the third largest city. Los Angeles is the second largest city and has a burgeoning Latino Catholic community.

Any thoughts…
 
The only thing that seems obvious is that Vigneron wouldn’t receive the Cardinal hat until Maida turns 80 in March of 2010 and is no longer eligible to vote in the conclave.

After that, it’s anyone’s guess, just like guessing who was going to be the next Archbishop for the past nearly four years.
 
Agreed on that last one.

The way I see it, we will find out if we lose the red hat in a matter of time.

I leave it in God’s hands.
 
any one here going to one of the 10 welcoming masses that archbishop vigneron will be celebrating around the archdiocese in the next five weeks or so?

he will be in romeo on feb. 3rd
port huron, feb. 4th (this is his sister’s parish)
st. clair shores, feb. 9th

i don’t know where the other 7 are.
 
chewchoo said:
any one here going to one of the 10 welcoming masses that archbishop vigneron will be celebrating around the archdiocese in the next five weeks or so?

he will be in romeo on feb. 3rd
port huron, feb. 4th (this is his sister’s parish)
st. clair shores, feb. 9th

i don’t know where the other 7 are.
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I will be at the one this Wednesday in Port Huron, as it’s one of the sites of my merged parish. And, here is the complete schedule:

• Monday, February 2, at Our Lady of Good Counsel, 1062 Church St., Plymouth, at 7 p.m.
• Tuesday, February 3, at St. Clement of Rome, 343 S. Main St., Romeo (a bilingual Mass in English and Spanish), at 7 p.m.
• Wednesday, February 4, at the St. Stephen Site of Holy Trinity Parish, 325 Thirty-Second St., Port Huron, at 7p.m.
• Monday, February 9, at St. Joan of Arc, 22412 Overlake St., St. Clair Shores, at 7 p.m.
• Wednesday, February 11, at Holy Redeemer, 1721 Junction St., Detroit (in Spanish for the Hispanic community), at 7p.m.
• Thursday, February 12, at St. Frances Cabrini, 9000 Laurence, Allen Park, at 7 p.m.
• Tuesday, February 17, at St. Cecilia, 10400 Stoepel St., Detroit (for the African American community), at 7 p.m.
• Thursday, February 19, at Our Lady of Mount Carmel, 8330 Lewis Ave., Temperance, at 7 p.m.
• Thursday, February 26, at St. Patrick, 9086 Hutchins St., White Lake, at 7 p.m.
• Saturday, March 7, at the National Shrine of the Little Flower, 2100 W. Twelve Mile Rd., Royal Oak, at 11:30 a.m.
 
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