The sin that cannot be forgiven

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Why bring that up here, CristianB?
I could ask you: “Is the Pope God?” Without doubt you’d say: “Of course not!”. Am I wrong? No.

But even so, the Catholic Church changed the Ten Commandments. Now let us think logically: if I, for example, dare to change something you said (that means change a quote), it could mean the following things:


  1. *]That I am the one who said those things; the author.
    *]That I have the same power or authority as the author.
    *]I have greater power of authority than the author.

    If the Ten Commandments are a quote of what God said (yes, God said those things in quite a loud voice I’d say), I was originally wondering what gives the Church authority to change God’s eternal law. Here is some proof that God’s laws (The Ten Commandments) are eternal:
    All your words are true;
    all your righteous laws are eternal.
    -Psalms 119:160
    It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
    -Luke 16:17
    There are many more, but I don’t want to become a troll. I am not here accusing, but demanding an explanation.

    So, if God’s Commandments are eternal, why did the (Catholic) Church change them?
 
Just wondering… why did the Church (Catholic Church, to be more accurate) change the Ten Commandments?
Because of the confusion when someone is trying to diferentiate betrween worshippin a statue and giving veneration to the statue because of what it represents.
 
And anyway, the Catholic church did not “change” the ten commandments. A cursory examination will reveal the differences between the Jewish, Anglican, Orthodox and Catholic enumeration of the commandments. The text has not been changed at all. Not one bit. This should give a clue as to the validity of looking at them, and enumerating them, in different ways.
For example, the Jewish first commandment is not really a commandment at all, but rather a statement on the supremacy of God.
The Catholic Church, in its wisdom, has decided to list “nieghbour’s wife” and “neighbour’s goods” separately.

All of this is quite a diversion from the thread, but I thought I’d bite. Sorry, thread-starter.
 
Sorry I must say something about this slavery. In the begining there was to be slaves, that is true, the animals of the earth were made to serve us. God allowed slavery (Not to be confused with what man turned slavery into).

Slavery then was for people with no homes, jobs who could not support themselfs. it was natural as humans rights would not come along for another 10.000 years. it was Gods way of trying to aid the homeless and the rich at the same time.

But man turned evil, and turned Gods act of mercy into his own right to treat people as nothing more than property. so again we broke gods heart. I hear you say that to deny parts of the bible is bad, that all of it is Gods own words.

There is alot of the bible I do not beleave. Alot of it I know to have been twisted. and crying out how slavery should be allowed because God created it is exactly how men twist whats in the bible to get there own hearts desires.

“STONE THAT WOMAN TO DEATH” the croud yell “The LAW COMMANDS IT”
You are doing the things your own father does." “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself."Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

as it was said

the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.

The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.

You see we make things bad, God made them Good. we corrupted them into evil. and accuse God of the rules man made other other man. God is love, love is god.
 
to thankfull

When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.<< Ezekiel 33:18 >>

Those who despaired of finding mercy with God, are answered with a solemn declaration of God’s readiness to show mercy. The ruin of the city and state was determined, but that did not relate to the final state of persons. God says to the righteous, that he shall surely live. But many who have made profession, have been ruined by proud confidence in themselves. Man trusts to his own righteousness, and presuming on his own sufficiency, he is brought to commit iniquity. If those who have lived a wicked life repent and forsake their wicked ways, they shall be saved. Many such amazing and blessed changes have been wrought by the power of Divine grace. When there is a settled separation between a man and sin, there shall no longer be a separation between him and God.

Keep in mind, that If a sinless man sins, its so hard for them to turn back to god, because of his own self created ideas, like the idea that to sin knowing who God is, is unforgivable, all you do infact is condem yourself.​

EVAN. Then, said Evangelist, stand still a little, that I may show thee the words of God. So he stood trembling. Then said Evangelist, “See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven.” [Heb. 12:25] He said, moreover, “Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.” [Heb. 10:38] He also did thus apply them: Thou art the man that art running into this misery; thou hast begun to reject the counsel of the Most High, and to draw back thy foot from the way of peace, even almost to the hazarding of thy perdition.

