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Ricardo_Gomez
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Now that is funny, I like it.
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Semper_Fi_1
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miguel delgado:
I couldn’t agree more brother.
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Semper Fi:
Is that the best you can do, Semper Fi? Miguel, you character reminds me of this little kid in pre-school wearing a flourecent yellow shirt and saying “Please like me, please like me”
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Shlemele
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She is never named so this is open to interpetation. That and many believe that the book of the “Song of Songs (or Song of Soloman)” is a description of the relationship between God and his church, if we take your interpetation again that is Mary. I don’t think this is accurate, my church sees it as a guide to married relationships and I think the relationship described in S.O.S. would offend most Catholics if you are stating that this is a personification of Mary. Let me emphaisise this NOT EVERY WOMAN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE IS MARY, NOT EVERY MARY IN THE BIBLE IS THE MOTHER OF GOD. I especially like the way you have failed to mention how this goes against the Bibles comand to have no other God.
Ok here is a wild prediction, I predict that Ricardo will leave out the last sentance and stay true to form, instead berating those who don’t agree with him and telling poeple he “won’t do their homework for them” when asked tp support his beliefs… let’s watch
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Ricardo_Gomez
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She is never named so this is open to interpetation. That and many believe that the book of the “Song of Songs (or Song of Soloman)” is a description of the relationship between God and his church, if we take your interpetation again that is Mary. I don’t think this is accurate, my church sees it as a guide to married relationships and I think the relationship described in S.O.S. would offend most Catholics if you are stating that this is a personification of Mary. Let me emphaisise this NOT EVERY WOMAN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE IS MARY, NOT EVERY MARY IN THE BIBLE IS THE MOTHER OF GOD. I especially like the way you have failed to mention how this goes against the Bibles comand to have no other God.
Ok here is a wild prediction, I predict that Ricardo will leave out the last sentance and stay true to form, instead berating those who don’t agree with him and telling poeple he “won’t do their homework for them” when asked tp support his beliefs… let’s watch
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We still on the same token. I do not have to prove nothing. The interpretation is not mine. Let's just think for a minute, if worshipping Mary is not part of the Catholic doctrine why would I be having such an understanding? I take it really serious, and I do not play with it. Seriously, if you do not want to call mr Rivas talk to your priest of choice about Mary and the chapter 12 of the book of Revelation.
To me if the Catholic doctrine teaches that our mother is mary, that is good enough because I understand it. And I could do some more research on the subject to satisfy the audience, but I am still in college with double major I am on finals and I am carrying 18 units. I cannot just stop what I am doing to satisfy the audience with something so simple that it could be answered by the local priest. Plus, I would feel better if all of you could go just ask your priest of choice. I gave you a couple of phone numbers so you can expand your knowledge by calling.
And I have another prediction, if you go dig on the subject maybe your career as Catholic will be done.
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Ricardo_Gomez
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I especially like the way you have failed to mention how this goes against the Bibles comand to have no other God. (quote)She is never named so this is open to interpetation. That and many believe that the book of the “Song of Songs (or Song of Soloman)” is a description of the relationship between God and his church, if we take your interpetation again that is Mary. I don’t think this is accurate, my church sees it as a guide to married relationships and I think the relationship described in S.O.S. would offend most Catholics if you are stating that this is a personification of Mary. Let me emphaisise this NOT EVERY WOMAN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE IS MARY, NOT EVERY MARY IN THE BIBLE IS THE MOTHER OF GOD. I especially like the way you have failed to mention how this goes against the Bibles comand to have no other God.
Ok here is a wild prediction, I predict that Ricardo will leave out the last sentance and stay true to form, instead berating those who don’t agree with him and telling poeple he “won’t do their homework for them” when asked tp support his beliefs… let’s watch
I think it will be good for you to look at another thread of mines call Exodus 20:3/images. I know what I am talking about and I am not one of those fanatics easy to find.
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Ricardo_Gomez
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People, I think you guys have to do something about this guy (Ricardo Gomez) because I just read on another thread titled Question For Protestants From a Protestant that one of our beloved sister Subrosa wrote,
“Mary is the highest among Saints and Queen of Heaven She is our chief intercessor and shows us to Her Son when ask Her to. We Christians are all Her offsping. READ REVELATION CHAPTER 12 FOR THIS UNDERSTANDING”.
“Mary is the highest among Saints and Queen of Heaven She is our chief intercessor and shows us to Her Son when ask Her to. We Christians are all Her offsping. READ REVELATION CHAPTER 12 FOR THIS UNDERSTANDING”.
I mean some body has to do something because the word is spreading, or maybe that is the way it is and you guys do not know about it?
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Shlemele
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I have talked to several priests about the issue of “Praying to the saints”. In no way did they indicate that ANY of them (nor any on this boards except you bear that in mnd) worship Mary.
Ok let’s try this I’ll prove my point and you do the same.
Now feel free to argue with the Vatican but don’t expect to ge too far.
BTW I had 18 units then 20 units my sentior year, it ain’t that bad, you just have to learn to go without sleep
Ok let’s try this I’ll prove my point and you do the same.
Directly from www.Vatican.va catechism on the Vaticans home page
Now feel free to argue with the Vatican but don’t expect to ge too far.
BTW I had 18 units then 20 units my sentior year, it ain’t that bad, you just have to learn to go without sleep
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Shlemele
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Big distinction there between Intercessor and God
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Shlemele
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I was just thinking, how twisted is it that you have a protestant citing the Catechism to you. If that doesn’t tell you haw far off ya are I don’t know what will!
