The Remnant: SSPX reconciliation by 2 February?

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We’ll see what happens.

While Vatican 2 itself didn’t CREATE fresh dogma, and therefore was in a sense not dogmatic, neither does that necessarily mean that its documents can be safely utterly thrown out.

In as much as they clarify or elucidate existing dogmatic Church teaching, I would imagine they ARE an expression of the Magisterium and need to be taken into account.

Much as Humanae Vitae, whilst not itself an infallible or dogmatic document, nonethless IS an expression of the Church’s infallible and dogmatic teaching on contraception.
 
If, God willing, this happened, it would be a gift for the Church and the world. We all must pray for this.
 
Yes, I will be praying for this. In Singapore there in no other place to celebrate TLM except at SSPX. I really hope this goes through. I will continue praying for this with my rosary. 🙂 Aside from that, I think it will be good for Tradition to be more available to us all.
 
Seems unlikely, there is a lot more work to be done. In particular, notice that Bishop Fellay is saying this:
“We are ready to write the Creed with our own blood, sign the anti-Modernist oath, the Profession of Faith of Pope Pius IV, we accept and make our own all the Councils up to the First Vatican Council. Yet we can but confess reservations concerning the Second Vatican Council, which intended to a Council “different from the others.”
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While the Pope is saying this:
Furthermore, the Holy Father stated, there is the expectation of further steps from the four newly released bishops.
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“I trust that following from this gesture of mine will be the prompt effort on their part to complete final necessary steps to arrive to full communion with the Church,” the Bishop of Rome said, “thus giving testimony of true fidelity and true recognition of the magisterium and the authority of the Pope and the Second Vatican Council.”
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How many “members” does the SPPX have? Priests, nuns, lay-faithful?

How would this work jurisdictionwise?

The SPPX would have a personal prelature? Its own territorial bishops?

Would the FSSP then come under these bishops?

Are there problems with multi autonomous bishops in a gographic area?

Up to now in the US its been a small number of Eastern Rite bishops with their own independent territorial jurisdictions in the US.

Now we’d have a third layer with the SPPX and possibly a fourth autonomous layer with the Anglican group. I could see that leading to conflicts between bishops in the same area. Say the SPPX bishop disallows communion to those supporting abortion while the Latin Rite bishop does not, as most do not, restrict communion this way. Does this not have the potential to become problematic?
 
Has anyone heard anything else about this rumor? It’s it is already February 1st and I haven’t heard a hint of anything new.
 
Benedict108 said:
Has anyone heard anything else about this rumor? It’s it is already February 1st and I haven’t heard a hint of anything new.
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Nothing as yet; I suspect we’ll hear more tomorrow.

Time will tell.
 
I read this a few days ago too but now rumours seem to be that it’s going to be delayed a bit. 🤷 I don’t know. I am praying that Feb 2 is the day 👍
 
rien said:
How many “members” does the SPPX have? Priests, nuns, lay-faithful?

How would this work jurisdictionwise?

The SPPX would have a personal prelature? Its own territorial bishops?

Would the FSSP then come under these bishops?

Are there problems with multi autonomous bishops in a gographic area?
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I don’t see how their could be a problem, already FSSP and ICK have some locations where they both have chapels/parish’s so why not SSPX also.
 
LilyM said:
We’ll see what happens.

While Vatican 2 itself didn’t CREATE fresh dogma, and therefore was in a sense not dogmatic, neither does that necessarily mean that its documents can be safely utterly thrown out.

In as much as they clarify or elucidate existing dogmatic Church teaching, I would imagine they ARE an expression of the Magisterium and need to be taken into account.

Much as Humanae Vitae, whilst not itself an infallible or dogmatic document, nonethless IS an expression of the Church’s infallible and dogmatic teaching on contraception.
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Not wanting to get off-topic but in almost 3 years you’ve racked up almost 21,000 posts on CAF…how?? :o
 
Paradox2080 said:
Not wanting to get off-topic but in almost 3 years you’ve racked up almost 21,000 posts on CAF…how?? :o
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Lethal combination of studying online, working part-time from home … and being so gosh-darn opinionated, I guess 😃
 
Today is Feb 2 already.
The article gives no basis other than “Vatican insiders” for the Feb. 2 date. I won’t take it too seriously.
 
Neil_Anthony said:
Today is Feb 2 already.
The article gives no basis other than “Vatican insiders” for the Feb. 2 date. I won’t take it too seriously.
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Yeah, I think more time is needed. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds.
 
still waiting…

as soon as it’s done, im gonna be SOOOO SSPXing! 😃
 
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