The picking-up some Pampers or a gallon of milk Mass?

[ElToro]

Nobody’s getting angry over a suggestion of a “minimal dress code.” Just over a certain perceived lack of charity, and maybe even sense – there’s really no comparison between wearing scrubs to Mass when you have to come straight from work, and on the other hand wearing shorts, flip-flops, ripped jeans, mini-skirts, etc.
I expect you’d criticize the athletic shoes I’ve had to wear to Mass for the past few weeks due to a foot injury.

I would have no problem with the scrubs. But I would be offended if someone told me they were wearing scrubs because they didn’t have time to change. That’s hogwash. At some point they made a decision that “scrubs are good enough” and they went with it.

The same situations came up in the old days. I recall people bringing a change of clothes to work, etc. Now they simply choose not to change because what they are already wearing is perceived by enough people to be “good enough” so they won’t feel any peer pressure. As far as pastors commeting? That went out with the “at least they are at Mass” mantra.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

I would have no problem with the scrubs. But I would be offended if someone told me they were wearing scrubs because they didn’t have time to change. That’s hogwash. At some point they made a decision that “scrubs are good enough” and they went with it.

The same situations came up in the old days. I recall people bringing a change of clothes to work, etc. Now they simply choose not to change because what they are already wearing is perceived by enough people to be “good enough” so they won’t feel any peer pressure. As far as pastors commeting? That went out with the “at least they are at Mass” mantra.

Oh please, tell me how that ‘jump suit’ is any better than scrubs, jeans, or anything else?

**Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be humbled: and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Mat 23:13 But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for you yourselves do not enter in and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter. **

You don’t know our schedules or anything else about us, but you didn’t mind speaking ill, and most uncharitable, of me or my wife.

 

[ElToro]

You have a most offensive attitude. My wife doesn’t miss a Mass, she gets off work drives straight home and we leave for the Mass, barely getting there in time.

Judge on brother, we find making the Mass more important than what we’re wearing. I’d like to know how that ‘jump suit’ was more appropriate than anything we wear?

Seriously, show me the scriptures that teach one to proclaim themselves holier than everyone else?

She chooses not to change her clothes. That makes absolutely no difference to me. But I might well be offended if somone felt the need to tell me they didn’t have the time to change.

 

[ElToro]

Oh please, tell me how that ‘jump suit’ is any better than scrubs, jeans, or anything else?

Jump suit?

 

[ElToro]

Oh please, tell me how that ‘jump suit’ is any better than scrubs, jeans, or anything else?

You don’t know our schedules or anything else about us, but you didn’t mind speaking ill, and most uncharitable, of me or my wife.

And you’re doing the same about me.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

She chooses not to change here clothes. That makes absolutely no difference to me. But I might well be offended if somone felt the need to tell me they didn’t have the time to change.

But putting on a jump suit after a run is okay, as long as it someone who is self sanctimonious?

What’s the matter, won’t slacks, a shirt and decent shoes fit in the bag you carry the jump suit in?

Seems like something a ‘hypocrite’ would push on others, to be perfectly honest.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

Jump suit?

My, my, how soon you forget your own words…
and pictures, too!!

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

I sometimes run to Mass. When I run I wear wear shorts, a t-shirt, a ball cap and jogging shoes. I also have a knapsack with a comb, a piece of paper towel and a pair of clean coveralls in it.

I get to church, wipe my face with the paper towel, take my hat off and put it in the knapsack, take out the coveralls and put them on and comb my hair – possibly 2-3 minutes?

It doesn’t take a lot of effort…

http://www.bestbuyuniforms.com/images/products/Medium/fisher_stripe_coverall_lg.jpg

Jump suit, coveralls, it’s the same. Won’t a shirt, slacks and shoes fit in your knapsack?

 

[ElToro]

One thing I am ABSOLUTELY certain about. The more negatively one responds to people discussing how some people dress inappropriately for Mass, the more unsure and insecure they are about their own apparel choices for attending the Mass.

That lack of certainty and the resulting insecurity all too often manifests as defensive behavior. We are seeing some of that here.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Let me explain something about working in a hospital or on an ambulance. Just because it’s your ‘getting off’ time doesn’t mean you can tell a patient, sorry I just got off work and need to go. I’ve had to stay over for up to 4 hours before.

 

[ElToro]

Jump suit, coveralls, it’s the same. Won’t a shirt, slacks and shoes fit in your knapsack?

It’s not a “jump suit.” And to answer your question “nope.”

Wearing that set of simple, clean coveralls with combed hair looks infinately better then if I were wearing shorts, a t-shirt and a ball cap. If there is a problem with clean coveralls at Mass I would like to hear it from my pastor and I would make changes.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

It’s not a “jump suit.” And to answer your question “nope.”

Wearing that set of simple, clean coveralls with combed hair looks infinately better then if I were wearing shorts, a t-shirt and a ball cap. If there is a problem with clean coveralls at Mass I would like to hear it from my pastor and I would make changes.