Then Christian fell down at his feet as dead, crying, “Woe is me, for I am undone!” At the sight of which Evangelist caught him by the right hand, saying, “All manner of sin and blasphemies shall be forgiven unto men.” [Matt. 12:31, (Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.) Mark 3:28 (Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:)] “Be not faithless, but believing.” [John 20:27] Then did Christian again a little revive, and stood up trembling, as at first, before Evangelist.

Then Evangelist proceeded, saying, Give more earnest heed to the things that I shall tell thee of. I will now show thee who it was that deluded thee, and who it was also to whom he sent thee. – The man that met thee is one Worldly Wiseman, and rightly is he so called; partly, because he savoureth only the doctrine of this world, [1 John 4:5 (They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.)] (therefore he always goes to the town of Morality to church): and partly because he loveth that doctrine best, for it saveth him best from the cross. [Gal 6:12 (As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.)] And because he is of this carnal temper, therefore he seeketh to pervert my ways, though right. Now there are three things in this man’s counsel, that thou must utterly abhor.
  1. His turning thee out of the way. 2. His labouring to render the cross odious to thee. And, 3. His setting thy feet in that way that leadeth unto the administration of death.
First, Thou must abhor his turning thee out of the way; and thine own consenting thereunto: because this is to reject the counsel of God for the sake of the counsel of a Worldly Wiseman. The Lord says, “Strive to enter in at the strait gate” [Luke 13:24], the gate to which I sent thee; for “strait is the gate that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” [Matt. 7:14] From this little wicket-gate, and from the way thereto, hath this wicked man turned thee, to the bringing of thee almost to destruction; hate, therefore, his turning thee out of the way, and abhor thyself for hearkening to him.
 
Secondly, Thou must abhor his labouring to render the cross odious unto thee; for thou art to prefer it “before the treasures in Egypt.” [Heb. 11:25,26] Besides the King of glory hath told thee, that he that “will save his life shall lose it.” [Mark 8:35; John 12:25; Matt. 10:39] And, “He that cometh after me, and hateth not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” [Luke 14:26] I say, therefore, for man to labour to persuade thee, that that shall be thy death, without which, THE TRUTH hath said, thou canst not have eternal life; this doctrine thou must abhor.

Thirdly, Thou must hate his setting of thy feet in the way that leadeth to the ministration of death. And for this thou must consider to whom he sent thee, and also how unable that person was to deliver thee from thy burden.

He to whom thou wast sent for ease, being by name Legality, is the son of the bond-woman which now is, and is in bondage with her children [Gal 4:21-27]; and is, in a mystery, this Mount Sinai, which thou hast feared will fall on thy head. Now, if she, with her children, are in bondage, how canst thou expect by them to be made free? This Legality, therefore, is not able to set thee free from thy burden. No man was as yet ever rid of his burden by him; no, nor ever is like to be: ye cannot be justified by the works of the law; for by the deeds of the law no man living can be rid of his burden: therefore, Mr. Worldly Wiseman is an alien, and Mr. Legality is a cheat; and for his son Civility, notwithstanding his simpering looks, he is but a hypocrite and cannot help thee. Believe me, there is nothing in all this noise, that thou hast heard of these sottish men, but a design to beguile thee of thy salvation, by turning thee from the way in which I had set thee. After this, Evangelist called aloud to the heavens for confirmation of what he had said: and with that there came words and fire out of the mountain under which poor Christian stood, that made the hair of his flesh stand up. The words were thus pronounced: `As many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.’ [Gal. 3:10]

Now Christian looked for nothing but death, and began to cry out lamentably; even cursing the time in which he met with Mr. Worldly Wiseman; still calling himself a thousand fools for hearkening to his counsel; he also was greatly ashamed to think that this gentleman’s arguments, flowing only from the flesh, should have the prevalency with him as to cause him to forsake the right way. This done, he applied himself again to Evangelist in words and sense as follow:

CHR. Sir, what think you? Is there hope? May I now go back and go up to the wicket-gate? Shall I not be abandoned for this, and sent back from thence ashamed? I am sorry I have hearkened to this man’s counsel. But may my sin be forgiven?

