The Truth About Islam

[friendship]

sure you will accept your own new version of “christianity” just as long as you can reject the christianity that Jesus came to bring. my whole point sir, is that the bible warned us ahead of time of this false teaching that you have accepted. The proof is, that Jesus is risen and he loves us!

I accepted the Islam and in Islam we believe that Jesus Christ will come back to earth and fight to enemies of God.

if you tell Jesu sthat you are sorry for your sins, he will forgive you, because he was sent to forgive the sins of the whole world. Do you know that Jesus isyour only hope of salvatioin? call out to him friendship!

I don’t need Jesus or Muhammad forgive me. They are not God and God only one who forgives for people. Muhammad and Jesus just can ask him to forgive us and can’t forgive any one except his/her sins be about them.

And Jesus is a part of salvation and is not all of it.

 

[friendship]

I know that you are in your sins! Thsi is because no one has their sins taken away but through the Son of God who died to take away the sins of the world. You are walking in life with all of your sins still unforgiven. Call upon Jesus , He has power to forgive your sins and set you free from them.

You know? Who are you? The god or his angel? How can you talk about other’s sins? I don’t whitch God you talking about, But the God I know him, forgive our sins when we apologize and our trying atone. He is not out father, he is our greatest love. He is the real love. He is our soul mate. How can we leave love and get the lie claims about fatherhood? No, he never asked us to call him father.

You are walking in your life with your great sins and they are blasphemies that you belive in them.

Quran answers you: Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? (Quran2:44)

 

[friendship]

I find it an ironic argument to make, given the number of times I’ve seen Muslims here quote atheist or agnostic scholars such as Bart Ehrmann to prove Islam. On the other hand, no one has cited staffsgt7 to prove their point, he’s simply posting here and debating Muslims of his own free will.

And yes, that is an insult. I believe it’s also a logical fallacy known as an ad hominem.

It is not. Your quotes is a fallacy known as “It is fallacy”. Flame of Christ asked me to accept his relegion and I don’t think it was a fallacy and not “ad hominem”.

Be carefull, It is not a “ad hominem”:
A:Why Allah orderd to fight with enemies?
B: It is reason is the reason whitch Jahoveh in Bible ordered to fight enemies for that.

B’s answer is logical true. We in persian cal it Jadali and I don’t know it’s meaning in English.

Ad hominem is attacking others in discussion.

 

[Young_Thinker]

Before meeting the king Abimilech he said that Sarah is 90 years old.

Yes some women may in old ages be like young women but they can’t be realy a 20 years old girl. Absolutly a young girl is more artractive.

And we didn’t talk about sotries. I just tries to show how are prophet of Bible and how is Muhammad.

About being sinless, I think we must talk in another place or in private messages, But a prophet doesn’t must be a liar. How can people believe what a liar says?

Thank you.

 

[friendship]

I’ll come back next friday to contiue discussion.

 

[Vile_Servant]

But a prophet doesn’t must be a liar. How can people believe what a liar says?

The prophet Muhammad said, “Hell will be empty one day and the morning breeze will rattle (swing to and fro) the open doors of empty hell.”

Quran 72:23
Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! **his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever. **

Is Hell eternal or not? Are we to believe the prophet Muhammed or the Quran?

Blessings and peace.

 

[Maria65]

You know? Who are you? The god or his angel? How can you talk about other’s sins? I don’t whitch God you talking about, But the God I know him, forgive our sins when we apologize and our trying atone. He is not out father, he is our greatest love. He is the real love. He is our soul mate. How can we leave love and get the lie claims about fatherhood? No, he never asked us to call him father.

You are walking in your life with your great sins and they are blasphemies that you belive in them.

Quran answers you: Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? (Quran2:44)

You really have a lot of nerve, coming on a Catholic forum and telling Catholics that our religion is blasphemy.

Hello? Moderators?

 

[friendship]

The prophet Muhammad said, “Hell will be empty one day and the morning breeze will rattle (swing to and fro) the open doors of empty hell.”

Quran 72:23
Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! **his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever. **

Is Hell eternal or not? Are we to believe the prophet Muhammed or the Quran?

Blessings and peace.

Your quote from prophet Muhammad had no refrences. In addition many hadithes are qouted from prophet Muhammad are not trustworthy. So there are no contra.

