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Liberalsaved
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Actually, one would think doing something in defiance of your teachings is worse than doing something in accordance with them.
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Liberalsaved
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Is this implying women with children should stay at home?? Why can not the man do that?
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USA_Carlos
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a man cant be a mother of course!
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discipleofJesus
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You’re missing the point completely.
The point is Islam treats women badly. Muslims who follow Islam properly treat women badly. You cannot brush this aside by saying some Christians have treated women badly too, because these Christians are not following Christianity properly.
Conclusion: Islam treats women badly, Christianity does not.
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BaconBot
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So they shouldn’t have jobs? Where do you draw the line? Should women be allowed to vote? That’s a dangerous line you’re walking there.
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USA_Carlos
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a job? maybe not full-time. a woman can choose whether or not to be a good mother, i guess? maybe the line is dangerous, yes? but where do we draw it? i say being a good christian and serving her husband and raising good children is more important for a woman than proving a she is better than a man.
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Cyber_Knight
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dangerous? indeed!
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BaconBot
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Why can’t the husband stay home? I’m honestly confused by your logic.
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Cyber_Knight
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Because physically men have more responsibility if it is about $$$$$ in a family! its not about religion it’s about social stigmatism.
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Liberalsaved
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But you, also, are grouping these people,a s though all Muslims are the same. I think you simply need to take a step back and realize that evil and good are both everywhere.
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Liberalsaved
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What I am asking is, why can the man not stay at home with the children?
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BaconBot
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That is just simply not true. An dif you think it is, then you are kidding yourself. All the major religions have, and continue to treat women poorly over the years.
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USA_Carlos
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a man cant be a mother. this isnt if a woman is better than a man or anything like that.
plus the man will make more money than the woman and wont have to take time off for being pregnant. (although i hear sometimes this is allowed by some jobs now!)
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Cyber_Knight
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And Islam worst among others.
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Liberalsaved
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Oh, it’s allowed by some jobs? I think it is allowed by any decent employer, who would also allow women to work there.
This has nothing to do with gender roles. You can not see that a person is a person, regardless of gender. if you really want to fix something, fix that little problem of women getting paid less. it certainly isn’t their fault.
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Liberalsaved
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Cyber Knight:
Yet Christianity has yet to catch up with the Church of England. If anyone has a rightto preach, it’s them.
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USA_Carlos
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yes some jobs i think. i would agree that it is a nice thing. because sometimes a woman isnt feeling so good after giving birth. believe me i know! ha-ha!
i dont know what you mean. but maybe i not explain it right. a woman is better for raising kids than a man. i think this is a proven studied fact. i dont know why it is about proving a woman is the same or better than man. i think women should be treated nicely. it is sad that muslim countries are so bad about this. but we also need to keep good family values. people wonder why things are bad or why there is so much crime now than before. this is a good reason why.
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mystruggle
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The role of women in Catholicism alone should be downscaled. They aren’t safe in this Godblessed [or forsaken, I never can choose] world full of sinners and murderers and liars and people who can’t restrain their carnal urges. Just the other day, a lady was raped and strangled at my church–in the parking lot. There are maniacs in this world with us, and the only way to keep the weaker of the human species safe is to keep a watchful eye, and be ever vigilant.
Islam is doing some things right. My wife tells me to let our beautiful adopted daughter out, but I’m afraid for her safety. I put my wife in her rightful place, and we move on.
The people of the world need God before he is forced upon them. And on that day, I will be safe.
Islam is doing some things right. My wife tells me to let our beautiful adopted daughter out, but I’m afraid for her safety. I put my wife in her rightful place, and we move on.
The people of the world need God before he is forced upon them. And on that day, I will be safe.
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TheRaiders
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My Struggle,
You are an exfoliant (I looked on your profile)? What is that?
Puting women in their place has nothing to do with not respecting their opinion. That said, a child does not have the right to go out on the town, especialy women. They get taken advantage of, and they make mistakes that can affect the rest of their lives. They will get over the anger of not getting to go out. I read about a Mexican girl who had to bring her little brother along when she went on dates. She didn’t like it but she respected it.
They do have a place, and that is with children as Carlos said. Is this the kind of Christian oppression of women you are talking about Liberal and others? If so, then your analogy is complely bogus, and shouldn’t even be discussed further because your bias is blinding you.
This is not oppression it is how Carlos wants his family structured. You have no right to tell him that is opression. His marriage will likely work, because both he and his wife knew their roles going into it, and were happy with it. It is only* liberated * white america and Europe that have no clue what their roles are, and what marriage is even all about that are having all the problems. My mom job shares. That is, she holds a high position as an accountant, but splits the paychecks and the time 50-50. She and her work partner got to work, and raise their families properly. You never hear about this option. Why? Because the feminist movement has gone so far from the average woman in our country.
You see, there has to be a compromise somewhere or we are commiting social suicide.
My neighbor’s mom went the other route. She’s an ultra powerful executive for the government. She’s got respect, power, money. She’s got it all. But her marriage went down the drains. Her kids has no spiritual side, and are pretty selfish.
Men have a place with children too, but to everything there is a time. A man’s time with his children is after a long-day’s work.
If a woman does not want to have more than a few children, then it is the man’s responsibility to respect that, and have sex accordingly. Natural family planning does work. So does abstinence.
If she doesn’t want to be pregnant, they need to try and adopt (adoption isn’t always a sure thing, they sometimes refuse parents).
You are an exfoliant (I looked on your profile)? What is that?
Puting women in their place has nothing to do with not respecting their opinion. That said, a child does not have the right to go out on the town, especialy women. They get taken advantage of, and they make mistakes that can affect the rest of their lives. They will get over the anger of not getting to go out. I read about a Mexican girl who had to bring her little brother along when she went on dates. She didn’t like it but she respected it.
They do have a place, and that is with children as Carlos said. Is this the kind of Christian oppression of women you are talking about Liberal and others? If so, then your analogy is complely bogus, and shouldn’t even be discussed further because your bias is blinding you.
This is not oppression it is how Carlos wants his family structured. You have no right to tell him that is opression. His marriage will likely work, because both he and his wife knew their roles going into it, and were happy with it. It is only* liberated * white america and Europe that have no clue what their roles are, and what marriage is even all about that are having all the problems. My mom job shares. That is, she holds a high position as an accountant, but splits the paychecks and the time 50-50. She and her work partner got to work, and raise their families properly. You never hear about this option. Why? Because the feminist movement has gone so far from the average woman in our country.
You see, there has to be a compromise somewhere or we are commiting social suicide.
My neighbor’s mom went the other route. She’s an ultra powerful executive for the government. She’s got respect, power, money. She’s got it all. But her marriage went down the drains. Her kids has no spiritual side, and are pretty selfish.
Men have a place with children too, but to everything there is a time. A man’s time with his children is after a long-day’s work.
If a woman does not want to have more than a few children, then it is the man’s responsibility to respect that, and have sex accordingly. Natural family planning does work. So does abstinence.
If she doesn’t want to be pregnant, they need to try and adopt (adoption isn’t always a sure thing, they sometimes refuse parents).
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Cyber_Knight
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OMG…Would you stop tu quoque?? Do you know what it means???
No doubt Catholic committed crimes (women issue) in the name of religion in the past. But I believe Christianity nowdays do not. People that treat women so low in the name of religion until now are Muslims and they do accordingly as per Quran and Hadith.
Please open another thread if you want to talk about how bad Christianity (Catholic) treat women. I’m sure catholics here will be pleased to discuss with you.
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