EVAN. Then said Evangelist to him, Thy sin is very great, for by it thou hast committed two evils: thou hast forsaken the way that is good, to tread in forbidden paths; yet will the man at the gate receive thee, for he has goodwill for men; only, said he, take heed that thou turn not aside again, lest thou perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little.' [Ps. 2:12] Then did Christian address himself to go back; and Evangelist, after he had kissed him, gave him one smile, and bid him God-speed. So he went on with haste, neither spake he to any man by the way; nor, if any asked him, would he vouchsafe them an answer. He went like one that was all the while treading on forbidden ground, and could by no means think himself safe, till again he was got into the way which he left, to follow Mr. Worldly Wiseman's counsel. So, in process of time, Christian got up to the gate. Now, over the gate there was written, Knock, and it shall be opened unto you.’ [Matt 7:8]​

We all fall at times. I just want to remind you that if you ever fall, do not run from god in shame, he dose forgive all sins, he will be there waiting to hold you. he is your father.
 
A baby Christian is a person who has accepted Jesus as their savior, but has not grown spiritually. This is evidenced by the fruit he or she bares. A spiritually mature Christian will not sin.
Since this is a false statement, and since even great saints sinned, and since the Catholic Church is a hospital for sinners, do you therefore offer any proof that your own private revelations come from God, and not Satan, your own pride, or even your own good intentions and misunderstandings?
 
Since this is a false statement, and since even great saints sinned, and since the Catholic Church is a hospital for sinners, do you therefore offer any proof that your own private revelations come from God, and not Satan, your own pride, or even your own good intentions and misunderstandings?
Yes I have proof that Christian are called to live a sinless life, and the proof is the Written Word of God. Read the following verses, and ask Jesus to open your heart to understand.

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people? “
(1 John 3: 3 - 9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to break the law. Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray; to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy; to lead a sinful life is to belong to the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

(Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.”

Galatians 5:16“Let me put it like this if you are guided by the Spirit you will be in no danger of yielding to self-indulgence…”.
 
Anyone can pull Scripture out of context and point to it to say: “Look! My private revelations come from God!”

Alas, this is the danger found in Sola Scriptura: each man his own little church.
 
Anyone can pull Scripture out of context and point to it to say: “Look! My private revelations come from God!”

Alas, this is the danger found in Sola Scriptura: each man his own little church.
**Yes that is what most everyone says when a scripture is presented to them in which they don’t understand or believe. You know though there is a Catholic saint who didn’t believe the scriptures I quoted were out of context. By the way he is a little bit harder to read than the Bible. **

The following is a letter by Saint. Maximus the Confessor and it explains in a very unique way what I have been saying, that people who know God do not sin.

