The Politics of Racism

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As an Asian-American, I’ve noticed many double standards with respect to ethnocentrism. Ethnocentrism is considered okey by society if carried out by people who are not of European descent, but is considered unethical if carried out by Europeans. Here are two articles that explain this:

What is Racism?

Everyone talks about “racism” but no one ever defines it. AR’s assistant editor has given it a try.


By Thomas Jackson

There is surely no nation in the world that holds “racism” in greater horror than does the United States. Compared to other kinds of offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as part of the inevitable texture of American life. “Racism” is never shrugged off.

For example, when a white Georgetown Law School student reports that black students are less well qualified than white students, it sets off a booming, national controversy about “racism.” If the student had merely murdered someone he would have attracted far less attention and criticism.

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Complete article is at amren.com/917issue/9107issue.html#cover

October 27, 2004

Immigration And The Unmentionable Question Of Ethnic Interests

By Kevin MacDonald

Arguments over immigration are usually limited to cultural or economic factors. Political scientists like Samuel Huntington point out that the culture of the country will change dramatically if there is a continued influx of Spanish-speaking immigrants. And economists like George Borjas have demonstrated that large masses of newcomers depress wages and create enormous demands on the environment and on public services, especially health care and education.

These lines of argument are, of course, legitimate. But there always seems to be an element of timidity present. No one wants to talk about the 800-lb. gorilla sitting over there in the corner—the issue of ethnic interests.

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Complete article at vdare.com/misc/macdonald…immigration.htm

Regards.
 
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Trelow:
Screwed up ain’t it?
I definitely think it is unfair. If one group is allowed to preserve their cultural and ethnic heritage, then I think all groups should be allowed to do the same.
 
Asian Catholic, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but do you run into a lot of bias against you because of your ethnicity? Do people seem surprised to learn that you are Catholic, for instance? Or do they automatically assume you are super smart? Would you consider these things to qualify as racism? Also, since so much “racism” talk is centered around African Americans, I was just curious if you have encountered it as well. It seems like some other minorities in this country get glossed over (Asian, Hispanic, Indian, etc.) and I was wondering if it was because predjudice is relatively uncommon against these other minorities, or if they are just overlooked. Again, I hope you don’t find my questions offensive, I am just curious. I know lots of african-americans, but comparitively few people of other minorities.
 
When I was running for Congress, I attened a political rally in a mostly Black county. The speaker for President Bush was a Hispanic woman who said that her father had been murdered by the Ku Klux Klan. A Black man in the audience stood up and shouted, “Don’t you DARE tell US about the Ku Klux Klan!!”

Now when a woman whose father was murdered dare not speak about because she’s the “wrong” race, that’s racism!!
 
Now when a woman whose father was murdered dare not speak about because she’s the “wrong” race, that’s racism!!
:eek: That’s horrible! You would think that those people could have sympathized with her instead of insulting her. I hope she had a good response and was able to go on after that episode. 😦
 
legeorge said:
:eek: That’s horrible! You would think that those people could have sympathized with her instead of insulting her. I hope she had a good response and was able to go on after that episode. 😦

Racism is all about hatred, and hatred is an emotion – you don’t deal with emotions through logic.

The next morning we went to a popular local hangout for breakfast and a few sympathetic Black people came over and apologized to her.
 
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legeorge:
do you run into a lot of bias against you because of your ethnicity?
A Black person once referred to me as a “Chink,” but that was about it. I was born in America and fit in quite well.
Do people seem surprised to learn that you are Catholic, for instance?
Not really, though some may have assumed that I was Buddhist.
Or do they automatically assume you are super smart?
People assume I am very smart, but I’m just an average guy.
Would you consider these things to qualify as racism?
No, rather I just see it as the human predisposition to categorize things – place things into groups to make sense of the world. I see nothing wrong with this.
I hope you don’t find my questions offensive
I have a very thick skin – nothing offends me.
 
vern humphrey:
Now when a woman whose father was murdered dare not speak about because she’s the “wrong” race, that’s racism!!
Some Blacks like to have a monopoly on suffering to ensure they get the most pity. I’ve noticed the same thing with some Jews, they get very antagonistic when it is mentioned that non-Jewish Holocausts also occur. For example, while Hitler was persecuting the Jews, Russian Bolshevics were slaughtering millions of Christians, close to 20 million in total, far above the Jewish Holocaust figure. China also slaughtered dozens of millions of their own people who opposed Communism. The total number of people slaughtered world-wide under Communist governments is about 100 million.

