The theory of evolution: how do you explain dog breeds?

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Of course it explains how one species can evolve into another. It’s the exact same process. Just give it more time.
In fact, because they reproduce so quickly and we can see many generations in a short period of time, we have observed new species of bacteria emerge. We have seen it. It’s empirical fact.

It grieves me that souls are turned off from the faith because they perceive that Christians deny 100% accepted science demonstrated again and again beyond any reasonable doubt. The Popes get that and have since the 50s…
 
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buffalo said:
Totally wrong. Dogs when selective breeding stops will return to wolves.
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I don’t know what you mean by “selective breeding.” If you mean that poodles continue to mate only with poodles, then no, they will not become wolves, unless they are put in a wild environment where they would not survive as poodles. Then they would either die out completely, or evolve (very slowly) into something entirely different.
In fact, the breeders are acknowledging they are at a breeding dead end.
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Not true. New breeds can still be created at the same rate that they always have been created. However the incentive for humans to select for different characteristics has to be there or else the breeds will pretty much stay the way they are, since they are already well-suited to their very domesticated environment.
 
kgmlg said:
Alright….granted that some of the species evolved into something else in this planet….naturally. I do not think dogs are in this category. 😄

With regards to dogs, it is more of selective breeding rather than evolution.
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But that is exactly what evolution is - selective breeding. The only difference is whether the selection is natural or artificial. But the effect on the organism is the same: evolution.
Evolution, I think, is the adaptation of the species to something radical. Ex. animals get smaller because of shortage of food…
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The only reason this happens is that the larger versions of the species are not as successful in breeding because they starve to death before they can breed, i.e. evolution.
 
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People , dogs did not descend from wolves. The premise here is wrong if that’s your argument, or that to indiscriminately breed dogs will turn them back into wolves
 
I don’t have to explain anything.
People have been breeding various animals for preferred traits for many years.
It neither proves nor disproves natural evolution.
(But for the record, I have no problem with the idea of macro evolution)
 
Maximilian75 said:
The thing is, perhaps Genesis isin’t meant to be read literally
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Gee, I wish God made it clear when He inspired those authors. Maybe some footnotes would have helped.

This one is not literal - God
This one is literal - God
This is poetry - God
This is figurative - God
This is parable - God (Oh wait, when it was parable He told us so)
 
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The Holy Spirit made it clear through the Magisterium that the first 11 chapters of Genesis need not be taken in a fundamentalist reading
 
Salmonslayer said:
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that genesis can’t be 100% literal when it has the day and night and plants made before the sun.
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God is light. Then God created the great lights to rule the seasons etc…
 
Roseeurekacross said:
The Holy Spirit made it clear through the Magisterium that the first 11 chapters of Genesis need not be taken in a fundamentalist reading
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What about the first people who taught it? There was no Magisterium then. The Holy Spirit changed His mind?
 
Dog breeds don’t contradict evolution - they evidence it.

The only difference is that the “pressures” that encourage different traits in dog breeds are artificial and imposed by people.

Natural traits, on the other hand, are the result of natural pressures.

Why would someone think the existence of dog breeds somehow disproves evolution???
 
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I do not agree.

Evolution is when one day, a child is born without the characteristics of its parents. Example, an elefant born without tusks, when both its parents are “normal”.

Or if one fish is born able to breathe on land, when its parents couldn’t.

Selective breading is getting what is considered the best genes from your parents. This is not evolution, its just promulgation of the species.

(According to me anyway……)
 
Heard of DNA?

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buffalo said:
What about the first people who taught it? There was no Magisterium then. The Holy Spirit changed His mind?
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Are you disagreeing with the Magisterium that we are free NOT to take the first 11 chapters of Genesis in a fundamentalist light?
 
buffalo said:
Yes, they did. They were domesticated and then bred.
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Where’s your proof?

It’s very easy to determine if there is wolf in a dog. I point you to the wolf dog hybrids that are bred in USA, and banned in some states.

@salmonslayer, there is nothing in that article that supports your hypothesis that dogs are descended from wolves. Is that what you are trying to prove?
Or are you discussing breeding different dog breeds. Ie GSD , heeler, kelpie, bulldog
 
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