The manner of birth from God within us is two-fold: the one bestows the grace of adoption, which is entirely present in potency in those who are born of God; the other introduces, wholly by active exertion, that grace which deliberately reorients the entire free choice of the one being born of God toward the God who gives birth. The first bears the grace, present in potency through faith alone; but the second, beyond, also engenders in the knower the sublimely divine likeness of the One known, that likeness being effected precisely through knowledge. Therefore the first manner of birth is observed in some because their will, not yet fully detached from its propensity to the flesh, has yet to be wholly endowed with the Spirit by participation in the divine mysteries that are made known through active endeavor. The inclination to sin does not disappear as long as they will it. For the Spirit does not give birth to an unwilling will, but converts the willing will toward deification. (So a person doesn’t stop sinning just because they will not to sin.) Whoever has participated in this deification through cognizance experience is incapable of reverting from right discernment in truth, once he has achieved this in action, to something else besides, which only pretends to be that same discernment. (Once a person comes to know God, through the Holy Spirit, they are incapable of reverting to their sinful ways.) It is like the eye, which, once it has looked upon the sun, cannot mistake it for the moon or any of the other stars in the heavens. With those undergoing the (second mode of) birth, the Holy Spirit takes the whole of their free choice and translates it completely from earth to heaven, and, through the true knowledge acquired by exertion, transfigures the mind with the blessed light rays of our God and Father, such that the mind is deemed another “God,” insofar as in its habitude if experiences, by grace, that which God himself does not experience but “is” in his very essence. With those undergoing this second mode of baptism, their free choice clearly becomes sinless in virtue and knowledge, as they are unable to negate what they have actively discerned through experience. So even if we have the Spirit of adoption, who is himself the Seed for enduring those begotten (through baptism) with the likeness of the Sower, but do not present him with a will cleansed of any inclination or disposition to something else, we therefore, even after being born of water and Spirit (Jn 3:5), willingly sin. But were we to prepare our will with knowledge to receive the operation of these agents-water and Spirit, I mean-then the mystical water would, through our practical life, cleanse our conscience, and the life-giving Spirit would bring about unchanging perfection of the good in us through knowledge acquired in experience. Precisely for that reason he leaves, to each of us who are still able to sin, the sheer desire to surrender our whole selves willing to the Spirit.

St. Maximus the Confessor
 
Anyone can pull Scripture out of context and point to it to say: “Look! My private revelations come from God!”

Alas, this is the danger found in Sola Scriptura: each man his own little church.
There is not one good only interpretation. The Holy Spirit gives us wisdom to interpret it depending on our situation, problems, etc. One passage for some people might give hope while for others words of wisdom. There is not one single interpretation but many, and all of them good as long as they do not contradict with the Bible.

So you are wrong. The passages are given for many situations. There is not only one big interpretation that everyone must follow. Not everyone has the same life, thus not the same problems; since they’re different problems they require different solutions. The interpretation is good as long as it is in harmony with Jesus’ teachings.

So yes, God can reveal you somethings trough a passage as a solution to your problem and give another message to another, as a solution to his problem. As long as it does not contradict itself.
 
ChristianB makes a valid point about scripture having different messages for different people, depending on their circumstances. This does not have to be a “sola scriptura” issue (which is bound to lead to arguments, in any case, especially on sites such as this). It is not too far removed from the notion of praying for one’s personal needs, an act which can be quite unscriptural.
 
Messages Of Grace
June 27 at 8:20am
Today’s Message from Jesus to you.

My child, Know that everything in creation has been made in the Light of my Love for you. Evils biggest weapon against you is that of accusation, To believe someone you know or love is doing something to hurt you, when you have no proof.

This is the opposite of Faith, and evil will try and say “You have no proof there not doing it” My Child, you do not have my job. if you suspect anyone of anything, no matter how justified, or intuitive, evil is tainting your mind.

Know my child, I see everything, And I protect you from that which is harmful to you and those you love, In me you have the protection you need, you may not see what I save you from, But just know you are wonderfully protected.

Todays Message Of Grace
June 28 at 9:28am
Jesus says.

Have you failed to see my open arms in the cold and lonely places? I am that small voice that tells you this moment, feeling, pain will pass. Yet I have been misunderstood by man.

My child, I do not tell you to suffer, nor do I threaten you with hell. I never point to the path of destruction, but to the path that heals. Your faith must be like that of a child, your want must be to live close to me.

When you have found peace in my love for you, evil will attack you with my own words, telling you that you have it wrong, yet why did that peace come, then go when you listened to what is called proof and logic.

I give you that peace when you see I am the light of love itself, you cannot be good and earn my love, my love is given freely, and sometimes that love inspires my children to do good works.

As no child can earn my love by his/her own works, then you must understand the power of my love for you. If I was Just and fair, you would not deserve my love. But I am Mercy Grace and Love, you never had to earn it, and pushing Ideas of Myself as an angry punishing Guardian is not me or of me.

In doing good you will be rewarded by the spirit, but never lose heart in me, I am with you always, you have in me the perfect love for you.
July 23 at 3:34pm
Jesus says.

