The Pro-Life Ron Paul

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When Ron Paul spoke at the Ames Straw Poll earlier this month, he did not start by launching into a tirade about the Federal Reserve or lamenting the United States’s military policy in Afghanistan. Instead, Paul first spoke about abortion.
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“We must be pro-life or you cannot be pro-liberty the way I understand it,” Paul said at Ames. Speaking about his experience as a medical student in the Sixties, he talked about seeing one premature baby deliberately being allowed to die and another baby, also premature, being rescued by a diligent medical staff. “My conclusion that very day is you cannot have relative value for life and deal with that.” he observed. “We cannot play God and make those decisions. All life is precious.”
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Full Article: nationalreview.com/articles/275684/pro-life-ron-paul-katrina-trinko#
 
AntalKalnoky said:
Again, Ron Paul and All GOP Candidates are preciselly against Catholic Social teachings principles, as have been Reagan and GW Bush, who Created All the Incurarable Problems of the USA. Catholic Social Teaching is that of Christ: Help the Poorest, most disadvanteged. As the Richesrt have, to Pay their Fair Taxes, and help the Public, not themselves as now.
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Did you not read the post?

Or your own?
 
Leaving to one side that the top 10% of earners pay 71% of the taxes, while the bottom half pays only 4%, and lots of people don’t pay any income tax at all (but it’s the rich who aren’t paying their fair share, sure)…Anyone who knew anything would know that the real problem with Ron Paul is he favors legalizing drugs and prostitution, and abolishing any state recognition of marriage, straight or gay, whatsoever.

I mean, sure, he’s not in favor of murder, but come on.
 
AntalKalnoky said:
Again, Ron Paul and All GOP Candidates are preciselly against Catholic Social teachings principles, as have been Reagan and GW Bush, who Created All the Incurarable Problems of the USA. Catholic Social Teaching is that of Christ: Help the Poorest, most disadvanteged. As the Richesrt have, to Pay their Fair Taxes, and help the Public, not themselves as now.
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Christ did NOT teach that we must be charitable by stealing OTHER PEOPLE's money at the point of a gun. BTW, I support Palin, b/c I think that Paul is off the wall on security issues. :o Rob
 
Hastrman said:
Anyone who knew anything would know that the real problem with Ron Paul is he favors legalizing drugs and prostitution, and abolishing any state recognition of marriage, straight or gay, whatsoever.
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Actually I thought he said those should be STATE issues - not to be handled by the federal government.
 
AntalKalnoky said:
Again, Ron Paul and All GOP Candidates are preciselly against Catholic Social teachings principles, as have been Reagan and GW Bush, who Created All the Incurarable Problems of the USA.
  • Catholic Social Teaching is that of Christ: Help the Poorest, most disadvanteged. As the Richesrt have, to Pay their Fair Taxes, and help the Public, not themselves as now.
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Can you show us where the church has endorsed or opposed either parties solution to helping the poor?
 
AntalKalnoky said:
Again, Ron Paul and All GOP Candidates are preciselly against Catholic Social teachings principles, as have been Reagan and GW Bush, who Created All the Incurarable Problems of the USA. Catholic Social Teaching is that of Christ: Help the Poorest, most disadvanteged. As the Richesrt have, to Pay their Fair Taxes, and help the Public, not themselves as now.
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Hi

I like your post and I think it’s about time that someone pointed out this, especially since everyone on this forum has been saying no one can vote for Obama because his beliefs/actions are contrary to Catholic teaching.
 
Gift_from_God said:
Hi

I like your post and I think it’s about time that someone pointed out this, especially since everyone on this forum has been saying no one can vote for Obama because his beliefs/actions are contrary to Catholic teaching.
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Can you show us where the Church has endorsed or opposed either parties solution to helping the poor? Is support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand contrary to the teachings of the Church?
 
SamH said:
Actually I thought he said those should be STATE issues - not to be handled by the federal government.
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And do the states have the right to legalize those?

No. He’s a zealot. And not the cool kind with four mandibles and an energy sword.
 
estesbob said:
Can you show us where the Church has endorsed or opposed either parties solution to helping the poor?
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I don’t know how many times I have to say this before you finally understand my rationale, but I will say it again; there is no Church teaching on who you can or can’t vote for. Hence, I can’t give you documents because they don’t exist. The point I made earlier is if all you people are so opposed to candidates who are against Catholic social teachings, you should oppose all of the American candidates because they all oppose Catholic teaching. For me personally, I don’t think about my religion when I vote because no one dictates who I’m going to vote for except for me.
 
