The phony Emoluments Clause

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The whole Constitution must be on that wall by now.
 
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Yep they are trying everything and so far it’s be n a flop ,slow learners I guess
 
Do the democrats not worry Americans are sick and tired of their childish games?

Do they not realize how pathetic they look? I thought eventually sore losers got over it. Evidently not so for the democrats.

Please may we soon see the end of this democrat party!!
 
Amen!!! They are digging themselves into a deep hole with their nonsense
 
7_Sorrows said:
Do the democrats not worry Americans are sick and tired of their childish games?
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Considering that the majority would like to see Trump suspended AND removed from office, I doubt it. Those “childish games” are the attempts to uphold the Constitution. Now, I don’t like most of what the democrats do and propose, but at least they do not support the Putins, Kims, Erdogans, and hopefully they will not abandon the allies of America. The US is about to lose all credibility. And that is a TRAGEDY.
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Do they not realize how pathetic they look? I thought eventually sore losers got over it. Evidently not so for the democrats.
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What did Mulvaney say, out loud? “Get over it!” How about the President enriching himself at the expense of our pockets? That phony Emolument Clause? Get over it! How about trying to get help from foreign government for the next election? Get over it!

You might want to remember the steps taken every time. First, it all lies, invented by deep state enemies of Trump! Then comes the evidence, and then comes the “defense”: that is what everyone does! Then comes… oh well, yes it all happened, but to abuse power is NOT a crime!
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Please may we soon see the end of this democrat party!!
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And let the autocrats take over?
 
I just love the way the Dems are all about upholding the Constitution,this after eight years of Obama and all we ever heard from NP is that is was an outdated and irrelevant document.I repeat,unless you are living in a alternate universe one so mired in hatred for this president,you cannot possibly miss all the success’ of his administration.
 
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Obama was a constitutional law professor at University of Chicago law school.

It’s not phony to expect the president focus on being a president and not filling hotel rooms.

His job is president. He’s supposed to, like every other president ever, give up his businesses. But he hasn’t.
 
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all we ever heard from NP is that is was an outdated and irrelevant document.
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Leaving aside the rhetorical overkill, it would be great to see a link on this. What, specifically, was Pelosi talking about, what did she think needed to be amended? Was it the impeachment clause?
 
You can surely find numerous videos wherecNP is stating that the constitution isn’t a living document but rather an outdated and unnecessary one.I am so sick of the hypocrisy .
 
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Well then I must be making it up since we all know how unbiased the media,etc are
 
Well then I must be making it up,considering how unbiased and truthful the media,google,etc are :roll_eyes:
 
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Jeanne_S said:
Oh stop ,your bias is glaring,how very petty.Throwing out ad hominem’s re Trumps’ wealth etc.
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You mean you have no argument to protect Trump’s behavior, so you try the old and tired “let’s divert and deny”. Mentioning Trump’s efforts to fill up his pockets - which is a crime - is not some “ad hominem”.

Besides, we are not talking about Obama, Pelosi or even Hillary. We are talking about Trump.
 
No I’m m saying I’m sick and tired of the Trump haters not giving hm one iota of credit for everything he’s accomplished for the whole of this Nation ,in spite of their relentless attacks. The constant nit picking over minutiae is so telling .
 
If the majority do want him gone, he’ll be gone in January 2021. Somehow, I think continuing to bang the drum of polls about impeachment (when most Americans likely don’t know what impeachment is) is folly.

I suspect he will win reelection, but even if he does not, it won’t be by losing 55% of the vote, which tells me hanging your hat on that is a bit meaningless.
 
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Jeanne_S said:
No I’m m saying I’m sick and tired of the Trump haters not giving hm one iota of credit for everything he’s accomplished for the whole of this Nation ,in spite of their relentless attacks. The constant nit picking over minutiae is so telling .
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Obviously your value system is different. What you consider “achievement” might not be considered as such by others. And even if it would be, the PRICE is too high. Changing our constitutional republic into a Russian style (or North Korean, or Turkish) autocracy is simply not worth it, whatever you consider “achievements”.
 
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His job is president. He’s supposed to, like every other president, ever give up his businesses. But he hasn’t.
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That’s just wrong. George Washington, the first President, still maintained interest in his Mount Vernon plantation during his White House years. Zachary Taylor owned and maintained several plantations during his, admittedly brief, term as President. The Johnson family controlled Austin radio and TV stations during LBJ’s Presidency. Obama still collected royalties from his books as President. There’s plenty of precedent of US Presidents maintaining separate business interests during their terms. When I talk about “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, this is one of the reasons why. Things that have been routine for over almost 250 years are now suddenly the “WORST THING EVAH!!!” since Trump is doing them.
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Changing our constitutional republic into a Russian style (or North Korean, or Turkish) autocracy is simply not worth it, whatever you consider “achievements”.
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It’s not Trump that wants to repeal, or at least ignore most of the Bill of Rights, it his opponents.
 
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No I’m m saying I’m sick and tired of the Trump haters not giving hm one iota of credit for everything he’s accomplished for the whole of this Nation ,in spite of their relentless attacks. The constant nit picking over minutiae is so telling .
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Are you talking about this great achievement described in the Washington Post?
President Trump claimed a diplomatic victory after Russia and Turkey took control of areas in northeastern Syria previously overseen by U.S. forces, even lifting sanctions on Turkey.

“This was an outcome created by us, the United States, and nobody else. No other nation; very simple.”

Trump is claiming credit for ending a problem that he created. After a conversation with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and against the advice of many foreign-policy aides, Trump decided to withdraw U.S. forces from critical positions in northeastern Syria and abandon Kurdish troops that had been U.S. allies. His action was in effect a green light for Turkish-backed troops to invade…

As Trump spoke at the White House, his special envoy on the Syria crisis gave an entirely different message to lawmakers.

“We obviously had troops there for a mission and that mission was defeating ISIS,” Ambassador James Jeffrey told the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “So if you remove those troops before that mission is complete, then you have a problem. And we do have a problem right now.”

Jeffrey added that the Turkish invasion “has scrambled the entire northeast, undercut our efforts against ISIS and brought in the Russians and Syrian regime forces in a way that’s really tragic for everyone involved.”
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