My Children. I must talk with you, open your heart and listen to me for a moment.

There is healthy and unhealthy battles, Man protesting so a forest wont be destroyed, as long as he refrains from violence and wanting a school education as long as there is no anger or violence, but I am invited.

My children, many of you are angry, races that have history with others and both holding anger, which I only wish you could all stop and love one another as I love you. Love ends hate.

My child I am against nobody, If you are trying to stop gay marriage or abortions or drink age laws, none of this is of me, its evils tools to turn you against one another.

I love the gays as I love you and love those who have had abortions and I love alcoholics. if my name is in your religion but is telling you to turn on one another then turn to me and listen. I said LOVE thy neighbor as thyself.

Can you say that its wrong to care for the sinners? Did I not do this for you? do you feel horror in spirit at the thought of showing love to a sinner? I hate abortions, But those who did them are my children, not yours. Love the sinner as I loved you when you were sinners, be the example of my love, and this will save them. have you so little faith?

Protecting tradition is not good if it causes others pain, you cannot single anyone out, my love can reach everyone, do not be ruled by fear and anger, I said blessed are they who heal the sick and visit the imprisoned, and in the past the sick were cast out and now its them in prison.

Do you want to help another, donate a bible to a prison, let me do the rest. I am not against anyone, I love you my children, and love is not against anyone. so If you are, come back to me.
 
Messages Of Grace
June 27 at 8:20am
Today’s Message from Jesus to you.

My child, Know that everything in creation has been made in the Light of my Love for you. Evils biggest weapon against you is that of accusation, To believe someone you know or love is doing something to hurt you, when you have no proof.

This is the opposite of Faith, and evil will try and say “You have no proof there not doing it” My Child, you do not have my job. if you suspect anyone of anything, no matter how justified, or intuitive, evil is tainting your mind.

Know my child, I see everything, And I protect you from that which is harmful to you and those you love, In me you have the protection you need, you may not see what I save you from, But just know you are wonderfully protected.

Todays Message Of Grace
June 28 at 9:28am
Jesus says.

Have you failed to see my open arms in the cold and lonely places? I am that small voice that tells you this moment, feeling, pain will pass. Yet I have been misunderstood by man.

My child, I do not tell you to suffer, nor do I threaten you with hell. I never point to the path of destruction, but to the path that heals. Your faith must be like that of a child, your want must be to live close to me.

When you have found peace in my love for you, evil will attack you with my own words, telling you that you have it wrong, yet why did that peace come, then go when you listened to what is called proof and logic.

I give you that peace when you see I am the light of love itself, you cannot be good and earn my love, my love is given freely, and sometimes that love inspires my children to do good works.

As no child can earn my love by his/her own works, then you must understand the power of my love for you. If I was Just and fair, you would not deserve my love. But I am Mercy Grace and Love, you never had to earn it, and pushing Ideas of Myself as an angry punishing Guardian is not me or of me.

In doing good you will be rewarded by the spirit, but never lose heart in me, I am with you always, you have in me the perfect love for you.
July 23 at 3:34pm
Jesus says.

My Children. I must talk with you, open your heart and listen to me for a moment.

There is healthy and unhealthy battles, Man protesting so a forest wont be destroyed, as long as he refrains from violence and wanting a school education as long as there is no anger or violence, but I am invited.

My children, many of you are angry, races that have history with others and both holding anger, which I only wish you could all stop and love one another as I love you. Love ends hate.

My child I am against nobody, If you are trying to stop gay marriage or abortions or drink age laws, none of this is of me, its evils tools to turn you against one another.

I love the gays as I love you and love those who have had abortions and I love alcoholics. if my name is in your religion but is telling you to turn on one another then turn to me and listen. I said LOVE thy neighbor as thyself.

Can you say that its wrong to care for the sinners? Did I not do this for you? do you feel horror in spirit at the thought of showing love to a sinner? I hate abortions, But those who did them are my children, not yours. Love the sinner as I loved you when you were sinners, be the example of my love, and this will save them. have you so little faith?

