All right; I thank you for your explanation. Yes, I know that Muslims have a high regard for Isa (just not calling him divine) and, as I have already written, almost as much respect as Catholics. As you have just implied, Jesus within Islam fulfils a role similar to that of Elijah though more important. However, why would Muslims believe that Jesus was of miraculous birth and that His Mother if He is not divine(i.e. the “Son of God” or another god whom is subordinate to Allah)? In addition, why would Jesus be a warrior at the time of al-Mahdi if he had not previously been so(of course, I am using the Christian idea of Him as a pacifist-“Whomever lives by the sword…”)? Forgive me.
Please tell us some of the titles of those books that you have read.
Do you think that your remark( red text) is very charitable?You always refused all athentic news as lies and always tried to prove that what you believe all are the truth.But specifically I do not condemn you,because I know almost all muslims think that all news sources are fake,all are the agents of kafirs, parts of the conspiracy of Kafirs,and their aim is to annihilate islam!So friendship if you really think that all news sources are preaching lies about islam and all are the part of jewish / christians conspiracy then how do you think that Christians can be you friends?If all news here christian posters provide are lies to you then what news would you believe?if all news will support you absurd claims will you believe them?
but we also have some priests who, instead of doing their “call” in upholding christian doctrines, are doing unchristian actions…and this is the REALITY even as of today… hence, some muslims and some christians are non-perfect believers who act in the name of religiousity, and not of faith and spirituality…people who put false appearances of virtue and faith!Yeah, of course muttawa is not islam, but muslims who happen to do their job in upholding the law of islam. I don’t think King was trying to defame Islam, he only told the reality in Islamic most “holy” state of SA…
As far I can remember, we were talking about the news and you quoted one of my post first that was related to the horrific news of SA!you have a very good point!
And if she puts me on ignore she will have very few left. I don’t think that is what she really wants.Quran says: “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him:” Be". And he was."(Quran3:59)
In shiah belief, Jesus and Mahdi and their friends don’t come for war, they’ll come for save the world but Dijjal(anti-christ) and Safiani and their dollower are criminal ones and they’ll kill many people before Mahdi and Jesus come. So the war on that time will a war for peace. In shiee belief people will have best condition of life on the time of Mhadi and Jesus.
1.Persian translation of Answering Islam(written by Norman Geisler & Abdul salib) This Book has 6 cantos and 2 addendums: 3 cantos about Islam and deny unitarianism of Islam and prophethoo of Prophet Muhammad and Quran. After that this book has 3 cantos about Bible, Jesus and trinity. and 2 addendums contains answering Muslims claims about Bible and Barnabas gospel. I answering this book here.
How did you justify to yourself following Mohammed after reading all that about Christianity? I mean I don’t say you should be a Christian or anything like that, but following the complete opposite of what Christianity teaches doesn’t make sense to me. Don’t start with the ‘Islam is peace and love’ stuff because you know that it doesn’t mean that at all and when Mohammed was in Medina he sentenced mankind to untold sufferings with the excuse that it was for Allah.
I study their books but many things they say aren’t acceptable for me. I have many disscussions with Iranian Christians and they Always ignore me in chats and delete my comments in their blogs!
Then why have the sects which have risen out of Shia regions which believe the Mahdi has come, always been so violent? I mean look at the Mahdist Revolt in Sudan at the end of the 19th century, the British didn’t even care about them until they murdered a diplomat, so you can’t say they were just defending themselves against Imperialists, which I know you like to do.
It is cause they just remember Mahdi when someone ingrate them! In our belief Mahdi will came to save people. Mahdi won’t come to kill people he will come only for fight with enemies of people: Dijjal & Safiani.
Exactly.Islam knows how to deceive people perfectly,and that’s why it has two types of verses.When they are weak then use meccan verses,and then when they are strong they use medinan verses.Like in Europe and USA ,muslims are using Meccan verses,but be sure friend,soon the median verses will appear when Muslims will be stronger.And I hope then the Christians of western country (who have extra charity or democracy)will realize the truth.So we should just wait and see the fall of rest of the Christian lands,like one day our christian ancestors lost middle east,specially constantinople. indeed muslims captured all lands in peaceful way.I was also upset about the future,but now i am not, because I realize that fate can’t be changed,and it is our fate that we will be fallen,and then when lovers(muslim conquerors) will slay us where ever they find us,then maybe merciful God will come for the 2nd time to save us.you have a very good point!
If friendship puts all the Christians on ignore she will then have me to deal with!
Here is something from Yahya bin Sharaf ad-Din an-Nawawi.
A quote from Yahya bin Sharaf ad-Din an-Nawawi, An-Nawawi’s Forty Hadiths, p. 16, accessed Aug. 1, 2009.
However interpreted, the standard view on Qur’anic abrogation concerning war and peace verses is that when Muslims are weak and in a minority position, they should preach and behave according to the ethos of the Meccan verses (peace and tolerance); when strong, however, they should go on the offensive on the basis of what is commanded in the Medinan verses (war and conquest). The vicissitudes of Islamic history are a testimony to this dichotomy, best captured by the popular Muslim notion, based on a hadith, that, if possible, jihad should be performed by the hand (force), if not, then by the tongue (through preaching); and, if that is not possible, then with the heart or one’s intentions.
It is what I have tried to say in other posts. She puts love down, and says ‘I love you’, and I don’t read too much from her about love. Deception and/or ignoring the violence towards others in Islam is the opposite of love. Doing nothing to change Islam and telling me that there is nothing wrong with Sharia laws is not loving either. Sharia laws are disasters of intolerance. It is obsessive compulsive, paranoid, and in many instances it allows Muslims to be judge jury and executioner. How loving is that? It usually is a matter of how fast they can execute and how they do it that is bothersome.