The "Punk Priest".... Everything about this just looks horribly wrong...

[satiscognitum]

Quote a source for this reasoning, please.

Read her books to find out what she believes. I suspect the problem could also be that you don’t have a firm grasp of Catholic doctrine. For a recent convert with likely only RCIA instruction, which is woefully inadequate at best, seeing this type of thing is extremely difficult.

SC

 

[thechrismyster]

Read her books to find out what she believes. I suspect the problem could also be that you don’t have a firm grasp of Catholic doctrine. For a recent convert with likely only RCIA instruction, which is woefully inadequate at best, seeing this type of thing is extremely difficult.

wow. that was self indulgent of a post as i’ve ever read. you offered no evidence to your accusation of her writings… maybe i can help you. start with these…

Quotes of Mother Teresa
“Keep the joy of loving God in your heart and share this joy with all you meet especially your family. Be holy – let us pray.”

 "I once picked up a woman from a garbage dump and     she was burning with fever; she was in her last days and her only lament was: ‘My son     did this to me.’ I begged her: You must forgive your son. In a moment of madness,     when he was not himself, he did a thing he regrets. Be a mother to him, forgive him. It     took me a long time to make her say: ‘I forgive my son.’ Just before she died in     my arms, she was able to say that with a real forgiveness. She was not concerned that she     was dying. The breaking of the heart was that her son did not want her. This is something     you and I can understand."

 "Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We     have only today. Let us begin."

 "Like Jesus we belong to the world living not for     ourselves but for others. The joy of the Lord is our strength."

 "I follow Christ:
Jesus is my God,
Jesus is my Spouse,
Jesus is my Life,
Jesus is my only Love,
Jesus is my All in All;
Jesus is my Everything."
     Make us worthy, Lord,          to serve those people throughout the world who live and die in poverty          and hunger. Give them through our hands, this day, their daily bread,          and by our understanding love, give them peace and joy.

    I heard the call to give up all and follow Christ into the slums to          serve Him among the poorest of the poor. It was an order. 
    I was to leave the convent and help the poor while living among them.         
    
    When a poor person dies of hunger, it has not happened because God did          not take care of him or her. 
    It has happened because neither you nor I wanted to give that person          what he or she needed.          
    
    You and          I, we are the Church, no? We have to share with our people. Suffering          today is because people are hoarding, not giving, not sharing. 
    Jesus made it very clear. Whatever you do to the least of my brethren,          you do it to me.
    Give a glass of water, you give it to me. Receive a little
    child, you receive me. 
     Everybody          today seems to be in such a terrible rush, anxious for greater          developments and greater riches and so on, so that children have very          little time for their parents. Parents have very little time for each          other, and in the home begins the disruption of peace of the world.
     If          we really want to love we must learn how to forgive.

I guess you are a little more aware of her shortcomings than those who would have her Beatified and Canonized a Saint.

but now, lets not threadjack, this discussion is for another thread, back to the Priest!

maybe you can read a little about her and educate yourself before you give wordy testament to the fact you have nothing to say.

ewtn.com/motherteresa/index.htm

 

[Joysong]

Hi Bennie,

We could have guessed the source without too much difficulty, huh? Here’s one that google found.

However, as the Church began to implement institutional change formalized by Vatican II (1962-1965), Coomaraswamy grew increasingly alienated, seeing these changes as the abandonment of Catholic Tradition, saw the New Mass as gravely sinful and ceased attending these services. As a result, Coomaraswamy became involved with the Catholic Traditionalist movement. He also forbade his children from attending these services. When his wife, displeased with this, sought the advice and intervention of Mother Teresa, she advised his wife to defy his decision by continuing to send their children to these services, thus beginning a series of polemics between the two (that is, Coomaraswamy vs. Mother Teresa; see his website for transcripts).

Within the Catholic Traditionalist movement, Coomaraswamy initially grew close to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who appointed him Professor of Church History at the St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary of his organization, the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), in Ridgefield, Connecticut, a position he held for about five years until 1983. While there, he ideologically began to move towards Sedevacantism, and he successfully influenced a significant number of faculty and students to subscribe to Sedevacantism, resulting in the secession of a group of priests and seminarians from Lefebvre —

There’s more, but I think you get the drift. Some people are so brainwashed by these websites that it is a wonder they can keep a moral conscience.

Is it TRUE?

Is it CHARITABLE?

Is it NECESSARY?

None of the above 3 seem to have been applied in the judgment of this poster to denigrate Mother Teresa.

I suspect these types of irrational reasonings are the very basis for the Punk Priest’s comments about traditionists.

 

[Bennie_P]

Read her books to find out what she believes. I suspect the problem could also be that you don’t have a firm grasp of Catholic doctrine. For a recent convert with likely only RCIA instruction, which is woefully inadequate at best, seeing this type of thing is extremely difficult.

SC

NO, nO No, you can’t say that, I have been a student of religion for many, many years and been around the Catholic Church for 22 years, just finished two years of Catholic Theology Classes. I want to know where you, or who gave you this line of reasoning about Mother Theresa?

I have an “OK” “grasp” of Catholic Doctrine, not an expert, but a grasp.

Besides the priest is cool and so is Mother Teresa.

 

[satiscognitum]

wow. that was self indulgent of a post as i’ve ever read. you offered no evidence to your accusation of her writings… maybe i can help you. start with these…

I have several of her books and I have actually read them too. I’ll quote some of that later when I have time and access to them.

You and I, we are the Church, no?

That depends on who “you and I” are, doesn’t it?

Jesus made it very clear. Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do it to me.

Quite true.

but now, lets not threadjack, this discussion is for another thread, back to the Priest!

