"the silliest Mass of all time"

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This is the perfect forum because it is us Trads who will cry the most, respond the most, and feel justified in our years of complaining about the NO.

Anyways, this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo šŸ˜¦ I almost want to :crying: I mean if I was there with my family, I think we would leave, or charge up and break up the dancing, or maybe we would just yell at the priest afterwards. :mad: (At least there was no Blessed Sacrament. No one who does that could consecrate a host.) We would probably leave, go eat breakfast and come back right after the service and :mad: šŸ˜¦ yell at the priest, then go and find a true Catholic mass.:mad:
 
Margarite said:
This is the perfect forum because it is us Trads who will cry the most, respond the most, and feel justified in our years of complaining about the NO.
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Well, if you think this weird abboration justifies complaining, okay. Just realize that Sister Wannabe Priest is equally justified using this guy to justify conplaining about traditionalists.

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Sauce for the goose.

Perhaps in both cases honest would be the best policy.

One more thought: I disagree that traditionalists are the ones to ā€œcryā€ the most. This stuff is always slammed on in the liturgy and sacraments forum by all equally, just like sedevacantist and conclavist find a poor welcome among traditionalists here. The only thing traditionalist are more likely to do is generalize.
 
Brennan_Doherty said:
The pictures depict the unreality of it all. A liturgy conducted as if the sight of young females dancing in front of the altar wonā€™t be a distraction to men. A denial of the basic differences between men and women, or treating them as if they are nonexistent.
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These pictures are pitiful. I canā€™t help but wonder if anyone attending it actually looked at the host during the elevation. What are the idiots thinking???
 
pnewton said:
Well, if you think this weird abboration justifies complaining, okay. Just realize that Sister Wannabe Priest is equally justified using this guy to justify conplaining about traditionalists.

popemichael.homestead.com/index.html

Sauce for the goose.

Perhaps in both cases honest would be the best policy.

One more thought: I disagree that traditionalists are the ones to ā€œcryā€ the most. This stuff is always slammed on in the liturgy and sacraments forum by all equally, just like sedevacantist and conclavist find a poor welcome among traditionalists here. The only thing traditionalist are more likely to do is generalize.
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I donā€™t see how. This guy is clearly a sedevacantist and probably nuts as well. He makes no claim at being part of the Church as it is now. On the other hand, those that put on and attend these abhorrent Masses that spring up from time to time all claim to be following the reforms of Vatican II and pledge loyalty and fealty to the Holy Father.

2Peter 2 says it eloquently

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought themā€”bringing swift destruction on themselves.

The danger isnā€™t really with those who separate themselves from the Church as this clown and others like Father Pulvermacher have done. No one except for a very few even know about these characters and even fewer still care whatthey say or do.

No, the danger is in those who infiltrate into the Church under the guise of orthodoxy and solid teaching. Heretics donā€™t ome in with a big H on their chest so we know who they are. No, they come in quietly, respectfully and sit right down with you. The ones who say they only want what is best for the Church. Once they are accepted then and only then do they start to plant their seeds and their heresies. Then they wait and wait for the walls to grow weak and come crumbling down. The very ones who introduce the rot and corruption that has grown so strong in the past hundred years. The ones who ridicule those who show excessive reverence, the ones who exalt the dignity of man over the dignity of God, the very ones that cry legalism at the slightest excuse and shun anything traditional as being misplaced and out of touch with the modern world.

They are the ones we need to watch out for. They are the ones that need to be exposed for what they truly are and what their agendas really areā€¦
 
palmas85 said:
I donā€™t see how. This guy is clearly a sedevacantist and probably nuts as well. He makes no claim at being part of the Church as it is now. On the other hand, those that put on and attend these abhorrent Masses that spring up from time to time all claim to be following the reforms of Vatican II and pledge loyalty and fealty to the Holy Father.

2Peter 2 says it eloquently

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought themā€”bringing swift destruction on themselves.

The danger isnā€™t really with those who separate themselves from the Church as this clown and others like Father Pulvermacher have done. No one except for a very few even know about these characters and even fewer still care whatthey say or do.

No, the danger is in those who infiltrate into the Church under the guise of orthodoxy and solid teaching. Heretics donā€™t ome in with a big H on their chest so we know who they are. No, they come in quietly, respectfully and sit right down with you. The ones who say they only want what is best for the Church. Once they are accepted then and only then do they start to plant their seeds and their heresies. Then they wait and wait for the walls to grow weak and come crumbling down. The very ones who introduce the rot and corruption that has grown so strong in the past hundred years. The ones who ridicule those who show excessive reverence, the ones who exalt the dignity of man over the dignity of God, the very ones that cry legalism at the slightest excuse and shun anything traditional as being misplaced and out of touch with the modern world.

They are the ones we need to watch out for. They are the ones that need to be exposed for what they truly are and what their agendas really areā€¦
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The Neocatechumenal Way
 
palmas85 said:
I donā€™t see how. This guy is clearly a sedevacantist and probably nuts as well. He makes no claim at being part of the Church as it is now. ā€¦
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An no one here or in the Church has claimed that clown masses are okay. He still styles himself as a traditionalist. There is much commonality in sedevacantist and conclavist in that which they reject from Vatican II and post Vatican II. You think it is an unfair representation. I think using this Mass is an unfair representation. That is the common thread.
 
Leopard said:
Interesting. Well, that differs from the forum description at the top of this page, at the top of every other page in the Traditional Catholicism forum, and in the Forum list itself. So I suppose until the forum administrators change one of these, discussions conforming to either description are within the rules.
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Itā€™s free to continue anyway. But I canā€™t see what you are talking about. I guess I may have a different skin, but I donā€™t see any description. :confused:
 
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