The origin of life

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Thanks, I’ll work off this list when I have time. I’m convinced that evolution is an acceptable theory, as was John Paul II, who I’m convinced thought about it a great deal before making his statement in 1996.

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What do you know about this statement? Pope John Paul II refered to theories, not just one.

God bless,
Ed
 
The Altenberg 16 is propaganda?

You can read the quotes from the top evo’s themselves. Stuart Newman Interview - good stuff at the end.
Or I could just end this grotesque charade now and stop wasting my time, and for that matter save you from wasting any more on yours with this desultory meandering go round that is going nowhere.
 
Or I could just end this grotesque charade now and stop wasting my time, and for that matter save you from wasting any more on yours with this desultory meandering go round that is going nowhere.
Well then the lurkers can benefit. Bye bye,👋
 
But in the meantime google - Altenberg 16
I did: final statement emerging from the Altenberg workshop, agreed upon by all 16 participants.

To quote:By incorporating these new results and insights into our understanding of evolution, we believe that the explanatory power of evolutionary theory is greatly expanded within biology and beyond. As is the nature of science, some of the new ideas will stand the test of time, while others will be significantly modified. Nonetheless, there is much justified excitement in evolutionary biology these days. This is a propitious time to engage the scientific community in a vast interdisciplinary effort to further our understanding of how life evolves.

Signed…

rossum
 
Africa, a couple of million years before your Universe was created.
Thank you.
I have a general understanding of the Out of Africa theory and am very interested in the particulars. The debate is on-going. Some new evidence may bring back the Multiregional theory.
:slapfight:

As you know, a variety of hominid species lived during various periods, so I expected that you were going to present more detailed information about one since you knew the description – “ugly squat hunchbacks”.🙂

Obviously, I am very interested in actual research papers concerning pre-human history.

Blessings,
granny

Human life is sacred.
 
Thank you.
I have a general understanding of the Out of Africa theory and am very interested in the particulars. The debate is on-going. Some new evidence may bring back the Multiregional theory.
:slapfight:

As you know, a variety of hominid species lived during various periods, so I expected that you were going to present more detailed information about one since you knew the description – ugly squat hunchbacks.🙂

Obviously, I am very interested in actual research papers concerning pre-human history.

Blessings,
granny

Human life is sacred.
There are many available. Happy reading.
 
WOW - now I am convinced…But in the meantime google - Altenberg 16
Buffalo, the Alternburg 16 were evolutionary biologists and philosophers of science, not YECs or IDers. They do not help ID:

"The new concepts include (but are not limited to): evolvability, developmental plasticity, phenotypic and genetic accommodation, punctuated evolution, phenotypic innovation, facilitated variation, epigenetic inheritance, and multi-level selection.

By incorporating these new results and insights into our understanding of evolution, we believe that the explanatory power of evolutionary theory is greatly expanded within biology and beyond. As is the nature of science, some of the new ideas will stand the test of time, while others will be significantly modified. Nonetheless, there is much justified excitement in evolutionary biology these days. This is a propitious time to engage the scientific community in a vast interdisciplinary effort to further our understanding of how life evolves."
 
I did: final statement emerging from the Altenberg workshop, agreed upon by all 16 participants.

To quote:By incorporating these new results and insights into our understanding of evolution, we believe that the explanatory power of evolutionary theory is greatly expanded within biology and beyond. As is the nature of science, some of the new ideas will stand the test of time, while others will be significantly modified. Nonetheless, there is much justified excitement in evolutionary biology these days. This is a propitious time to engage the scientific community in a vast interdisciplinary effort to further our understanding of how life evolves.

Signed…rossum
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We do have wars about some of the aspects of science. And one of  the reasons we have these wars is because people are being asked to  accept implausible and incorrect mechanisms.
 If better ideas of how evolution occurred get out into the wider  culture, there will be more of an acceptance of the phenomenon of  evolution. People will stop fighting about whether evolution happened,  which is a ridiculous fight. And it’s partly a ridiculous fight because  of religion. The other side is because of science. Because the science  is not where it should be.
 
and… We do have wars about some of the aspects of science. And one of the reasons we have these wars is because people are being asked to accept implausible and incorrect mechanisms.
If better ideas of how evolution occurred get out into the wider culture, there will be more of an acceptance of the phenomenon of evolution. People will stop fighting about whether evolution happened, which is a ridiculous fight. And it’s partly a ridiculous fight because of religion. The other side is because of science. Because the science is not where it should be.
This does not in any way support so-called “Intelligent Design” or your fabricated term “IDvolution.”
 
This sounds unpleasantly like a little game you’re playing with me. I’m not going to rise to the bait.

Good day to you.
Way back, a poster respectfully had my head on a platter because I tried to get by without doing my science homework. Not only was the lesson learned, but I fell in love with the way modern natural science works. My apology. I was hoping you would share some of your “homework” sources.

Blessings,
granny

Human life is sacred.
 
This does not in any way support so-called “Intelligent Design” or your fabricated term “IDvolution.”
Do you think these guys are going to come out and say it outright?

If one follows the latest science and puts it together the trend is clear.

Most of the peer reviewed papers and science links I post together with our Catholic faith we get IDvolution.
 
This does not in any way support so-called “Intelligent Design” or your fabricated term “IDvolution.”
Are there any terms in the English language NOT fabricated by someone? Perhaps you think evolution popped them into existence. If you are attempting to diss me - good luck. Won’t happen…
 
Do you think these guys are going to come out and say it outright?
Of course not – they’re not IDers!
If one follows the latest science and puts it together the trend is clear.
What science is that?
Most of the peer reviewed papers and science links I post together with our Catholic faith we get IDvolution.
Tens of thousands of peer reviewed papers are published each year. Are you suggesting that most of these support IDvolution? Is there evidence to support your claim?
 
Of course not – they’re not IDers!

What science is that?

Tens of thousands of peer reviewed papers are published each year. Are you suggesting that most of these support IDvolution? Is there evidence to support your claim?
Read it again carefully. The evidence is in the papers.
 
Read it again carefully. The evidence is in the papers.
OK, then please digest the evidence and present it to us if you can. Show us how biology leads us ineluctably to “intelligent design.”
 
OK, then please digest the evidence and present it to us if you can. Show us how biology leads us ineluctably to “intelligent design.”
I have but you have been ignoring it and proclaiming the evolutionary dogma.
 
I have but you have been ignoring it and proclaiming the evolutionary dogma.
Show it to us in your own words, not by referring us to websites. Show clearly why evolution is an inadequate explanation for biodiversity, ans why “IDvolution” is both possible and necessary.
 
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