That’s fine, I’m done here.

maybe you can read a little about her and educate yourself before you give wordy testament to the fact you have nothing to say.

I have read her, I didn’t give a “wordy testament”, and you are a very rude person. Is that being Christlike?

Good Day.

SC

 

[satiscognitum]

NO, nO No, you can’t say that, I have been a student of religion for many, many years and been around the Catholic Church for 22 years, just finished two years of Catholic Theology Classes. I want to know where you, or who gave you this line of reasoning about Mother Theresa?

I have an “OK” “grasp” of Catholic Doctrine, not an expert, but a grasp.

Besides the priest is cool and so is Mother Teresa.

Where did you study Catholic theology? What books did you use, and I mean the titles and authors of the manuals that you learned from?

SC

 

[Brian_C]

Regardless of who read what books if some on here don’t turn up the charity meter (as well as quite going off topic) this thread is gonna be short-lived.

 

[thechrismyster]

I have read her

reading and comprehension are two distinct things.

i find it interesting that a woman who is on her way to sainthood is suspect by minds who think they know more than the Magesterium, The Church in her infinite wisdom has, i suppose, falsely elevated Mother Theresa? Did the Catholic minds at the Vatican read her wrong too?

hence the protest of this good Priest…

it’s all cyclic, i suppose, round and round like hamsters on the wheel of dissent and pride. we dissent because of pride, we’re prideful because of dissent.

Am i seriously having to defend a Priest AND Mother Theresa on a Catholic Board??? WHAT THE…
it is a strange time in which we live.

 

[theweeper]

just finished reading Loving Jesus and i’ll have to say if i were half dead in the street i’d want mother teresa there and not satiscognitum i’ve had no RCIA i’m not a catholic but even i can recognize a saint when i see one. the Church can’t make saints they just call them what they all ready are. right? as far as the preist goes. it’s weird.

 

[Bennie_P]

Where did you study Catholic theology? What books did you use, and I mean the titles and authors of the manuals that you learned from?

SC

In the last two years I have read more then 100 books on the Catholic Church, some good, some bad. But I always go to the source of Authority when I have have doubts - here is my back up - The Source

Despite that, I had just asked you how you came up with your conclusions on Mother Teresa. And if you want to continue on a discussion about her, then please start another thread just about her. I appoligize for asking you to prove yourself.

Anyway, I think the Punk Priest, in my opinion, is Orthodox and follows Church Teachings, despite being a little wierd-

 

[Lepanto]

FYI, I just spoke with a friend yesterday about the old Mass. As a former altar server, he observed the priest coming in plastered every morning and garbling the prayers in a 12-minute record. Now to keep one’s head in the sand that all TLM priests are 100% holy and orthodox as compared to those who pray the new liturgy is a fallacy - don’t even go there! Did you know that a number of years PRIOR TO Vatican II

Well then they were wrong too.

 

[Lepanto]

My question is: does he have any hotty liturgical dancers when he celebrates Mass?

Yeah, and a Mosh Pit instead of a baptismal font would be cool, too.

 

[satiscognitum]

In the last two years I have read more then 100 books on the Catholic Church, some good, some bad. But I always go to the source of Authority when I have have doubts - here is my back up - The Source

Have you studied any dogmatic or moral theology manuals?

Despite that, I had just asked you how you came up with your conclusions on Mother Teresa.

I simply read what she wrote. I’ll quote it later on a new thread.

And if you want to continue on a discussion about her, then please start another thread just about her.

I will do that in time.

I appoligize for asking you to prove yourself.

Oh, no need to apologize. I’m not as sensitive as some others on this thread.

Anyway, I think the Punk Priest, in my opinion, is Orthodox and follows Church Teachings, despite being a little wierd

I prefer that priests not be weird.

SC

 

[satiscognitum]

reading and comprehension are two distinct things.

Yes, they are. Do you say everything by implication?

 

[Lepanto]

and i’m surprised you post things from a blatantly anti-Catholic website. they smear Pope John Paul the Second all over the place on that site.

That may be true, but does that invalidate the photos in any way?

The photos were lifted off of the PP’s own website and speak for themselves.

 

[Sheeniac]

Several quotes throughout here, in the media, in our daily conversations want to label someone either conservative or liberal. When it relates to faith, I prefer to use that someone is orthodox in their faith or not. Orthodox simply meaning that they strictly follow the Catholic church’s teachngs.

I would label this priest orthodox and I applaud him.

Orthodoxy is the most important thing. I would take this Priest over some traditionally dressed but heresy spouting priest who calls the Pope ‘an old man in Rome’. Yes - I heard that used to describe our own B16.

 

[satiscognitum]

just finished reading Loving Jesus and i’ll have to say if i were half dead in the street i’d want mother teresa there and not satiscognitum i’ve had no RCIA i’m not a catholic but even i can recognize a saint when i see one. the Church can’t make saints they just call them what they all ready are. right? as far as the preist goes. it’s weird.

My apostolate is not to care for the poor in the streets. I do help those who I can help while taking care of my duties of state. I have a family to provide for and educate.

If I found you half dead in the street I would help you. Would you do the same for me?

SC

 

[Bennie_P]

That may be true,** but does that invalidate the photos in any way? **

The photos were lifted off of the PP’s own website and speak for themselves.

Yes, for they are presented out of context.

 

[Lepanto]

Yes, for they are presented out of context.

What is their proper context?

 

[Lepanto]

Orthodoxy is the most important thing. I would take this Priest over some traditionally dressed but heresy spouting priest who calls the Pope ‘an old man in Rome’. Yes - I heard that used to describe our own B16.

Why must we always be anti-clerical minimalists?

Why can’t we have a Catholic culture that encourages priests who think AND speak AND act AND dress with orthodoxy?