The Truth About Islam

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islam is no religion of peace, it is a religion of satan to destroy belief in the salvation won for us in Christ. Islam is pure wickedness and a lie from hell to try and steal the souls of christians.

because: Christ won our salvation and the devil got so mad that created an add on so that people would reject the salvation previously accepted. Islam is the work of the devil.
 
Sorry JC…I repeat my post…

If as Christians we believe that the Angel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would have the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The great I AM…then the angel that appeared to mohammad could not have been an angel of God. If he was…then our faith is in vain.

That doesn’t mean that there are not good muslim people…but they do not worship the one true God.
 
the bible clearly warned us before islam ever came upon this earth that the antichrist would come and it says clearly who that is:

“For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” 2 John 1:7
Flame thank you for posting from bibleNT. Does bible name Islam as anti-christ?? No.
Also,be careful about another advice of Jesus. he said, “many will come in my name, Be careful about them.” You should know that Muhammad came in the name of Allah, not in the name of Jesus.
Just try to think who came after Jesus using his name. There was only one person who came using the name of Jesus, that he had come from Jesus. That was the anti-christ… Do you know him?. He is very much in your bibleNT.
“and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.” 1 John 4:3
The above is another proof from me that Muhammad is not anti-christ. Muhammad said “Jesus was from God”. So please consider what you are saying.

Also, the words “anti-christ… is already in the world…” should tell you that Muhammad was not already there. But the real anti-christ who was teaching his own philosophy (greek type) against the real teachings of Jesus was very much active as a wolf amongst the poor Christian sheep. He devoured the whole lot of those sheep mercilessly very soon after Jesus left.
and to put it bluntly:
“Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist–he denies the Father and the Son.” 1 John 2:22
I agree with you 100%. Muhammad did not say Jesus is not the Christ. Muhammad believed in Jesus as the Messiah. Flame, you are firing some bent and bruised arrows on Muhammad. Please check your arrows before they boomerang upon you.
 
Sorry JC…I repeat my post…

If as Christians we believe that the Angel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would have the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The great I AM…then the angel that appeared to mohammad could not have been an angel of God. If he was…then our faith is in vain.

That doesn’t mean that there are not good muslim people…but they do not worship the one true God.
spn, there is only one God. You think you are holding on to the true God. But you are far from that. So, please do not be racist. Muslims believe in One God who revealed Himself to all nations of the world. First you admit that truth. Then you will be on a straight path. Until then you are nothing.
 
spn, there is only one God. You think you are holding on to the true God. But you are far from that. So, please **do ****not **be racist.
I’m not spn but I couldn’t resist answering this post:

I’m sorry, Moslims are a race? what? There are:

Huyger Moslims (Chinese)
Indonesian Moslims
Persian Moslims
Ayrab Moslims

and you’re saying all these together constitue a race? You need some education.
Muslims believe in One God who revealed Himself to all nations of the world. First you admit that truth.
And he revealed Himself by sending His Son Jesus. You know the truth about Jesus (God’s only begotten Son, who is Himself God) you’re just afraid to admit it. There’s always fear with Moslims…fear of this, fear of that…kind of makes one think what are they scared of ?!
Then you will be on a straight path.
Jesus is the straight path
Until then you are nothing.
says the person who thinks the Moslims are a race…ooh boy :rolleyes:
 
the bible clearly warned us before islam ever came upon this earth that the antichrist would come and it says clearly who that is:

“For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” 2 John 1:7

also

“and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.” 1 John 4:3

and to put it bluntly:

“Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist–he denies the Father and the Son.” 1 John 2:22

antichrist means that you work not for God but for satan.
Hi dear. You are talking me on the base of your bible, and this book is not authentic for us. It is not important what your book says. It is your book and confirm your claims, but it is full of mistakes and problems and can’t be God’s real word. discuss us with some think both we and you believe in that such as historic books or rational logics.

And your Bible took mistake about us. We love Jesus very much and we are not Anti-christ. If some they he comes and confirms us that he is the christ and says “I am God” absolutly we accept christianity.
 
