The Priest Home Alone

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Most certainly not me! I was just responding to those who said there were. Even if such was the case, the Archdiocese of the Military Services surely has ecclesiastical power to reject these candidates for chaplaincy and send them back to their home (territorial) dioceses.
They have that ability and the military also screens all chaplains as they do any other officer. I forgot to comment on that earlier.

7 chaplains have recieved the Congressional Medal of Honor since the Civil War. All of them were Catholic priests. You might check out Catholic War Veterans
I am noticing that the links within the page seem to be lacking

You might also check out some of the stories at the Catholics in the Military website.
 
Speaking as one who is well acquainted with both married (Eastern rites, former Protestants and Orthodox) and celibate priests, I’ve observed that married priests stand in awe of their celibate brothers, and wholeheartedly endorse the western Church’s discipline of celibacy in the priesthood.

The men who have chosen to life a life of selfless service to the Church stand in a special way as icons of Christ for us all in a way that a married man cannot. Even in Orthodoxy, where married clergy are the norm, there are celibate monk priests from whose ranks alone bishops are chosen.

The Western Church may someday be ready to accept a married priesthood, but first the Church has to understand and appreciate those who “have become eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom.” Their service and sacrifice is so far misunderstood that many see it as a perversion of the natural order. Until that attitude changes, the Western Church will not be ready for a married clergy, other than for the few exceptions that are currently allowed.
Judging by your name, I think the profundity of your making this statement has been missed by many here.

*Khouria: (Arabic) *from the word khoury, meaning “priest”. A priest’s wife.
 
While 20% of chaplains were Catholic priests, they accounted for about 50% of discipline cases. Protestant chaplains who were married with children had less temptation.
Many are called, few are chosen.

Protestant chaplains may have fewer temptations, but they also have fewer graces. Becoming a ‘minister’ is not a sacrament, and confers no specific graces.
 
This tread caught my attention and I’ve read through it. I’d like to add a few thoughts of my own. For those who don’t know me here on the forums, I am a Catholic priest serving in Eastern Montana and as a chaplain in the Air Force Reserve.

First thing to note is that the article is from Aug, '01 which was before 9/11 so the war stance of America magizine does not work as an arguement, but I agree that America has a bias.

Those who mentioned the idea of inviting the priest over have something there. Priests are a part of many families, but are often not included in what is going on. It is easy to leave the priest in the rectory, or in the case of the military, in his home and forget that they are there. Not everyone likes every priest they’ve had, but usually someone likes the priest who is in the parish. Make sure you encourage people to invite the priests they like to dinner, or out, sometime. (Did you do anything in your parish for Priesthood Sunday last month?) After I was mobilized in Nov, '01 for eleven months, I had several military families who reached out to me as their priest to make sure I had plenty to do and to be a part of their families. Some of those families have even come to Montana to visit me. It would also be helpful to spend more time in prayer praying for vocations so priests are less likely to be assigned to parishes by themselves, or that they would have other priests who are assigned closer to their location. (When I am in my western parish, I am 85 miles from another priest. I’m 45 miles from a priest in my eastern parish.)

A life of prayer is important for priests. It helps them build that intimate relationship with God that is so important to their lives. If priests would go to the church or chapel when tempted, it would do a lot to prevent the “problems” that have been reported.

On the celibacy issue, I would not be able to serve my parish adequately if I had a family. I’ve seen the struggles that face many Protestant ministers with families. They have twice as many extended family emergencies that take them away from their parishes (two extended families once they get married). They also have a boat load of immediate family problems – wives who are sick, children who are sick, teachers that must be visited, family issues, etc. Celibacy truly is a benefit to the church and understanding celibacy as a gift from God instead of a burden makes a difference in the outlook by the priests and the people they serve. Seminaries today have been doing a better job helping priests see this gift.

Some priests are just naturally more outgoing and appear flirty. That does not mean they don’t take their promises seriously. It means they like having fun with people.

I hope this give you all some insight from a priest on the issues.
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Preists of the Latin Rite lead celibate lives because Our Lord lived a celibate life. Because St. Paul counsels celibacy as the greater good.
Celibacy is required under the discipline of the Latin Church for all of these reasons.
So, if what you write is correct, this statement is a rule ‘Made by man’ and man is by no mean perfect. Tell me right now, right here. I have my bible in front of me, as I write this. Where can I look up my book, that comes only from the word of God, that priests need to live celibate lives.

shae
 
So, if what you write is correct, this statement is a rule ‘Made by man’ and man is by no mean perfect. Tell me right now, right here. I have my bible in front of me, as I write this. Where can I look up my book, that comes only from the word of God, that priests need to live celibate lives.

shae
Huh? Have you read this thread? Who would make this up? You gotta be kidding.

