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JKirkLVNV
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As an aside, Hagia, what did he do to tick off JPMagnus publicly?
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HagiaSophia
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It’s a story related by an author whose name simply will not come to mind at the moment, about what passed between the good bishop and JPII when he arrived for his “ad limina” – it made me chuckle as I had heard stories before as to how those blue eyes from Poland could turn to glacial ice when irked…
According to the tale, Weakland had been in the news for a variety of “public statements” which were considered “unflattering” to JPII and Rome. As the bishops at the papal chapel were processing in to hear Mass there, the pope paused at the door, and greeted each one with a line or two, when Weakland came up, the pope simply stared and stared and stared some more – the good bishoop obviously began to squirm a bit–let’s face it you don’t walk away from the pope-----the other bishops at this point began to sense a “drama” about to unfold, when finally JPII put his hand on his shoulder and said “welcome, brother”/ The point had been made, without a word being said…JPII whatta guy!
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JKirkLVNV
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Yes, after he thundered “Silencio” at those crowds in Nicaragua and shook his finger publicly at that renegade priest, I bet anyone who took his good mood (as opposed to goodness) for granted did so at their peril, God bless him and give rest to his sweet old soul.
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HagiaSophia
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The first time I saw the “papal temper” I stopped dead in my tracks, I was watching RAI (Italian tv) and the pope was in Sicily in support of his priests urging their parishoners to break the code of “omerta” regarding crimes and a series of murders of law officials. Threats to his priests were being made by the “underworld” – he pounded on the podium with clenched fist, those eyes blazed , and his voice thundered – it stopped me dead in my tracks – I’d never seen it before and said “Wow” and then there was the story of the meeting between himself and Lefevbre…a wonderful piece of “business”,but then I digress…and have once again, gone off topic. Forgive me.
Back to “holding hands” or “not holding hands”…
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Genesius
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I thank you all for your responses. I did notice that we were digressing a bit, and I had no idea that such a minor issue could cause so much controversy, but I’m glad it did because it’s always good to hear different perspectives on an issue. btw, thank you for welcoming me to the forums.
Years ago when I had a webtv and was still a protestant by default, though a Catholic in my heart, I had started a DG to clear up misconceptions from both sides. I had very strict policies about posters respecting each other on a personal, as well as theological level. I have always tried to be a very diplomatic person, which really seemed to help foster a pleasant but challenging environment. I was actually quite impressed at it’s original success. Who would have thought that protestants and Catholics would not actually burn each other at the stake?
But alas, all good things must come to an end. So it was with the DG. It actually became more of a Catholic DG and although there were some protestants who actually started thinking seriously about the Catholic faith, most just went away so I eventually stopped the group. But with a feeling of contentment.
Anyway, again. Thank you all. :tiphat: btw, I wanted to put 3 crosses before and after my signature, but I don’t know how to find crosses.
Years ago when I had a webtv and was still a protestant by default, though a Catholic in my heart, I had started a DG to clear up misconceptions from both sides. I had very strict policies about posters respecting each other on a personal, as well as theological level. I have always tried to be a very diplomatic person, which really seemed to help foster a pleasant but challenging environment. I was actually quite impressed at it’s original success. Who would have thought that protestants and Catholics would not actually burn each other at the stake?
But alas, all good things must come to an end. So it was with the DG. It actually became more of a Catholic DG and although there were some protestants who actually started thinking seriously about the Catholic faith, most just went away so I eventually stopped the group. But with a feeling of contentment.Anyway, again. Thank you all. :tiphat: btw, I wanted to put 3 crosses before and after my signature, but I don’t know how to find crosses.
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BayCityRickL
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The standard of “hard to believe Christ would have a problem with this” is a tough one to define. Catholics, in particular, are faulted by other Christians for belief in ritualism.
I simply dislike the practice from a health standpoint. We did a handshake experiment in bacteriology class to demonstrate how bacteria can be spread The members of the class did not know who was the ‘zero’ contaminated person. But, we did about 15 handshakes in an ordered fashion. The results showed how in those handshakes, bacteria was spread and contaminated to each person who was in the chain of handshakes.
Hands that look clean, simply aren’t.
I also think it’s absurd for people who are acutely ill, with lots of coughing and sneezing, for example, should just stay home, get some rest, and get better – please!
So, by the poster’s standard of “what would Jesus do”, would Jesus knowingly make others sick?
Did you ever hear the story of “Typhoid Mary”? Why are people in denial about this?
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netmilsmom
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Stop that, stop it…You are not allowed to make sense on this issue.
Actually, if you shake hands at all, you are passing the same germs.
I think your rule of thumb is correct, if you’re sick PLEASE don’t be so Christian as to shake my hand. I’ll understand.
Now the question comes, what is the incubation period of most illnesses? Who can know every Sunday? I may end up with symptoms on Monday but passed it to everyone around me yesterday. I know for a fact that Chicken Pox is contageous before the symptoms. Anyone in the mood for Shingles?
Better you don’t do it or keep the Purell around.
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JKirkLVNV
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It’s the “de facto” legalism that I mind, not the “de fide” question mark, if you know what I mean. I’m all for the “spontaneous” holding of hands by parents, spouses, beloveds, etc. I just hope it never becomes a liturgical norm, which is what I mean by “de facto.” There’s some places in this country where they look at you as though you profaned the Altar, just because you keep your paws in front of you. I always wish I had the courage to say,“No thanks, not looking for a cuddle right now, other things on my mind.”
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