Just to clarify, our battle is not so much against muslims, as it is against satan’s teachings that those poor people have been snared by.
Yeah, but some users fight to us!
to muslims: you are still in your sins, but Jesus can wash them all away. call out to him, He is Risen and waiting for you to ask him to forgive you.
We are discussing and do not allocutioning. You are not God to say who is in his/her sins. Our great God is very bountiful. He loves us and we love him. We talk with our dear God every day and every time. May he forgive our and your sins.
 
islam is no religion of peace, it is a religion of satan to destroy belief in the salvation won for us in Christ.
Who says it? you? Who are you to say witch relegion is true and witch is wrong? Do you think that you are God? These senteces are useful for christianity. Islam’s God never ordered to kill women, children and animals but Your God: "3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ " 1 samuel 15:3

I can claim like you: Christianity is no relegion of love, it is a relegion of satan to destroy belief in the destroy the salvation won for us in Christ and Muhammd.

Is it eanough to claim?
because: Christ won our salvation and the devil got so mad that created an add on so that people would reject the salvation previously accepted. Islam is the work of the devil.
Only your claims again. Christianity is the work of devil and christians follow devil’s orders and do sins and think God forgive them because of onother one’s death! It is Satan’s plan to make people to do sins and think God’ll forgive them automatically! Christians do every forbidden things whitch forbidden in the Bible and think they are real holies!

Wake up please, wake up before it be so late.
 
If it is enough to calim: The truth about Christianity in one sentence or less: Christianity is false.
With all due respect, you do realize that argumentation, which you’ve used ad nauseum all throughout this page, amounts to, “I know you are, but what am I?”, which doesn’t really answer anything.
 
Anyone know how this following compares with other groups?

What about the health of the non-muslim?

Constitutions
The Muslim Doctors and Dentisits Association UK (M.D.D.A. UK)
  1. Name
The name of the Association is Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association UK (the Association)
  1. Objects and powers
2.1 The objects of the association shall be:-
2.1.1. To advance the Islamic religion in the practice of medicine in the United Kingdom
2.1.2. To advance medical education in relation to the doctrines, practices and traditions of the Islamic religion.
2.1.3. To promote research in various aspects of medical science and to disseminate and publish the useful results of such research.
2.1.4. **To promote the preservation and protection of the good health of Muslims in the United Kingdom. **
2.2. In furtherance of such objects but not otherwise the Association may:
2.2.1. Serve as a forum of the exchange of ideas between Muslim Doctors and Dentists concerning matters relating to medical practice and ethics.
2.2.2. Establish contacts with other countries and exchange ideas with medical bodies in the United Kingdom or abroad on matters of mutual interest.
2.2.3 Purchase take on lease or in exchange hire or otherwise acquire any property and any rights and privileges necessary for the promotion of such objects and construct maintain and alter any buildings or erections necessary for the work of the Association:
2.2.3.1. Make regulations for any property which may be so acquired:
2.2.3.2 Subject to such consents as may be required by law sell let mortgage dispose of or turn to account all or any of the property or assets of the Association:
2.2.3.3 Subject to such consents as may be required by law accept gifts and borrow or raise money for such objects on such terms and on such security as shall be thought fit:
2.2.3.4 Procure contributions to the Association by personal or written appeals public meetings or otherwise:
2.2.3.5 Invest the money of the Association not immediately required for such objects in or on such investments securities or property as may be thought fit subject nevertheless to such conditions (if any) as may for the time being be imposed or required by law:
2.2.3.6 Do all such other lawful things as are necessary for to the attainment of such objects.
2.2.4. Employ and pay any person or persons to supervise organise and carry on the work of the Association and make all reasonable and necessary provision for the payment of pensions and superannuating to or on behalf of employees and their widows and other dependants:
2.2.5. Bring together in conference representatives of voluntary organisations government departments statutory authorities and individuals:
2.2.6. Promote and carry out or assist in promoting and carrying out research surveys and investigations and publish the useful results of such research surveys and investigations:
2.2.7. Arrange and provide for or join in arranging and providing for the holding of exhibitions meetings lectures classes seminars and training courses:
2.2.8. Collect and disseminate information on all matters affecting such objects and exchange such information with other bodies having similar objects whether in this country or overseas:
2.2.9. Undertake, execute, manage or assist any charitable trusts which may lawfully be undertaken, executed, managed or assisted by the Association
2.2.10. Procure to be written and print publish issue and circulate gratuitously or otherwise such papers books periodicals pamphlets or other documents or films or recorded tapes as shall further such objects;
 
spn, there is only one God. You think you are holding on to the true God. But you are far from that. So, please do not be racist. Muslims believe in One God who revealed Himself to all nations of the world. First you admit that truth. Then you will be on a straight path. Until then you are nothing.
Planten…don’t come on Catholic forum and tell us that Christianity is a lie!!! Take your beliefs to other muslims.
 