Protecting tradition is not good if it causes others pain, you cannot single anyone out, my love can reach everyone, do not be ruled by fear and anger, I said blessed are they who heal the sick and visit the imprisoned, and in the past the sick were cast out and now its them in prison.

Do you want to help another, donate a bible to a prison, let me do the rest. I am not against anyone, I love you my children, and love is not against anyone. so If you are, come back to me.
(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
 
(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
You know sometimes I talk to you myself, sometimes Jesus talks through me, and sometimes I pass things on I have read.

Where is god? Can he be found at church? can he be found in the bible? can he be found on the cross? can he be found on the TV? Can he be found in the words of religious, Can be be found in an old man?

There was a few others who had a mind like this, they were called the appostles, and they tryed to find god in a tomb, but he was missing. sure he SAID he would return in three days, and these men HAD seen all his workings. But where is he?

well, lets just say nobody can be taught about Jesus, after all even his appostles appeared to have learned nothing untill they had seen him with there own eyes.

So can I find God…well people can teach me about him yes, they can make me walk away because of there words or want to know more, but thats just information.

If we look deeper, dose it not look like Jesus is calling us to look for him. lets use a three word rule called Ask, seek, knock. There is a giant cold universe out there, lets keep in mind that ask is the first rule.

Why is ask so important? well you must look at this universe, this world and ask the same question asked by all, if there is a god, why is he letting this go on.

Do you know that while I am telling you this, in poor country’s of the world there are Missonarys who are casting out demons, healing the sick and even brining the dead back to life?

You ask why you did not know this? well if you want to know ask, Tv is so coruppted by evil, it hides all miricals and posts horrific news over the top of it. And why is this happening in these poor countrys, why not in the uk the usa where God is so badly needed?

Well Jesus said, "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
"Then he sent some more servants (saints) and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’ "But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them.
"Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.

And his other words “The first shall be last and the last shall be first”

God has freely given his gifts to people who want it, ask for it, seek it and keep knocking. When God performs a miracle in the UK or USA, the people deny him or make faiths on Higher plains where the Angels rule and watch over them.

Jesus said “If they speak not of my name, they are not of my father” evil cannot speak Jesus name in healing, because Jesus heals, alone he heals, he IS the healer.

Now to see what god says about future reading and the rest, something this generation and myself have been comfeterble around.

Dear friends, stop believing every spirit. Instead, test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.<< 1 John 4:1 >>

So Its as if Jesus is telling us, that False gods will be around us, and they are, and we are fine with it, as if its as normal as snow.

Jeremiah 14:14 Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

So god alone calls us to see only which he wants us to see. and you can see the hurt it causes God.

Jeremiah 29:8 "For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, 'Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream.

Now its a warning, A warning that feels like God is trying to tell is now, in this day and age.

2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

So if we depend so much on horriscopes and fear the end of the world just because a calander stops counting, the lord said.

be not unsettled in mind or troubled–either by any pretended spiritual revelation or by any message or letter claiming to have been sent by us–through fancying that the day of the Lord is now here.<< 2 Thessalonians 2:2 >>

Now I am not saying God is not wish us, no he never ever leaves us, but that he is giving to those who ask seek and knock, who want and who trust.
 
And remember Jesus is the healer, not the man who can heal. these words of jesus could help us all realise our shortcomings.
I begged your disciples to drive it out, but they could not." Jesus answered, "You unbelieving and corrupt generation! How long must I be with you and put up with you? << Luke 9:41 >>

Jesus appears cold because he loves us more than we can ever understand, he can help the sinners, but because of free will, helping the unbelievers is a challange.

So if by asking we can still upset Jesus perhaps we need to look at the otherthing he said, about the second rule.

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. << Matthew 6:33 >>

Thnk about that, what is Jesus telling you, he is telling you that no mater what, no mater how hard, no mater how many things are in your way, no mater how many people are against you, no mater WHAT!!! Keep your eye on gods kingdom.