Gift_from_God said:
I don’t know how many times I have to say this before you finally understand my rationale, but I will say it again; there is no Church teaching on who you can or can’t vote for. Hence, I can’t give you documents because they don’t exist. The point I made earlier is if all you people are so opposed to candidates who are against Catholic social teachings, you should oppose all of the American candidates because they all oppose Catholic teaching. For me personally, I don’t think about my religion when I vote because no one dictates who I’m going to vote for except for me.
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Uh, the Catholic Church says the government’s economic policies have to try to benefit everyone in society, not just one class.

It does not say whether that benefit is to come about through statist, supply-side, guild-based, or for that matter hunter-gatherer/barter economics.

Therefore, apart from fringe jackasses like Ayn Rand, nobody in American politics opposes Catholic social teaching. Or can you honestly be so thunderingly ill-informed as not to know that economic conservatives argue that their policies are better for the poor, just as much as the economic left?
 
Hastrman said:
can you honestly be so thunderingly ill-informed as not to know that economic conservatives argue that their policies are better for the poor, just as much as the economic left?
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Nope, not ill-informed. America’s GOP just doesn’t care for poor people right now because they’re so fundamentally corrupt because of corporations, hence they can never be trusted with the economy
 
Gift_from_God said:
Nope, not ill-informed. America’s GOP just doesn’t care for poor people right now because they’re so fundamentally corrupt because of corporations, hence they can never be trusted with the economy
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You really need to check out which party gets all the corporate donations. Ain’t the one with the elephant.
 
Hastrman said:
You really need to check out which party gets all the corporate donations. Ain’t the one with the elephant.
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Oh, yes it is. Especially from the oil and gas industry. I’d look it up, but that may take a little while. When I get around to it, I’ll inform you. Deal? 🙂
 
Gift_from_God said:
Oh, yes it is. Especially from the oil and gas industry. I’d look it up, but that may take a little while. When I get around to it, I’ll inform you. Deal? 🙂
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No, I’m good. I have no interest in your exposé of the crimes of Emmanuel Goldstein and the virtues of IngSoc.
 
Gift_from_God said:
I don’t know how many times I have to say this before you finally understand my rationale, but I will say it again; there is no Church teaching on who you can or can’t vote for. Hence, I can’t give you documents because they don’t exist. The point I made earlier is if all you people are so opposed to candidates who are against Catholic social teachings, you should oppose all of the American candidates because they all oppose Catholic teaching. For me personally, I don’t think about my religion when I vote because no one dictates who I’m going to vote for except for me.
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But you have offered no proof whatsoever that all Amercian candidates oppose catholic Social teaching. It is no surprise you dont consider your faith when voting-that is preety much the hallmark of a liberal Catholic.
 
Gift_from_God said:
Oh, yes it is. Especially from the oil and gas industry. I’d look it up, but that may take a little while. When I get around to it, I’ll inform you. Deal? 🙂
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Democrats raised far more money from political action committees this past election than Republicans did, even counting the new “Super PACs” President Obama claimed were giving the GOP a corporate-funded unfair advantage.
Final campaign finance figures from the Federal Election Commission have come in, and they show a very different picture from the one painted by Obama and most of the media. The Democrats’ advantage in money from traditional PACs was just about 10 times the size of the Republicans’ advantage from the new Super PACs.
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The most prolific PAC in the country belonged to Honeywell International, a technology giant. About 55 percent of the PAC’s $5.6 million this election went to Democratic candidates. And much of Honeywell’s Republican money was spent trying to protect establishment Republicans from more conservative Tea Party challengers – Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Bob Bennett (Utah), Mike Castle (Del.), and Trey Grayson (Ky.) all got Honeywell checks in their failed primary bids.
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Obama’s liked to pose as the scourge of Wall Street, but here again, the facts clash with Obama’s rhetoric. Democrats outraised Republicans from the “securities and investment” industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, including a 27.2 percent advantage in PAC money from the industry. Chuck Schumer was by far the top recipient.
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Read more at the Washington Examiner: washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/rhetoric-aside-dems-tops-special-interests#ixzz1WRkA6his
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Sorry, but you are wrong.
 
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