Quran contains what Jesus Christ and other prophets said but it doesn’t need say what Bible said. many things your prophets and Christ said but didn’t came in Bible and many sentences changed as we believe.
No it doesn’t. It isn’t even close to what the Bible says. I don’t even know how you can write this and actually think it is close to the truth.
 
Anyone know how this following compares with other groups?

What about the health of the non-muslim?

Constitutions
The Muslim Doctors and Dentisits Association UK (M.D.D.A. UK)
  1. Name
The name of the Association is Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association UK (the Association)
  1. Objects and powers
2.1 The objects of the association shall be:-
2.1.1. To advance the Islamic religion in the practice of medicine in the United Kingdom
2.1.2. To advance medical education in relation to the doctrines, practices and traditions of the Islamic religion.
2.1.3. To promote research in various aspects of medical science and to disseminate and publish the useful results of such research.
2.1.4. **To promote the preservation and protection of the good health of Muslims in the United Kingdom. **
2.2. In furtherance of such objects but not otherwise the Association may:
2.2.1. Serve as a forum of the exchange of ideas between Muslim Doctors and Dentists concerning matters relating to medical practice and ethics.
2.2.2. Establish contacts with other countries and exchange ideas with medical bodies in the United Kingdom or abroad on matters of mutual interest.
2.2.3 Purchase take on lease or in exchange hire or otherwise acquire any property and any rights and privileges necessary for the promotion of such objects and construct maintain and alter any buildings or erections necessary for the work of the Association:
2.2.3.1. Make regulations for any property which may be so acquired:
2.2.3.2 Subject to such consents as may be required by law sell let mortgage dispose of or turn to account all or any of the property or assets of the Association:
2.2.3.3 Subject to such consents as may be required by law accept gifts and borrow or raise money for such objects on such terms and on such security as shall be thought fit:
2.2.3.4 Procure contributions to the Association by personal or written appeals public meetings or otherwise:
2.2.3.5 Invest the money of the Association not immediately required for such objects in or on such investments securities or property as may be thought fit subject nevertheless to such conditions (if any) as may for the time being be imposed or required by law:
2.2.3.6 Do all such other lawful things as are necessary for to the attainment of such objects.
2.2.4. Employ and pay any person or persons to supervise organise and carry on the work of the Association and make all reasonable and necessary provision for the payment of pensions and superannuating to or on behalf of employees and their widows and other dependants:
2.2.5. Bring together in conference representatives of voluntary organisations government departments statutory authorities and individuals:
2.2.6. Promote and carry out or assist in promoting and carrying out research surveys and investigations and publish the useful results of such research surveys and investigations:
2.2.7. Arrange and provide for or join in arranging and providing for the holding of exhibitions meetings lectures classes seminars and training courses:
2.2.8. Collect and disseminate information on all matters affecting such objects and exchange such information with other bodies having similar objects whether in this country or overseas:
2.2.9. Undertake, execute, manage or assist any charitable trusts which may lawfully be undertaken, executed, managed or assisted by the Association
2.2.10. Procure to be written and print publish issue and circulate gratuitously or otherwise such papers books periodicals pamphlets or other documents or films or recorded tapes as shall further such objects;
I can’t tell you the comparison but I would like to comment on the audacity that they insert what they call a religion into something that they should not.

There is no concern for the health of the non-muslim once they start inserting Sharia laws. There is no concern if there are crimes against the non-muslim. In fact, in sharia laws they quite often tell the Muslim to wage Jihad against the non-Muslim in a violent way. There is no recognition of human rights in Muslim countries. There is no acknowledgement of the Geneva Convention types of rules and that is why they have no problem aiming for unarmed civilians, and use their own women and children as shields.

