The Truth About Islam

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Young_Thinker said:
Planten, where are you?
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Dear Young Thinker, Friendship had come from Iran with Love. It was a rare gift. I miss that Friendship very much. For a long time, I did not know that Friendship was banned. I only hope that ban was not forever.

But it appears that Friendship may have left us permanently.
 
planten said:
Dear Young Thinker, Friendship had come from Iran with Love. It was a rare gift. I miss that Friendship very much. For a long time, I did not know that Friendship was banned. I only hope that ban was not forever.

But it appears that Friendship may have left us permanently.
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Thank you.
 
morning_star777 said:
Perhaps only you were jinn.Or hey buddy are you still one of them?:rolleyes:I am curious!
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morning_star, welcome, curious star, There is plenty of man and Jinn (Ins wa Al Jinn) in the Quran, i.e. about the local as well foriegn people, i.e. the sons of the soil and outsiders. If any one wants to find out about the Jinn,he/she must read the Quran.

Quran tells us that Iron was melted at the hands of King David. Quran tells us that King Soloman had many Jinn working under his command, some of them were making large pots for cooking and others were making castles and palaces and underwater works (fountains).

The Jinn were employed in the building of the Great Temple at Jerusalem. The king Soloman died just before that temple was completed. But there was no official announcement (gazette) of the death of King Soloman. The Jinn who had the contract to serve the king Soloman had to keep on working until the Temple was completed.

There are many interesting useful items described in the Quran. But the language of the Quran is high level. Example: The melting of Iron in teh hands of King David did not mean that iron was melted in his hands. It means that Iron industry was there in the time of King Soloman and he made good use of it. It means there were furnaces and Iron was being produced.
 
planten said:
morning_star, welcome, curious star, There is plenty of man and Jinn (Ins wa Al Jinn) in the Quran, i.e. about the local as well foriegn people, i.e. the sons of the soil and outsiders. If any one wants to find out about the Jinn,he/she must read the Quran.

Quran tells us that Iron was melted at the hands of King David. Quran tells us that King Soloman had many Jinn working under his command, some of them were making large pots for cooking and others were making castles and palaces and underwater works (fountains).

The Jinn were employed in the building of the Great Temple at Jerusalem. The king Soloman died just before that temple was completed. But there was no official announcement (gazette) of the death of King Soloman. The Jinn who had the contract to serve the king Soloman had to keep on working until the Temple was completed.

There are many interesting useful items described in the Quran. But the language of the Quran is high level. Example: The melting of Iron in teh hands of King David did not mean that iron was melted in his hands. It means that Iron industry was there in the time of King Soloman and he made good use of it. It means there were furnaces and Iron was being produced.
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I do think that in this way Islam is making King Solomon and all the Israelite at that time as pagan as it’s surrounding by stating that they were helped by the jinn …! What’s the difference of Solomon and the pagan ancestors of local Indonesian who were told in the mythology to have asked an army of jinn/invisible creatures to help build a big boat that suddenly became a mountain (which is amazingly does look like a boat)?

I think this sort of thinking which amazingly still occupies many muslims I know, are though hilarious, but more likely rather pathetic!
 
And all along I thought it was the evil Paul of Tarsus, et al, who corrupted the Bible.
 
Does that mean Solomon getting the help from the invisible world aka jinn, is still not considered sin in Islam? I supposed the bible had been very clear about not engaging your self with this kind of practice.🤷

To Planten
does it mean that taking example from Solomon, muslims are not considered wrong to have worked together with this unseen world to gain wealth, prospective husband/wive, fame, etc…etc…?
 
Islam, while having some very deep flaws, is meant to be a peaceful religion. If Islam is a violent religion and the Quran teaches violence, then why does it have this verse in it?

“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:32]
 
Holly3278 said:
Islam, while having some very deep flaws, is meant to be a peaceful religion. If Islam is a violent religion and the Quran teaches violence, then why does it have this verse in it?

“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:32]
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well, then murder should be rewarded by another murder…seems it won’t give an end to vendetta or any other clash, especially when people would never accepted the blame…🤷

And btw, who will determine the kind of “mischief”? That will also bring the never ending slaying of people if someone’s not satisfy with something or somebody…🤷
 
That was a very good post (#939) from Holly (The Budhist). But still some catholics cannot see the reality. They are protesting about Islam. I find no reason for their complaints. Praise is for the Holly.
 
By “very good point”, Planten, do you mean “point that agrees with my own biases”? Because I sometimes find Muslims here to raise very good points even if I don’t necessarily agree with them, and I am wondering given your posting style if you could ever see yourself doing the same.
 
planten said:
That was a very good post (#939) from Holly (The Budhist). But still some catholics cannot see the reality. They are protesting about Islam. I find no reason for their complaints. Praise is for the Holly.
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Holly’s point is a good one.
But have there been any Muslim Imams who have preached violence?
 
As the jews of medina said plainly

Mohammed is a king, not a prophet.
 
I’ve heard Muslims say Mohammad was created from light or is light ie “Nur”. But at the same time didn’t Mohammad say “I’m just a man”. Did Mohammad ever say that he was “light”?

MJ
 
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