An excerpt I like that explains Adolf Hitler’s actions:

From home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/nazis.htm
Overall, by genocide, the killing of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, ‘euthanasia,’ starvation, exposure, medical experiments, terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from about 15,000,000 to over 31,600,000 people, most likely closer to 21 million men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Italians, Poles, Frenchmen, Ukrainians, etc." From Rummel’s “Death by Government”

What is so interesting is the fact that Rummel includes a table showing who was slaughtered by the Nazis, and it includes 10.55 million Eastern Slavs (see “Resources Library” for Rummel’s site). One has to ask why over ten million Slavs have received almost no recognition for their suffering under the Nazis, but the Jews have? In fact, as Rummel points out, if asked, the average citizen only knows about Jews murdered in this century for the most part. Watching Western movies, documentaries, and the media in general the Holocaust of the Jews has been kept in the forefront while other people’s sufferings have been dismissed as not as relevant or even really all that important. It is not the place here for an analysis of this phenomena, except to bring to everyone’s attention that suffering is not restricted to one people or another. Over time, any people can become subject to totalitarian tyranny.
 
vern humphrey:
Racism is all about hatred, and hatred is an emotion – you don’t deal with emotions through logic.

The next morning we went to a popular local hangout for breakfast and a few sympathetic Black people came over and apologized to her.
Well, at least that is something.
 
Asian Catholic:
I have a very thick skin – nothing offends me.
Hey, thanks for answering my questions. I love getting info from a wide variety of people. I am increasingly aware of the fact that I have had certain stereotypes programmed into my unconscience by the culture I grew up in. (although I strive to reject these stereotypes) I am always interested in getting other points of view about these things. I find other people’s experience of life fascinating as I strive to understand my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I would really love to have the ability to put myself in someone else’s shoes. And it is pretty inappropriate to walk up to people and start asking them such questions. It is nice to be able to discuss these things in a Catholic atmosphere. I really appreciate it!
 
I once attended a writer’s conference where a seminar leader was a very radical Black lady. She was quick to tell everyone else “If you aren’t Black, you can’t understand what it means to be a victim of discrimination.”

She quit doing that when she finally said it to me, and I replied, “I can. I’m an Irish Catholic.”
 
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legeorge:
I am increasingly aware of the fact that I have had certain stereotypes programmed into my unconscience by the culture I grew up in.
It was Bill Maher who said on his national ABC show “Politically Incorrect” that most stereotypes are based on some level of truth.

Are most Asians Buddhist? Probably.

Are most Asians smart? Well, East Asians are relatively smart, educated, a economically successful, on average (see national IQ averages chart for details: rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.asp )

Are all Blacks criminals? No, but on a per capita basis, they do have the highest crime rate, according to FBI statistics.

Do all Arabs dislike American politics? Well, probably a good majority of them.

And so on. I think stereotypes that endure for a long time happen because general non-scientific observations confirm it.
And it is pretty inappropriate to walk up to people and start asking them such questions.
In my ideal society, people would be able to discuss absolutely everything without getting offended or taking it personally: pure rational discussions of every topic possible without ad hominem attacks.
 
vern humphrey:
I once attended a writer’s conference where a seminar leader was a very radical Black lady. She was quick to tell everyone else “If you aren’t Black, you can’t understand what it means to be a victim of discrimination.”

She quit doing that when she finally said it to me, and I replied, “I can. I’m an Irish Catholic.”
Yes, I see that your reply was true given that you live in rural Arkansas, but I would have thought that the discrimination you met was all due to your being Catholic, rather than Irish as so many of those illiterate Baxter County hillbillies are Scotch-Irish at least in part.
 
Asian and Catholic!

What an enigma! You are a real blessing! :clapping: I know how you feel! You see I am a Catholic and ride a motorcycle and joined CMA. (Christian Motorcyclists Association)

BIG MISTAKE as they are all Protestant and they are the kind who glared at me when I’d mention the Blessed Mother!

However, one “good” thing happened - - - I got to hang on the cross with Christ and really live the Scripture that says:
“If the world hates you, realized it hated me first.”
John 15:18


Blessings,
Joanie
 
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Richardols:
Yes, I see that your reply was true given that you live in rural Arkansas, but I would have thought that the discrimination you met was all due to your being Catholic, rather than Irish as so many of those illiterate Baxter County hillbillies are Scotch-Irish at least in part.
I live in Stone County, not Baxter County.

And this incident occurred in Newport News, Virginia.

Will I see you at the Rose Dinner Saturday?
 
vern humphrey:
Will I see you at the Rose Dinner Saturday?
I really hope so. My wife is about to have 30 days of radiation treatment, and she’s very nervous about it (even though the chemotherapy wasn’t bad, everyone says that radiation wil be painful) so I may have to go to New York.
 
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