The only concern in Islam is to advance it. To make it a part of all of their (and or) lives, and yes that is what it says in their Sharia laws (o9). They work to subjugate us to it, or kill us if we disobey them and do not accept subjugation, or criticize it, or do other things to try to inhibit Islam.

Once they successfully get Sharia laws in place in more places the face of Islam changes to the (what I call) the ‘Medina face’. That face starts showing up more and more often while they work to get Sharia laws in place.

While no Muslim, or Muslim group, work to change Sharia laws they will continually tell us that they are about peace, that they do not like Sharia laws either, that they are the victims, that the violent Jihadists are misunderstanding Islam, that it is the fault of the Jews or they are poor, or we misunderstand, and it goes on.

Study the koran, their laws and history and you will know what Islam is all about: death, subjugation and slavery. Anything to advance Islam is considered good, anything that inhibits Islam is bad or evil. War is our fault because we are not accepting Islam.
 
Abraham said that when he didn’t need lie to save his life:

1And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar. 2And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah. 3But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man’s wife. 4But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, LORD, wilt thou slay also a righteous nation? 5Said he not unto me, She is my sister? and she, even she herself said, He is my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocency of my hands have I done this. 6And God said unto him in a dream, Yea,* I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her. 7Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine. 8Therefore Abimelech rose early in the morning, and called all his servants, and told all these things in their ears: and the men were sore afraid. 9Then Abimelech called Abraham, and said unto him, What hast thou done unto us? and what have I offended thee, that thou hast brought on me and on my kingdom a great sin? thou hast done deeds unto me that ought not to be done.** 10And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What sawest thou, that thou hast done this thing? 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife’s sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

He didn’t need lie for second time, cause he didn’t fear! If he lied in this condition so I’ll ask you: Why did God choose such a liar as a prophet?!

On the other hand this story is lllogical. Sarah on that time was 90 years old.(Genesis17:17) Whitch crazy one may kills someone for his 90-years old wife?!
Abraham went to Egypt many years before Issac was born(I do not remember if He met King Abimilech before or after Isaac’s birth), but anyway the Pharaoh’s desire for her may have been based more upon symbolism(e.g. saying Abraham was subject to him) than on physical attraction. In any case, she looked very youthful for her age(which is not unheard of- think of the actresses Jaclyn Smith or Sophia Loren, neither of whom seem to have underwent plastic surgery). I have all of the Book of Genesis, and I never remember Abraham stating that Sarah was literally his sister(to which chapter are you referring); was not her father Abraham’s brother Haran(thus making her his niece.)? Also, being a prophet certainly does not make you sinless.
 
This makes me feel a bit better, you just have to figure out which MD took or follows which ideals!!

The Oath of a Muslim Physician
Written by Islamic Medical Association of North America
Praise be to Allah (God), the Teacher, the Unique, Majesty of the heavens, the Exalted, the Glorious, Glory be to Him, the Eternal Being Who created the Universe and all the creatures within, and the only Being Who contained the infinity and the eternity. We serve no other god besides Thee and regard idolatry as an abominable injustice.
Give us the strength to be truthful, honest, modest, merciful and objective.
Give us the fortitude to admit our mistakes, to amend our ways and to forgive the wrongs of others.
Give us the wisdom to comfort and counsel all towards peace and harmony.
Give us the understanding that ours is a profession sacred that deals with your most precious gifts of life and intellect.
Therefore, make us worthy of this favoured station with honor, dignity and piety so that we may devote our lives in serving mankind, poor or rich, literate or illiterate, Muslim or non-Muslim, black or white with patience and tolerance with virtue and reverence, with knowledge and vigilance, with Thy love in our hearts and compassion for Thy servants, Thy most precious creation.
Hereby we take this oath in Thy name, the Creator of all the Heavens and the earth and follow Thy counsel as Thou has revealed to Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).
“Whoever killeth a human being, not in liew of another human being nor because of mischief on earth, it is as if he hath killed all mankind. And if he saveth a human life, he hath saved the life of all mankind.” (Qur’an V/35)

Does sharia law trump this oath?

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