Tell me right now, right here where the Bible says that the Church does not have the authority to establish discipline and order according to the guidance of Sacred Scripture? Does Our Lord not say “Follow me”? Is the Scriptural preference for celibacy insufficient grounds for the Church to prefer it as well? The charism of celibacy is a very great grace, a gift to the Church and to the individual.

So yes: the rule is made by the Church following the patter of Scripture. That does not make it a “rule made by man” because the Church is not a human institution. Could this discipline change? Yes. Should it? No. It is a gift from God.

You want Scripture? Matt. 19:11 & 12. I Cor 7 for starters. It is actually easier to demonstrate the scriptural preferance for celibate than for married clergy.
 
Fr. thank for clearifying that and yes Idid do some thing for the newly ordained priest at the church i go to. I took him out to the movies along with another newly ordained priest from another church i go to sometimes. we just had fun and hungout got to know alittle more about them. One of them thinks that they should be allowed to mary i agreed and so did the other one. So don’t know. There are some other priests that i know thinks so to but that is just their opinion and mine as well bue don’t know. I’m probabaly ain’t gonna discuss this one this forum anymore.
 
Fr. thank for clearifying that and yes Idid do some thing for the newly ordained priest at the church i go to. I took him out to the movies along with another newly ordained priest from another church i go to sometimes. we just had fun and hungout got to know alittle more about them. One of them thinks that they should be allowed to mary i agreed and so did the other one. So don’t know. There are some other priests that i know thinks so to but that is just their opinion and mine as well bue don’t know. I’m probabaly ain’t gonna discuss this one this forum anymore.
With all due respect, I advise you not to invite priests out to movie with you. You are a girl, they are not just any men - but priests - You must understand that priests can be very tempted. They have a life time commitment to God, and they, newly ordained priests know very well about this.

For you, as a good Catholic, be responsible and aware of this! It is up to you to discuss about this in this forum, but it is better to stop going out to the movies, a place alike, with priests. I never had a thought about inviting some young Sisters out to the movies with me, and I am sure sisters never had thought about going out with me. We leave no room for Satan to work in this situation.

Peace!
 
Well, yeah, but it was only one time its not like its all the time. it was just to do something for them on priesthood sunday. Its nothing to make a big deal out of. just to show how much they are appreciated. thats all, I have lot of respect for them, they are good friends of mine.
 
Oh yeah, i trust them very much to know that they wouldn’t do anything they aren’t suppose to. they are very respectful an d plus i wasn’t alone with them, my cousins went wtih us to the movies on that day. so its cool.
 
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With all due respect, I advise you not to invite priests out to movie with you. You are a girl, they are not just any men - but priests - You must understand that priests can be very tempted. They have a life time commitment to God, and they, newly ordained priests know very well about this.

For you, as a good Catholic, be responsible and aware of this! It is up to you to discuss about this in this forum, but it is better to stop going out to the movies, a place alike, with priests. I never had a thought about inviting some young Sisters out to the movies with me, and I am sure sisters never had thought about going out with me. We leave no room for Satan to work in this situation.
I so agree with you. It is VERY easy for a woman to “fall in love” with the IDEA of priest. It’s VERY easy for a priest, especially a priest in his first years of active ministry, to have trouble adjusting to celibate life outside the seminary community and to seek the company of an unattached woman his own age. The relationship starts pure, but it’s too easy for it to descend . . . This has ruined many otherwise good vocations. This has hurt many women. It’s playing with fire to even “double date” to the movies with clergy.

When, in rare cases, the Church allows for married clergy, they must be in a very stable, demonstrated over the long term, marriage. In those cases, the woman must be committed to the man; when he is changed by ordination to priest the relationship changes, but she is still committed to the man she married, not the idea of being married to a priest. There is no marriage after ordination. I hope I’m making sense.
 
Whoa, it wasn’t even a date or double date. it was just to do something for them on priesthood sunday. It was just showing them how much they are appreciated. I know there isn’t any marriage after ordination but that can chnge only if the pope allows it. Nevermind I’m not going to discuss it anymore don’t know why I keep coming to this topic.
 
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