The sufficiency of Christ

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PRmerger said:
Yes, of course. But, unfortunately, as they have no apostolic succession nor a valid priesthood, they are indeed only having intimacy with a wafer. Not very intimate, I imagine!
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I think you still have to wrestle with the Orthodox churches with your view.
 
PRmerger said:
What do you mean by “more biblical”? Do you mean they have more bible verses read in their services? If that’s what you mean, then you have not been to a Catholic liturgy. Adam.

Well, whenever izoid became part of the bride of Christ, he was not able to consummate his relationship with Christ until he received the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (that is, at the Easter Liturgy most likely!)
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Where we seem to disagree is about the actual members or components who makeup the bride of Christ. I believe the bride of Christ is catholic, where he appears to believe the bride of Christ to be Catholic. My positon comes from Sacred Scripture. Izoid’s positon comes from Sacred Tradition. 🤷
 
PRmerger said:
Well, whenever izoid became part of the bride of Christ, he was not able to consummate his relationship with Christ until he received the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (that is, at the Easter Liturgy most likely!)
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Amen brother. What a glorious consummation that was! :extrahappy::extrahappy::extrahappy:
 
2nd_Adam said:
Where we seem to disagree is about the actual members or components who makeup the bride of Christ. I believe the bride of Christ is catholic, where he appears to believe the bride of Christ to be Catholic. My positon comes from Sacred Scripture. Izoid’s positon comes from Sacred Tradition. 🤷
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Christ established ONE true church and that church is His bride. He did not marry thousands of different churches, He married the ONE true Church.
 
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Well, whenever izoid became part of the bride of Christ, he was not able to consummate his relationship with Christ until he received the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (that is, at the Easter Liturgy most likely!)
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izoid said:
Amen brother. What a glorious consummation that was! :extrahappy::extrahappy::extrahappy:
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Sacred Tradition view only… 😃
 
izoid said:
I wasn’t aware that John chapter 6 was tradition. I thought it was Scripture, my bad. 😉
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How in the heck to you get your view that you were not part of the bride of Christ as a Protestant who knew God and united to Christ until you went through the RCIA classes and became an official member of the Catholic Church with John chapter 6? 🤷
 
izoid said:
I absolutely knew Christ as a Protestant. It has always been my desire to love Him fully.
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Is this “desire to love Him fully” something you had decided and willed on your own or do you think it was rather something given to you?
 
JC_Forgiven said:
Is this “desire to love Him fully” something you had decided and willed on your own or do you think it was rather something given to you?
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Thanks JC_Forgiven for your edifying and truthful postings. Please keep the others busy for the rest of the day by answering them on my behalf.
 
2nd_Adam said:
Sacred Tradition view only… 😃
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You really ought not be so dismissive of Sacred Tradition, Adam, for that was what gave you the entire canon of Scripture.

Unless you can provide us with a Scripture verse that tells us what’s inspired and what’s not?

Of course, it was Sacred Tradition–the oral teaching of the apostles and their successors–that gave us this canon of Scripture. You as a member of a “biblical Protestant church” ought to be very, very respectful of Sacred Tradition–or you have absolutely NO BOOK, NO REVELATION.

No Sacred Tradition, no Sacred Scripture. It’s that simple.
 
2nd_Adam said:
Back to work… I had to respond because Izoid derailed our thread… only God knows why he did this.
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LOL!! Again, absence of evidence is evidence that the post was false.

I think I’m going to have that phrase on my “cut” memory and save it for my queries to you!
 
JC_Forgiven said:
Is this “desire to love Him fully” something you had decided and willed on your own or do you think it was rather something given to you?
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Like most Catholic answers: it’s not either/or. It’s both/and.
 
izoid said:
I know of no protestant churches that view the Eucharist as the actual body and soul of Chris.
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The Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans and others that broke off closer to the “original tree trunk” of Catholicism all believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Except, sadly, they do not have it in their tabernacles. All it is is a wafer. :sad_yes:
 
JC_Forgiven said:
Tell us how you willed to “Love Jesus”. Where did it all begin?
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The metaphysical answer given to us by the great Catholic thinkers is that it all began, well, at the very beginning. When God spoke and thought the world into creation. When God loved us into existence. Eternally.

It also all began when my parents, by proxy, willled for me to become a child of God, it also began when I first discovered I had a will…it also began when I chose to receive him in the Eucharist, and began anew when I chose to return to him after I’ve sinned, and it begins anew at the Divine Liturgy, and it begins again when I read his Word and it begins again when I love my husband in the most SUBLIME way, becoming an ICON of the Divine Union of the Marriage Feast…
 
2nd_Adam said:
🙂

Here’s the slam dunk! :ballspin:

When did you become part of the bride of Christ, when you were united to Christ by faith as a Protestant, or when you became an official member of the Catholic Church?
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Not so much, protestants are imperfectly joined to the body of Christ through the Catholic Church 🙂
 
crazzeto said:
Not so much, protestants are imperfectly joined to the body of Christ through the Catholic Church 🙂
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Protestants are perfectly joined to the body of Christ through the Spirit of Christ because Jesus is completely sufficient for us in our eternal union with Him. We have great assurance that we are adopted children of God which makeup the universal body of Christ (bride of Christ). Our boasting is not in ourselves, but our boasting is in God in what He has done for us in and through Jesus Christ.

:gopray::knight1::slapfight: :blackeye::hug1::harp:
 
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