 

[friendship]

You really have a lot of nerve, coming on a Catholic forum and telling Catholics that our religion is blasphemy.

Hello? Moderators?

Huh, you have a lot of nerve. You want me to accept what you are saying and don’t let me say my idea. You ever want moderators to stop me!!!

 

[RastaFari]

The rasta man has been stepping back from this topic… There is alot of people here, who is saying that everything that they dont belive is completley and totally wrong…

Don’t judge, or you be judged yourself.

Only god can judge,

YOu think that you walk on the only rightous path~??

Re: The Truth About Islam
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Originally Posted by Maria65
You really have a lot of nerve, coming on a Catholic forum and telling Catholics that our religion is blasphemy.

Hello? Moderators?

How can u ask a moderator to delete anything “anti-catholic”. The internet is one of the best means for freedom of speech, in my opinion this is a truely great thing…

What you guys also have to realise, is that attack on your beliefs should strengthen them, not weaken…

Stay Positive.

Selassie I

 

[mary1173]

What is bad in using “darling”? may you explain me? my English is not good. I never want displease you my dear.

When people come to these forums it is the polite thing to do in calling them by their screen names. Calling someone that you do not know in our country darling makes that person uncomfortable. To say the least. And it is proper manners for you to say that you want to be someones friend. Not that you love someone. Even if you hold them in high regards and have the uttmost respect for them. I’m sure you will figure these things out as you go along.
I believe you when you say that Bin Laden and the Muslims from the wahhna—spelling… the sect that Bin Laden is from are not true to the Qu’ran. I believe there are good Muslims as well as those who wish to do harm. If it is not in your heart or mind to kill, you won’t kill. Perverted versions of ‘‘christianity’’ such as the ‘‘Davidian Compound’’ in Wako Texas formed by a pervert named David Koresh came about because he was a crazy person who thought that it was ok to harm women and hold them prisoner and rape them to produce his followers Who perverted the teachings of the Bible in every way imagineable. But because the Bible is a compilation of what went before any of us were around. it is easy to get sidetracked in the milieu of things that can be misunderstood.
Multiple marriages were common in some tribes in Israel, and the Middle East It is stated as such in the Bible many times over before Jesus’ birth in the New Testament. And even afterwards. I digress] The whole point I am trying to make is that according to the legal age of adulthood marriages are based in other cultures, and rules we use do not apply in your country’s situation. Nor do your laws apply in our country. When a girl can menstruate in some instances she is of legal age to be married…Lest we forget that Mary who bore Jesus was only 13. And beginning menstruation. By our laws in America this would be considered a man of 30 something, Joseph, marrying a child. And by the belief in the Qu’ran Joseph would be considered a rapist in our society, because he was 30 something and Mary was 1/2 his age.and was carrying Jesus in her womb.
These are the differences in the laws that have evolved throughout history and through the Bible as well. And the difference in that we believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and the Qu’ran calling him a prophet because he was in human form, is the difference in our religions. { BOY did I ever get SIDETRACKED! ] It is polite to use our screen names and we would prefer it if you did. No hard feelings? Not offended?

 

[Young_Thinker]

When people come to these forums it is the polite thing to do in calling them by their screen names. Calling someone that you do not know in our country darling makes that person uncomfortable. To say the least. And it is proper manners for you to say that you want to be someones friend. Not that you love someone. Even if you hold them in high regards and have the uttmost respect for them. I’m sure you will figure these things out as you go along.
I believe you when you say that Bin Laden and the Muslims from the wahhna—spelling… the sect that Bin Laden is from are not true to the Qu’ran. I believe there are good Muslims as well as those who wish to do harm. If it is not in your heart or mind to kill, you won’t kill. Perverted versions of ‘‘christianity’’ such as the ‘‘Davidian Compound’’ in Wako Texas formed by a pervert named David Koresh came about because he was a crazy person who thought that it was ok to harm women and hold them prisoner and rape them to produce his followers Who perverted the teachings of the Bible in every way imagineable. But because the Bible is a compilation of what went before any of us were around. it is easy to get sidetracked in the milieu of things that can be misunderstood.
Multiple marriages were common in some tribes in Israel, and the Middle East It is stated as such in the Bible many times over before Jesus’ birth in the New Testament. And even afterwards. I digress] The whole point I am trying to make is that according to the legal age of adulthood marriages are based in other cultures, and rules we use do not apply in your country’s situation. Nor do your laws apply in our country. When a girl can menstruate in some instances she is of legal age to be married…Lest we forget that Mary who bore Jesus was only 13. And beginning menstruation. By our laws in America this would be considered a man of 30 something, Joseph, marrying a child. And by the belief in the Qu’ran Joseph would be considered a rapist in our society, because he was 30 something and Mary was 1/2 his age.and was carrying Jesus in her womb.
These are the differences in the laws that have evolved throughout history and through the Bible as well. And the difference in that we believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and the Qu’ran calling him a prophet because he was in human form, is the difference in our religions. { BOY did I ever get SIDETRACKED! ] It is polite to use our screen names and we would prefer it if you did. No hard feelings? Not offended?