But scrubs straight from getting off work from a hospital is unacceptable to you? And you can’t see how hypocritical it sounds to us?

By the way, our pastor has never said anything against how we are dressed for Church. He’s even asked us to take the collection while we were dressed the way we were.on occasion.

 

[Oneofthewomen]

One thing I am ABSOLUTELY certain about. The more negatively one responds to people discussing how some people dress inappropriately for Mass, the more unsure and insecure they are about their own apparel choices for attending the Mass.

That lack of certainty and the resulting insecurity all too often manifests as defensive behavior. We are seeing some of that here.

WOW-
so now I am unsure & insecure.

No, I am actually very secure in my spirituality so nothing you say really bothers me, per se.
What bothers me is that many come to this forum seeking guidance & answers and what you are promoting in this thread is more damaging to souls that what I could ever wear to Mass!

I am done with this thread, as I will not feed into your twisted little game anymore.

 

[theistgal]

Just out of curiosity, if the Church did impose a dress code for Mass or Liturgy, how would you enforce it?

 

[ElToro]

Let me explain something about working in a hospital or on an ambulance. Just because it’s your ‘getting off’ time doesn’t mean you can tell a patient, sorry I just got off work and need to go. I’ve had to stay over for up to 4 hours before.

There will always be excuses. Just out of curiosity just how clean are those scrubs at the end of shift? I’m sure you change sometimes one or more times per your shift depending on what takes place? Do you ever change just before driving home?

I know a couple of nurses and an ER PA that go to work in scrubs but always take a change of clothes along with changes of scrubs. They change their clothes before they leave the hospital every day and bring their scrubs (they provide their own) home in a plastic bag which they fling into a hamper kept in their garages, not their homes for fear of transmitting disease.

 

[estesbob]

One thing I am ABSOLUTELY certain about. The more negatively one responds to people discussing how some people dress inappropriately for Mass, the more unsure and insecure they are about their own apparel choices for attending the Mass.

That lack of certainty and the resulting insecurity all too often manifests as defensive behavior. We are seeing some of that here.

So you accuse his wife of irreverence and sacrilege and then claim you are vindicated in your accususations when he disagrees with your assessments?

 

[theistgal]

I can’t imagine why anyone would be offended that a hospital worker was wearing scrubs to Mass.

It would seem quite obvious (to me anyway) that they had left an important job, helping people and even saving lives, to fulfill their obligation to the Lord.

If their scrubs were stained with blood or other bodily fluids, I would be just that much more impressed that they’d made the effort to get there.

Guess that’s just me though.

 

[ElToro]

Just out of curiosity, if the Church did impose a dress code for Mass or Liturgy, how would you enforce it?

I think the most difficult part would be to formulate the dress code. That’s going to be done at the parish level and no where else.

Once there was a dress code it would be up to the pastor to clearly communicate it and the reasons for it with great care and love. That could then be reinforced with tactful signage and bulletin mentions. The pastor might also choose to approach some people in private – especially those who are most visible at Mass. In the case of liturgical ministers it would be a strict requirement.

From there is people still wore things like tank tops, shorts and short skirts (most tourists would be my guess) you would simply pray for them and let peer pressure do its work. I would certainly not advocate having ushers who would refuse admission to anyone not meeting the dress code.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

There will always be excuses. Just out of curiosity just how clean are those scrubs at the end of shift? I’m sure you change sometimes one or more times per your shift depending on what takes place? Do you ever change just before driving home?

I know a couple of nurses and an ER PA that go to work in scrubs but always take a change of clothes along with changes of scrubs. They change their clothes before they leave the hospital every day and bring their scrubs (they provide their own) home in a plastic bag which they fling into a hamper kept in their garages, not their homes for fear of transmitting disease.

The scrubs are clean, if it’s any of your business and I don’t believe it is.

As for shifts, I take up to 3 uniforms with me and bedding and food to get through up to 48 hours. Sorry if it’s not up to your ‘coveralls’ standards.

Did you miss my post on how I have friends that no longer even go to Church because of people who felt they didn’t dress nice enough?

I’m through with this discussion and think you need to do some self reflections. Just a suggestion. The Mass is more important than making sure you’re dressed for the ‘dress code police’. They’re not what we go to Mass for anyways, except in our prayers.

 

[ElToro]

The scrubs are clean, if it’s any of your business and I don’t believe it is.

As for shifts, I take up to 3 uniforms with me and bedding and food to get through up to 48 hours. Sorry if it’s not up to your ‘coveralls’ standards.

Did you miss my post on how I have friends that no longer even go to Church because of people who felt they didn’t dress nice enough?

I’m through with this discussion and think you need to do some self reflections. Just a suggestion. The Mass is more important than making sure you’re dressed for the ‘dress code police’. They’re not what we go to Mass for anyways, except in our prayers.

So you necessarily find the time and place to change scrubs yet you cannot throw-on a shirt and trousers at the end of shift? * I don’t want to duscuss this subject with you any longer.*