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tweedlealice
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See Chaplet of His Holy Face. Psalm 68.1 "
“Arise, Oh God, and let your enemies scatter. Let your enemies see your Holy Face and Let them flee.”
I feel the Templers were maligned as they were wealthy. Philip VI and the Pope wanted their money and treasures. They had a strong devotion to Mary. Their call to battle was
“Deus Vault” “God Willing” May this spiritual militant message get to the Chaplins and men and bring God into this battle.
God bless our military.
in Christ’s love,
tweedlealice
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edwest2
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You’re right. There’s a show on Catholic Radio called Crossing the Goal which provides practical help for growing spiritually and encouraging listeners to overcome whatever sins plague them. It is very inspirational. For those who want to learn more, go to crossingthegoal.com
I think committed and actively encouraging one another is the way I would describe these men.
Peace,
Ed
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JimR-OCDS
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We have a men’s club in my parish which was started about 15 years ago and still going strong.
I’m not a member, but have attended meetings as a guest.
Essentially, they’re a group of men, looking for fellowship with other men of faith.
Their emphasis is on being better Christian men, husbands and fathers, which can only benefit everyone.
When they first started, some of the feminist grumbled, but the pastor who was usually far left on issues, supported the men’s club from the get go.
Jim
I’m not a member, but have attended meetings as a guest.
Essentially, they’re a group of men, looking for fellowship with other men of faith.
Their emphasis is on being better Christian men, husbands and fathers, which can only benefit everyone.
When they first started, some of the feminist grumbled, but the pastor who was usually far left on issues, supported the men’s club from the get go.
Jim
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tweedlealice
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Remember St. Joan of Arc. I for one woman am militant. I live by Ft. Bragg and have contacted 2 Chaplins at our memorial service and multiple soldiers at Womack and the memorial service and told them of Psalm 68.1–The Chaplet of His Holy Face. See below. Also,the Templers were maligned because they were rich. They had a great devotion to the Blessed Mother.Before battle their battle cry was “DEUS VAULT” God Willing. If for political reasons they can’t scream the chant, get their units scream it in their hearts. If, God forbid, we have boots on the ground. We must pray for Iraqis to have courage to fight. So far, they keep giving ISIS out weapons and trucks.
Pray for a president who will have the wisdom of Solomon to save our Catholics and give our troops the corroect rules of engagement to win.
ARAB prophecy:When all the Arab states are in turmoil (Arab Spring) the 12th prophet(the great Mahadi) will appear and the drive for the great Caliphate will begin.
COME LORD, JESUS, COME. LET YOUR ANGELS BE SEEN TO PROTECT YOUR CHURCH
Pray for a president who will have the wisdom of Solomon to save our Catholics and give our troops the corroect rules of engagement to win.
ARAB prophecy:When all the Arab states are in turmoil (Arab Spring) the 12th prophet(the great Mahadi) will appear and the drive for the great Caliphate will begin.
COME LORD, JESUS, COME. LET YOUR ANGELS BE SEEN TO PROTECT YOUR CHURCH
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bibcat
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All well and good. But it’s not just the male laity that needs to be militant. Read between the lines.
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outremer
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What is everyone’s thoughts on Cardinal Burke’s Holy League?
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ringil
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I fully support men’s conferences, men’s groups, etc. but I have an issue with this message that “real men look like this”- referring to the stereotypical hyper-macho man.
The Pope and many Church leaders would not be describes as especially macho but they are very much men.
The Pope and many Church leaders would not be describes as especially macho but they are very much men.
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JimR-OCDS
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Actually, seeing the use of the word “Militant,” in it, will produce negative perceptions as in the first paragraph above, and it’s not laughable, but the reality of not paying attention to the words we use and how they can easily be misunderstood.
It matters little that people misunderstand, for providing understanding is the job of the teachers, not the job of those they’re trying to reach.
The language of “militant,” is from the past, when military might was advocated.
I have concerns seeing the use of the word in defining Catholic Men’s Groups.
Jim
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SWolf
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Many men are attracted to the militaristic mindset. There’s nothing implicitly unChristian about it. Loyola started the Jesuits under such a mindset and was very successful. It’s more important to resonate with people in a clear way than worry about how people may misunderstand you.
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J_Peterson
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This is my thought as well. I for one enjoy the freedoms that we now have as men in modern society, we aren’t expected to “play the part” anymore. It’s so much easier when you can openly admit you like flowers, baking cupcakes, and listening to John Denver without feeling like an outcast.
That said, I have absolutely no problem with men’s groups or even groups that focus on a more macho masculinity. Different strokes and all that.
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Sarcelle
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Hopefully men’s groups could be in such numbers that there is sufficient diversity among them that all men can find a particular group that fits them.
Not all men are military types just like not all women are stay at mom types.
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JimR-OCDS
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Using terms that will be misunderstood isn’t resonating or communicating in a clear way, just the opposite.
St Ignatius of Loyola was a military man before his conversion and he brought the military mindset into his spirituality.
That worked in his day, it doesn’t work today.
Pope Francis is a Jesuit, and isn’t bringing a message of militarism into Christianity, but the message of peace and compassion.
Jim
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SWolf
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Why not? There are no military people today? Are men no longer receptive to the military mindset. Play with some young boys sometime, the primal nature of men has not changed, regardless of how hard modern society fights against it.
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JimR-OCDS
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You believe people are of a military mindset today ?
Also, we’re not talking to children, but to adults
Jim
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SWolf
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Read what I posted again.
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sps49
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All things being equal, you may have a point. But things are never equal, and history has a habit of repeating itself.
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Presence
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I’ve definitely felt like there was a lacking there for men of my mindset, hopefully I can find an organization someday of men who think similarly in the Church.
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the_phoenix
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Whatever the mindset is, the Catholic Church is made up of:
1.) The Church Triumphant … in Heaven
2.) The Church Suffering … in Purgatory
3.) The Church Militant … on Earth
Also, if you look at my title here on CAF, I’m a Prayer Warrior.
Me being called a warrior sounds kinda militant, right? But the people in charge of the CAF forums don’t seem to object.
In fact, CAF provides us with the following militant smiley face icons:
:knight2: … :knight1:
My favorite Saint happens to be St. Michael … a warrior angel. :angel1:
And finally, * drumroll please * …
SEMPER FI, the Marines motto is Latin for “always faithful” …
Okay, now I just couldn’t resist that last one …
~~ the phoenix
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JimR-OCDS
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Don’t explain to me.Whatever the mindset is, the Catholic Church is made up of:
1.) The Church Triumphant … in Heaven
2.) The Church Suffering … in Purgatory
3.) The Church Militant … on Earth
It’s not only men included in The Church Militant, btw.
Also, if you look at my title here on CAF, I’m a Prayer Warrior.
Me being called a warrior sounds kinda militant, right? But the people in charge of the CAF forums don’t seem to object.
My favorite Saint happens to be St. Michael … a warrior angel.
And finally, * drumroll please * …
SEMPER FI, the Marines motto is Latin for “always faithful” …
Okay, now I just couldn’t resist that last one …
~~ the phoenix
Present Chris to people as a source of peace and love, not a call to be a soldier marching off to war.
Jim
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