The next pope

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Young_Thinker said:
Well, for one thing, he was a bit of a progressive and I am a Traditionalist. Perhaps excessive ecunemism, for instance.
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What’s a “Traitionalist” as opposed to a “traditionalist” Catholic? You made it a proper noun. Why? Just a typo?
 
ChurchTorch said:
What’s a “Traitionalist” as opposed to a “traditionalist” Catholic? You made it a proper noun. Why? Just a typo?
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It is so as distinguish traditionalists(Latin Mass, etc.) from traditional Catholic(e.g. in a moral/spiritual sense).
 
ChurchTorch said:
He’s no longer a metro. He’s doing a job that any bishop with a canon law background could do. I doubt he’ll ever be a metro again although I could see him back at a secondary level archdiocese like StL.

A man like Burke would never be put in charge of an LA, NYC or Chicago. He would cause too much dissent with his combative style. He’d tank. Then the Holy See would have to move him again.
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Combative style, you say? Making too many waves, you say? I wonder if we could get him into some of the vacant positions in Ireland or the UK? Or move certain incumbents out to facilitate his transfer?

I think the scandals in Ireland were partly caused by bishops being too ‘nice’.
 
ChurchTorch said:
He’s no longer a metro. He’s doing a job that any bishop with a canon law background could do. I doubt he’ll ever be a metro again although I could see him back at a secondary level archdiocese like StL.

A man like Burke would never be put in charge of an LA, NYC or Chicago. He would cause too much dissent with his combative style. He’d tank. Then the Holy See would have to move him again.
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Lol, member since march 8th huh ? What was your user name before you were banned ?
 
ChurchTorch said:
He’s no longer a metro. He’s doing a job that any bishop with a canon law background could do. I doubt he’ll ever be a metro again although I could see him back at a secondary level archdiocese like StL.

A man like Burke would never be put in charge of an LA, NYC or Chicago. He would cause too much dissent with his combative style. He’d tank. Then the Holy See would have to move him again.
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That’s an odd thing to hear from one who said this :rolleyes:
Church Torch:
A person who feels they know better than the Church is in for a very frustrating time.
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Tsuwano said:
I favor the reforms of the Second Vatican Council and I encourage Catholics to be obedient to the faith and the Holy Father. I would continue my obedience to the Church no matter which liturgy the Holy Father, together with his bishops in council, saw fit to make the ordinary form within the Church. As for the next Pope, I’m not sure what the adjective “liberal” means within this context (though I note its perjorative tone), but any Pope in our day and age will be “keen on ecumenism.” A religious leader can hardly be an influence in the world if he refuses to talk with people of different faiths.
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Talking is one thing, but appeasement is quite another.
 
pro_multis said:
Who do you think would be the best man we could have as pope from the perspective of strenghtening the traditionalist movement.

Realistic answers only please (you know what I mean 😃

I have no clue…I just do not follow church politics closely, but would like to read more about some of the priests who could be on deck.
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I think that the next cardinal in line after Benedict XVI would be Cardinal Lllovera.
 
Hopefully, all the current cardinals now will all be ineligible to be elected.

that being said, it is not in our hands, it is in His ands and He will choose the most worthy successor
 
There are those who believe that, based on prophecy and the messages of certain vissionaries of Our Lady, that we are to be blessed with but one more Pope. So, these people who despise Our Lord can finally get what they crave…Death without hope of redemption. Wow! ! Some victory.
 
At_Trent said:
Talking is one thing, but appeasement is quite another.
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You are right, of course, and the Church, by participating in the ecumenical movement, has never sought to appease. What would be the purpose of that? It seeks to understand and explain.
 
I’m a bit surprised that no one has yet mentioned Cardinal Levada. As an American, he probably has one strike against him (I’m sure it would ruffle a few feathers if the most powerful and influential religious figure on the planet should also come from the most powerful and influential nation on the planet), but he is one of the most powerful figures in the Vatican today and holds the post once held by Cardinal Ratzinger. It seems to me he should at least be considered in the top ten of anyone’s list.
 
The only pope I am worried about is the one that sits in Rome now. He is under an incredible attack. We need to pray for him, and let the cardinals worry about the next pope when that times comes, hopefully in a very long, long time.
 
Tsuwano said:
You are right, of course, and the Church, by participating in the ecumenical movement, has never sought to appease. What would be the purpose of that? It seeks to understand and explain.
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Well, I certainly don’t think any pope since the close of VII has truly had ill intent regarding ecumenism. But just as we must understand as Catholics, that those cultures and denominations deeply rooted in their beliefs will remain so, those cultures must understand that the Church has the right to receive the same respect.

If we look around, yes it is wonderful that interfaith discussion and meetings are happening for the sake of peace. Nothing at all wrong with Rome showing charity towards these other cultures, instead of the hard line stance back in the days of papal monarchy. Times have changed for sure.
 
unafraid said:
There are those who believe that, based on prophecy and the messages of certain vissionaries of Our Lady, that we are to be blessed with but one more Pope. So, these people who despise Our Lord can finally get what they crave…Death without hope of redemption. Wow! ! Some victory.
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I have never heard this. I can only say that I pray to Our Lord that we many more Popes.
 
Llovera, Levada, and Burke would all be great choices.

Lavada may be unlikely because he is already getting older, and Benedict doesn’t show any sign of slowing down (Deo Gratias)

and he and Burke are somewhat unlikely as Americans.

However, being American, my knowledge of high ranking Cardinals from elsewhere is somewhat limited, so that would be my top three contenders.
 
We were all surprised when Karol Wojtyla was elected pope in 1978. Nobody in the western world really knew about him, so it came as a big surprise. But we had a good idea that Joseph Ratzinger would be the next pope because he served John Paul II for such a long time and was his right-hand man. Benedict XVI is close to Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera, who serves as Prefect of the Congregation of Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. Last year he was also appointed a member of the Pontifical Committee for International Eucharistic Congresses. Cardinal Llovera is also known as the “Little Ratzinger” because he is in charge of implementing the directives of the pope with regard to Divine Worship and the Sacraments.

That is why, in this era, and when there is much movement and focus on proper worship and the sacraments, that I think it is logical for Cardinal Llovera to be next in line after Benedict XVI. Then again, we could all be surprised again.
 
SenorSalsa said:
Llovera, Levada, and Burke would all be great choices.

Lavada may be unlikely because he is already getting older, and Benedict doesn’t show any sign of slowing down (Deo Gratias)

and he and Burke are somewhat unlikely as Americans.

However, being American, my knowledge of high ranking Cardinals from elsewhere is somewhat limited, so that would be my top three contenders.
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This is my personal opinion:
I have a good idea for Abp Burke for the time being.
Maybe the pope can put him as the head of Congregation for bishops
 
dav(name removed by moderator)a said:
This is my personal opinion:
I have a good idea for Abp Burke for the time being.
Maybe the pope can put him as the head of Congregation for bishops
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But do not forget about Levada’s handling of the pedophilic scandal in his archdiocese several years. I would not have made him the head of a Congregation.
 
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