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Ricardo_Gomez
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Ok, can you please explain me what is it with the Mexican people who does not show to mass ever, but have an image of the Virgin Mary on their living room and before they leave the house they worship this image with one or two prayers?
I do not have any images in my house or wallet, because I worship Jesus Christ by applying His teachings to my life. Nevertheless, it is something that is happening even as we speak. My only bussiness with the church is the study, and the teachings. Now if you tell me that my Mexican people is not practicing a Catholic teaching, I think I would find something else to do because I cannot deny what is happening, and I just cannot go against the Catholic teachings.
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Shlemele
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I’m just showing you what the Catholic church teaches, where you go from there is up to you. You can say “screw it” to the whole thing or raise awareness of this mis-conception. Your call.
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Mickey
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Ricardo Gomez:
Okay. A dozen priests say that you are wrong–The Blessed Mother is never to be worshipped. Any more advice?
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Ricardo Gomez:
“but have an image of the Virgin Mary on their living room and before they leave the house they worship this image with one or two prayers?”
point 1:we DONT worships Mary.
point 2: we DONT worships images.
you sound like the person who is going the wrong way in a freeway when the radio host says “there is a lunatic driving the wrong way in the freeway”
and he responds: one??!!! there are hundreds.
saludos from the boy in the yellow shirt yelling like me, like me.
(you dont get it??? scrool back up a little to #83
hahahahahahaha this guy is impossible, please check out the first part that reads:
“but have an image of the Virgin Mary on their living room and before they leave the house they worship this image with one or two prayers?”
point 1:we DONT worships Mary.
point 2: we DONT worships images.
you sound like the person who is going the wrong way in a freeway when the radio host says “there is a lunatic driving the wrong way in the freeway”
and he responds: one??!!! there are hundreds.
saludos from the boy in the yellow shirt yelling like me, like me.
(you dont get it??? scrool back up a little to #83
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miguel_delgado
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ricardo:
i ask you this in a PM but fail to answer, so maybe here you will (please do)
DO YOU WORSHIP MARY AS A GODDESS???
IS SHE EQUAL TO JESUS OR GOD???
a simple yes or no will do
i ask you this in a PM but fail to answer, so maybe here you will (please do)
DO YOU WORSHIP MARY AS A GODDESS???
IS SHE EQUAL TO JESUS OR GOD???
a simple yes or no will do
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Ricardo_Gomez
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I like your tone. Look I do not go to church, in fact in the last ten years I have been in church only two or three times. I do study the scripture with a special interest in prophecy; therefor, I know who, and how I have to worship. The answer to your question is no, I do not worship or have any images because I worship Christ by applying his teachings to my life. We could pray to God only and not try to apply Christ’s teachings to our lives, and the general believe will be there is only one God. My understanding of the scripture is that if we do not apply Christ teachings to our lives there will be no spiritual growth because with our behavior we are praising other gods. I think Mary is a goodess? NO. But why is mary the only god of most Mexicans? You tell me.
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UBERROGO
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Well what I meant may have been based on a misunderstanding on my part. I was under the impression that Coptic and Orthodox were considered , if I may use the phrase, less than Roman Catholic but more than Protestant.<<(I just made that phrase up!) And my thinking was along the lines of since the Orthodox and Coptics weren’t RC are they part of these false prophet?Any clairification would only do me good, and if you could post a link to another thread , that would be cool too.
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miguel delgado:
2:we DONT worships images (quote)
First of all let me apologize for I wans’t clear enough.
IF you live in Monterrey, Mexico most likely you know what I am talking about that is why I said is like you wearing a flourecent yellow shirt or a shirt with the Virgin Mary, and still denied the issue, plus asking for acceptance.
PLEASE BE REAL, OUR CULTURE IS ABOUT WORSHIPPING THE VIRGIN MARY AND THE SAINTS. YOU JUST DO NOT WANT TO ADMITE IT. But all of this is not so bad, in fact I am going to have two weeks vacation and I am going to use those days to research this issue. I know we worship Mary and the Saints, as a matter of fact last week I was talking to a lady from Durango who was telling me that Malverde is a Saint. I told her the Catholic Church has not made him a Saint yet. She brought the fact that Malverde has a litte Church-Sanctuary in Mexico, and she said she went there last year, and saw many, many acts of “faith” towards this “saint”, she end up telling me Malverde has more followers than god.
Point 1:we DONT worships Mary.
2:we DONT worships images (quote)
First of all let me apologize for I wans’t clear enough.
IF you live in Monterrey, Mexico most likely you know what I am talking about that is why I said is like you wearing a flourecent yellow shirt or a shirt with the Virgin Mary, and still denied the issue, plus asking for acceptance.
PLEASE BE REAL, OUR CULTURE IS ABOUT WORSHIPPING THE VIRGIN MARY AND THE SAINTS. YOU JUST DO NOT WANT TO ADMITE IT. But all of this is not so bad, in fact I am going to have two weeks vacation and I am going to use those days to research this issue. I know we worship Mary and the Saints, as a matter of fact last week I was talking to a lady from Durango who was telling me that Malverde is a Saint. I told her the Catholic Church has not made him a Saint yet. She brought the fact that Malverde has a litte Church-Sanctuary in Mexico, and she said she went there last year, and saw many, many acts of “faith” towards this “saint”, she end up telling me Malverde has more followers than god.
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Ricardo_Gomez
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I am going start collecitng data, please mention the cities and state where this advice is coming from.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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Ricardo_Gomez
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Like I said before, I take this stuff very serious, and Moday is my last final. After that I am going to start a research on this issue I think is interesting because I know we as Mexicans worship the Virgin Mary and the Saints. That is a fact that I cannot deny because if I did I won’t be taking God seriously.
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