Remember we are human, sinners, unworthy of saying Gods name, we are not doing him any favours by meriting heaven, he is the one doing us the favours. He did not need to give up his time or his son, how can we ever clame to be doing god a favour, once we and that includes myself fully understand that God owes us nothing, then we shall be humble.

Avaragely I find myself a lieing stealing blasphemist angry lustful judging greedy idle jealous man, thats nine sins, some deadly, and thats not including what the sins are.
Any gifts god gives me wont be because I have earned it, he is doing me the favours, I am trying not to take them for granted as so many do now.

So I had to want to find god, I wanted a relationship with him, because I knew I was a sinner, I had to understand why he loved me. I asked him to remove my want of worldly things and give me the want for eternal things. I asked for child-like faith and trust, I asked to live close to him and him to make himself known to me, I called him the father who can never fail me.

Before all this, I knew god, but I never knew him, I was ignorant to him, Gods name is so hated now, and his love and mercy are stronger than even at the time of his son, jesus mercy is a prayer, so can now pray for people who have died to enter heaven because his mercy is so strong.

We are all non belevers looking for jesus in the tomb, but only have faith when he shows up infront of us. evil only looks like its winning, but its allready been defeated.

we must turn from all these future reading, evil music, and seek the kingdom and his rightiousess, and all things will be given by his favor. his mother, his saints, his son, his love, all things.

beleave it or not, Gods your dad
 
What is meant by blaspheming against the Holy Spirit?
Why can’t that be forgiven, even with Christ’s having died to forgive all sin?
I have not followed the thread through so forgive if I am hitting something already discussed.

I have come to the conclusion that the only unforgivable sin, “blaspheming the Holy Spirit”, is the outright rejection of God and His will in our Lives.

Think about this for a minute.
If we turn to God, ANYTHING we have done in our past can be forgiven.
Why??
Because our past is unimportant to God when we turn with a penitant heart and ask for forgiveness.

Now there ar two ways in which we can “blaspheme the Holy Spirit”.
First is by denying God and God’s existance. Such denial is simply refusing God’s salvation.
The Second way is what Jesus is refering to in the Gospel. To Profess a belief in God and then to deny God Will, Action, Signs, etc in your life and to teach others to do so.
In this case it is like those who claim to believe in Jesus but then continue to live in sin. Their belief, their faith, is a Lie.
This has the same effect as an outright denial of God. It is a refusal of God’s salvation.
Those in the Gospels who said that Jesus works were of the devil, did, by their accusation, accuse God of being the devil, and thus showed that they themselves were not of God.

Peace
James
 
**Yes that is what most everyone says when a scripture is presented to them in which they don’t understand or believe. You know though there is a Catholic saint who didn’t believe the scriptures I quoted were out of context. By the way he is a little bit harder to read than the Bible. **
So you don’t even believe in the Sacrament of Reconciliation?

Seems to me you are simply in knee-jerk rebellion against Holy Mother Church and you want to spread the ‘joy.’
 
Though you already know the answer to your question (I’m talking to the original poster), I just feel like giving you an example of real life, so you’ll understand it better; a parable, if you wish to call it that way.

A man was driving his car and suddenly a police car stopped him. Then he realized that he broke the speed limit. While the officer was writing his ticket, the man begged him to forgive him. The officer said: “All right, I’ll forgive you but try not to brake the law next time, OK?” Then, the officer let the man go. After a while, he broke the speed limit again. The same officer (coincidence) stopped him and said: “Well well well… What do we have here?” And the man asked for his forgiveness again. This happened several times. The eleventh time (it’s an arbitrary number) the policeman said: “I’ll forgi…” then the man interrupted him and said: "Go fuk yourself!". What do you think happened then? The officer threw him in jail*

The man is you. Breaking the speed limit is breaking the Law of God. the officer is the Holy Ghost. This is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: rejecting His help.
 
So you don’t even believe in the Sacrament of Reconciliation?

Seems to me you are simply in knee-jerk rebellion against Holy Mother Church and you want to spread the ‘joy.’
Reconciliation should be needed once in a person’s life time.
 
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