Now, please do not be petty(concerning Friendship’s addressals; they are certainly not ill-intentioned).

 

[spn82756]

You really have a lot of nerve, coming on a Catholic forum and telling Catholics that our religion is blasphemy.

Hello? Moderators?

I “screamed” the same thing before and have gotten nowhere. It looks as though you’ve succeded!

 

[Maria65]

The rasta man has been stepping back from this topic… There is alot of people here, who is saying that everything that they dont belive is completley and totally wrong…

Don’t judge, or you be judged yourself.

Only god can judge,

YOu think that you walk on the only rightous path~??

How can u ask a moderator to delete anything “anti-catholic”. The internet is one of the best means for freedom of speech, in my opinion this is a truely great thing…

What you guys also have to realise, is that attack on your beliefs should strengthen them, not weaken…

Stay Positive.

Selassie I

With all due respect, I do not ask the moderators to delete anything and everything that is “anti-Catholic.” But this is a Catholic forum, and, although persons of other faiths, or no faith at all, are certainly welcome, they are asked to be respectful of the Catholic faith when they visit here, because this is a Catholic forum. From the forum rules:

Non-Catholics are welcome to participate but must be respectful of the faith of the Catholics participating on the board.

How far do you think I would get if I went to a Muslim board and said, “Islam is blasphemy!”

Since you are somewhat new to CAF, you may not have read a lot of Friendship’s posts. She repeatedly tells others what they can and cannot say and can and cannot talk about. This is not her forum. I got tired of her tactics and the “blasphemy” accusation was what pushed me over the edge.

The “judge not, lest ye be judged” does not mean we cannot notice the wrong that others do. We’ve just not supposed to be hypocrites about it. What we are not supposed to judge is the state of someone’s soul, or whether we think they are going to heaven or hell. I did not do that. I made no judgments about Friendship herself, only about her behavior on this forum.

Yes, I think the Catholic Church is the “right” way. If I didn’t I, I wouldn’t be Catholic.

Peace.

 

[Young_Thinker]

If Friendship has been banned permanently, I am going to miss her in this forum. She kept our discussions about Islam alive.

 

[mary1173]

This is something Friendship should talk to the priests about teaching us in these forums. So that no one goes over the edge and fights with ather person of another religion. There is an easier way to do this other than fighting and provoking one another.

Peace

 

[Young_Thinker]

This is something Friendship should talk to the priests about teaching us in these forums. So that no one goes over the edge and fights with ather person of another religion. There is an easier way to do this other than fighting and provoking one another.

Peace

I know. I have a rather similar problem with anti-Catholic relatives.

 

[mary1173]

Now, please do not be petty(concerning Friendship’s addressals; they are certainly not ill-intentioned).

This is true, of some things, but it is proper until someone writes their name in the bottom of their reply to use common curtousy to not call them darling or dear. If that person does mind the term dear or darling, then corrections should be made to call them what is pleasing to them.
Peace

 

[Young_Thinker]

This is true, of some things, but it is proper until someone writes their name in the bottom of their reply to use common curtousy to not call them darling or dear. If that person does mind the term dear or darling, then corrections should be made to call them what is pleasing to them.
Peace

All right.

 

[rikkk1958]

This is something Friendship should talk to the priests about teaching us in these forums. So that no one goes over the edge and fights with ather person of another religion. There is an easier way to do this other than fighting and provoking one another.

Peace

I agree with you and the easiest way I guess is to let them understand what is the truth through this forum. I am one of the believers who follows what the scriptures say because that is what our faith is all about. To spread the truth to those who are misled.